Fuel tax up ANOTHER 2p in the Budget

Well here we go again, more price increases, what a suprise not!
Maybee, just maybee if we stopped paying out for every person who claims asylum, if we stropped paying out family tax credits and lowered prices so that families could live on what they earn, if we stopped paying out for every person who does not work because they choose not to, we stopped paying out to every so called single mother who decides her child does not need a father in its life, and all other minority groups who just so have to be supported because of PC and finaly learnt to ignore those who are brain washed by so called green issues ( I note they are on here using electricity and batteries to use their computers that have been made in power hungry, poluting factories) Then maybe we would not need to keep punishing the motorist who is just trying to scrape a living. The only consulation that I can get, is that even those on here who here that keep banging on about "green" also get hit by this when they to have to buy food that has increased in price because of the deisel prices rising.

well now,as fuel costs creep up yet again and the motorist gets another kick in the plums,whilst i see comments like "britain leads the world in green issues"and the cost of living climbs steadly upwards,it would appear the only thing britain leads the world in is politicial idiocy,unemployment,and apathy,
its time to stand up demand an election and tell those idiots in charge where to go,now!.
p.s.
how about someone making up some"b,ugger off brown"and"not tonight darling" fuel price protest stickers.

here is your answer to congestion,remove all bus's and wagons from city centers during peak traffic.
i live in edinburgh and all the causes of stand still traffic are bus taxi lorry and roadworks(second national pastime in scotland after drinking)god help us when the massivly overbudgeted tram system gets finished-belive last tram system was ripped out coz it was non effective.
ah well give me a nice 4.2 v8 it annoys tree hugging hippys,also shouldnt we be charging cyclists for using OUR roads or just run em over mmmm last one sounds like a plan to me

A few years ago the Farmers and Truckers were picketing the oil refineries as a protest against the price of fuel, at a time when diesel was only 80p a litre, Strangely they are very quiet now.......Has the government done a secret deal with them do you think???? Perhaps someone could tell us??
As for the Greens, I don't believe a word of this global warming nonsense!!!Neither do many high ranking and knowledgeable scientists, strangely there is never a public airing of this view,either on the TV, especially the BBC. could that be a ploy for the government to prise more cash out of the motorists??

Just heard this a.m that the Price of of a Barrel of oil is $70 Dollars, the Head of OPEC says that the price "is just about right"!!?

Why the hell is it then that i am paying £1.06p a litre for unleaded!!?? That was trhe sort of price being payed when oil was selling for $150plus a barrel a few months ago!!
...and NO ONE in Britain bats an eyelid about this it seems!! We are seen as sheep needing to be sheared, because we want to be sheep - We are silent when our Gov and the Oil Producer Corporates fleece us!!

Surely if the tax on super unleaded was dropped the surplus shifted to standard unleaded then more vehicle users would use super unleaded thus being more green and lower emissions. Then the government still cash in on large amounts of tax. The environment has a reduction in CO2 and we get cheaper fuel......everyones a winner

With regard to Ferdinands comments about 4x4's and supercars. It is people like Ferdinand who have a very limited thought process and are on exactly the same plane as Brown and Darling. I have a 4x4 and a Supercar, Porsche. For the past 5 years I have travelled no more than 500 miles per year in the Porsche and probably only 1000 miles in the 4x4 to take my boat to Wales each year. Driven carefully they can both do 25 to the gallon! How does that compare to say a Ford Ka driven heavily by say a young lad doing a similar mpg yet probably covering 30k miles per annum. It is the DRIVER not the car, as please dont assume that every one who has a Supercar or 4x4 fits your profile.

Am i missing the point or did we all sign up to petrolprices.com because we were promised a fuel discount card a very long time ago? The premise was simple, brand loyalty for a discounted price. What ever happened to that idea i wonder? I also wonder how much Fubra Ltd (petrolprices) has made from selling off our contact details?

What about the further 2.5% in January when the Vat goes back up or even 3% if the Chancellor needs the money. Also what is driving up the price fuel at the moment? In some cases petrol is dearer than diesel.

As at 28th June,

Can someone please explain why my local supermarket (and this is fast becoming the norm) is charging 101.9 for u/l and 100.9 for derv when a matter of 3-4 months ago, derv was 12 ppl more expensive?

PS - I'm not looking for any 'smart alec' comments along the lines of 'you should have bought a derv vehicle', just a straight answer.

Signed

Feeling 'ripped off' of Bath.

It is absolutely scandalous, it is not so bad for those that live in the city or big towns with good alternative forms of transport, but for people like me who live in the middle of nowhere it is a killer of the wage! I live nearly 7 miles away from my nearest town it would cost me over £15 a trip for me and my family to travel there! And live nearly 11 miles from my nearest major town! Cityites and townies who have these alternative forms of transport should have to pay more for their fuel, and country folk like us who live in the sticks should have to pay less!
POST CODE PRICES FOR PETROL NOW!!!!

Lets face it...Gordon Brown you are F******G C*CK!!!Get the f*ck out of number 10 with your botty-jockey friend...the other C*CK...Darling...robbing b*stards the lot of you...you f*ckin rob our money for your own person pleasure and luxury and expect us to accept your theft in taxes...get out Labour Bottyjockeys.If we did what you have done...which is THEFT BY DECEPTION,we would be arrested...processed and given a nice criminal record...and lose our job.....what makes you BOTTY-JOCKEYS think you should not get the same treatment

I think Ferdinand Green (if that is his name) should realise, as we all do, that increasing fuel duty puts up the price of food and everything else. The increase is always passed on to the consumer.

Stuppid fellow Mr Green

It's noticed that some garages are putting up fuel off their own bat.
These greedy swines should be blacked immediatly.

Unleaded at Tesco: 100.9p
Diesel: 101.9p



WONDER HOW MUCH IT'LL BE IN 50 YEARS

Hi everybody and an extra special hi to Steve M.
These blogs have been quiet of late.
Whilst I've been away enjoying the peace and beauty of Wales's smallest city (St Davids) I've taken to reading quite a few of the daily newspapers
though,quite how some of them warrant the title "news" is a mystery to me.
Take for instance one of today's national papers:-
The "news" item in today's Sun appeared on page 2,
"Beer tax shocker." Brits pay MORE tax on beer than almost any other country in Europe. (Steve M this is your field of expertise).
So we pay one of the highest rates of duty on alcohol AND fuel.
It has often been suggested through these blogs that these taxes are to fund the "benefit" claimants, which appears to be correct, however, it's not the benefits handled by the DWP that are in question it's more the M.P's allowances (you can paint them however many colours you like) they're still benefits and the fuel and alcohol taxes raised in this years budget will be used to fund the allowances and whatever replaces them, a point intimated by Mandy Owen in #79.I like the way she thinks.
Many of the newspapers are telling us to vote for ??????? or ??????? but to be honest "thick as thieves" springs to mind it really is a choice between a rock and a hard place.
I'm wondering if these pages have become quiet for fear of being monitored
but have to say that as far as I know free speech hasn't yet been abolished in this country, and your opinions should be given without fear of recriminations and remember that if anyone is upset by the content then could it simply be that the truth hurts.
Finishing on a lighter note, have you ever been asked a simple question that you just couldn't answer? well;
My wife said to me the other day whilst filling in a form "Adrian, what's today's date"? Well I couldn't think (stupid isn't it) but in a spark of ingenuity
I said "have a look at that newspaper on the floor" which she did and promptly replied "that's no good, it's yesterdays" Bless her.

RE 77

HEIDI MARSHALL

Thank for letting me know your father Adrian is well.

He has become a good friend and I sincerely miss the jokes, banter and his unique dry wit.

Please let Adrian know I think of him and look forward to breaking bread together again in the near future.

Kind regards, Steve M.

@82.

At 90p a litre you would not have any petrol stations in 6months.

People keep on about $147 back in July and how its $60 now so should it be half?

In Feb09 is was around $35, polesign was around 87-89ppl
It has now doubled to $65 so we should be at £1.60ppl using the same reasoning?

Yet todays average price is 99.9 according to this site!

The reason being is that the oil cost is only a small piece of the polsesign price.

The largest factor contributing to the price is duty+vat, hence this thread.

Prices are up yet again this week. They range from 96.99p to 99.99p for regular unleaded in my area. They managed to keep diesel a bit lower, narrowing the gap with unleaded from 10p/litre to approx 4p/litre.

Just a few months ago they were back down to 82.9....it's a disgrace!
I know the dollar exchange hasn't been great recently, but the business rate is now up to $1.61/£ & oil prices are $65 a barrel way down on $147 last July.

In the current economic climate. if the oil companies don't start bringing prices down to something sensible ie less than 90p, action should be taken by blockading the refineries....which is best done in the summer months.
Hopefully this will also stop the government adding 2p in September and remove the 2p increase when VAT goes back up to 17.5% at the end of the year!

The % of the price which is actually the cost per barrell is a lot smaller than what is tax.

Oil was $35 in february, its now doubled to $65 yet the polesign price has not doubled.

Try to understand what makes the biggest difference to the price.

with oil at $60 per barrel, why is unleaded petrol sitting at around £1 per litre. When oil was $150 a barrel petrol was "only" £1.25 a litre. This is just profiteering and even the supermarkets are engaged n it. I know the "real" price for comparison is aroun 98p but even so it still shows the British motorist is feeding the greed of the oil companies and supermarkets.

Anyone got plans for a new action campaign?

The pound broke through the $1.60 mark for the first time in almost seven months on Wednesday.
Oil bought in dollars so more oil per pound.
Someone once said somewhere on these blogs that "when the pound is weak against the dollar that's the claimed reason our fuel goes up" he/she also said that the same excuse is used when the pound is strong against the dollar
i.e "when the pound is strong, that's the claimed reason our fuel goes up"
Heads they win, tails we lose.
When the MP's expenses fiasco has run it's course they'll award themselves pay increases of 100% to cover the loss of the expenses so if you think 2 pence a litre is a lot now, just wait and see, it'll go up 5 pence a litre or more
to cover their increased pay rewards. (not awards).

So the duty is going up because of the falling fuel price but IT'S NOT FALLING !

The duty is going up because Brown and his clowns have ruined the country and wasted billions proping up the EU.

re 44 Steve M,
Thank you for your kind thoughts of our dad.
Mum & dad are currently staying at our 2nd home in St Davids West Wales,
and mum has forbidden any internet access down there as dad has to rest
as much as he can and I'll be going down to fetch them after the Spring bank holiday when dad will be going in for his by-pass op.
We've been surprisingly very busy at work this past 6 weeks and our web browsing has been very limited, hence the late reply to you Steve M.

Though as we were growing up we wanted for nothing, dad always taught
us the value of thrift and his shrewd business practices ensured that he did "fix the roof while the sun was shining" and this has helped us immensely in the current economic circumstances and one of dad's favourite sayings is
"before you ask the price of something you must first determine its value".

I can't stop long but one thing that I have noticed is now that the pound is gaining ground against the Dollar and the Euro our fuel is still going up in price and our customers are pushing hard for a freeze or reduction in
transport costs and we have to oblige, the balancing act is finely tuned
but we are lucky of the company's roots.
Could someone explain the dollar/euro exchange rate and the reason for fuel increases in a not too long winded way.
Will look in for replies, and thanks again Steve M .

With the elections looming.............there is only one way to change this never ending, somewhat boring, cycle of never ending motorist bashing:

VOTE THEM OUT.

Don't vote Tory, Don't vote Labour, Don't vote Liberal............for once vote for something completely different, it's the only way things will change.

As for #1 comment - I am guessing you belong to the now shrinking minority that is the climate change lobby ??

UP 2p a litre - if only!!

On 1st April petrol was 91.9 *after* the 2p duty rise. Now its 96.9 with no significant increase in oil price and the pound actually strengthing against the dollar. So thats another 5p a litre the oil companies have stolen from my pocket!!

I realise this blog is a bit old now and passed the original point, but isn't it rich ................ we're taxed upto the hilt to bail out incompetent bankers, and now the very people who make the laws in this country are getting caught one after the other with their "Snouts in the Trough" claiming expenses for non-existent mortgages, dog food, cleaning out the moats of their private mansions, bookcases ........................ "Swipe Me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" what's next.

In a deep recession, with everyone hurting financially, our own BL00DY POLITICIANS instead of setting an example in these austere times are shafting us !!!!!!!!!

I have decided to sign on the dole.
I will work for cash.
I will claim housing benefit for a house not bearing my name on the rent book.
I will claim incapacity benefit.
I will claim for children who do not live with me or are not even mine.
I will claim for a blue badge, and get one.
I will take DSS loans without ever intending to pay the back.
Or I might just become a politician.
If I get caught, I will say "sorry, but I will pay some of it back"
Either way the benefits far outweigh the punishments.
Tax, tax, tax. Fuel will have to rise to pay for all this.
This country has literally gone tits up.

Sound the alarm!

The oil price is up at around $59.50 a barrel (for WTI) today 12th May. It's risen from $34 in February.

Some relief ought to feed through to us as the £ is up against the $ from $1.38 to $1.53 to the £ now. BUT with the aggressive pump pricing we are experiencing from our UK petrol retailers we could well be in for further sharp petrol and diesel price rises on the forecourts.

Should we now love and hug our politicos (each side of the Atlantic) and get them to rile against the sp1vs and speculators who are again hiking the oil price on the markets (and locally at the filling stations)?

Remember it was the same sort of sp1vs and city sl1ckers who contributed so much to creating the global Banking Fiasco that we are all continuing to suffer from.

MESSRS BROWN & DARLING,

Currently a gallon of gasoline in the USA is about $2;00 a gallon, admitedly a US Gallon is slightly smaller than an Imperial Gallon (about 4 litres) but at the current rate of exchange, we are paying approximately $7:00 for an Imperial Gallon(about 4.5 litres).

If the US economy can show signs of recovery without "Ripping Off" the motorist, what are you two clowns playing at??????

"Oil prices closed at a near six-month high yesterday (Thursday) and have continued higher this morning amid increased hopes for US economic recovery , which might pave the way for a rebound in oil consumption," said Sucden analyst Nimit Khamar.

Get ready here come the price hikes, economic recovery (albeit in the US) = dearer consumer items ..... who's gonna get reamed ...... AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!

Petrol up another 1p today whats a matter with the people in this country they will stand for anything France has got the right idea

Oil prices jump above $57 jumping bigtime now more money for the wankers

now 100.9 now 94.9

SEPT 102.9 SEPT 96.9

APR 10 103.9 APR 10 97.9

APR 11 104.9 APR 11 98.9

APR 12 105.9 APR 12 99.9

APR 13 106.9 APR 13 100.9

Let's face facts; this financial fiasco is a result of fighting other people's wars, and bailing out a failed banking system; whilst paying HUGE "Golden Handshakes" to corrupt CEO's who should be behind bars rather than sunning themselves on Caribbean beaches.

Why is it the working classes are the ones who get reamed for the mistakes of our so called peers?

#64

Far too simplistic.

You didn't notice oil at near $150/barrel last year then as an example?

I'll be investing my money thanks - waste of time leaving it on deposit at the banks.

BTW, cost price of Derv fell below unleaded today. Both taxed the same in the UK. It's just marketing keeping the differentials.

Ocd 58
You save your money.
This recession started with bankers.
Perhaps you are a banker Ocd.

60,62. Roundabouts and swings I'm afraid.

Petrol cars use more fuel than diesel, giving out around 10% more carbon dioxide (CO2).

Diesel cars use less fuel than petrol cars, so give out less CO2. Direct-injection diesel engines give the best fuel economy.

LPG gives off lower toxic emissions than Diesel and pre Euro IV petrol engines, but fuel consumption is worse.

Because diesel produces less CO2 (THE greenhouse gas) than petrol it SHOULD be cheaper but, as it produces more toxic particles the balance is equalised and therefore should cost the same as petrol. Roundabouts & swings.
As more and more people turn to diesel for economic reasons it becomes an obvious target for "greenies" to push for higher fuel duty.

Re 61,

Ouch! I seem to have hit a raw nerve.

I was simply asking for an explanation.

PS - if you think diesels are more environmentally friendly, try going out for a cycle ride on a main road and taking a breath, while there are a few about, new and old.

@60.
Why are you complaining?
Do you drive a petrol car and hate the thought of the dieselies getting a bit back?
You weren't shouting very loud when the difference WAS 12 pence per ltr in the petrolies favour.

Why has the differential between diesel and regular unleaded gone from approx. 12 ppl 3 months ago to approx. 6 ppl now?

Petrol Tax tax and more tax. Come on Darling, Sweetheart, there must be other ways the rank and file can be ripped off. You could tax our swimming pools and luxury homes.

#55 #56 #57

This appears more confused.

Who are the "big" countries?

Is tax revenue only for "failed bankers"?

Why not nuclear power for electricity?

Sorry SoN, nothing you (or #55 or #57) have said puts anything into perspective. Are you Tony Blair - encourage everyone to borrow more, spend more and line the supplier shareholder pockets for no good reason? Consume, consume consume.............

Sorry, your idea doesn't work. Everything is finite. Nothing personal, but your idea to encourage spending seems very misguided. You just want to pass wealth from individuals to corporations and their shareholders. At this time we should be demanding that 'our' money (tax) is put to use for ther benefit of our country. For example, we should be supporting the banking system to protect our savings (savers outnumber borrows seven to one).

£8 per year is nothing to anyone in the UK.

How can coal provide electricity when there isn't any coal?

What is the "feel good factor" and why is spending money a good thing? Isn't saving money a good thing? Why does the SoN want us to use more of everything - presumably he is a tax collector as his names implies!

Re 56:-
This will be infinitesimal compared to the amount pumped into the atmosphere by the big countries in the coming months.

Exactly my point, raising fuel duty has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with raising revenue for failed bankers etc.

Mandy Owen (53) tells us how carbon will reduce by 0.5% over a year in this country. Wow. This will be infinitesimal compared to the amount pumped into the atmosphere by the big countries in the coming months.
Steve M (55) has pointed out how coal power "the dirtiest" will provide electricity in the future.
Kind of puts things into perspective eh, Ocd.
The tax on fuel to encourage less use, which drives up costs in every place you spend, which in turn equates less money on the streets.
By reducing tax on fuel the confidence and feel good factor come into play while bringing down costs at shops and encouraging spending.
The talk of a 2% rise in domestic electricity bills is the golden carrot to sell the idea. Then the real tax will be introduced.
Smart turn-around by a government committed to saving the planet.

hi,

re 54.
"the position is that we use more of a declining resource"
Is this "we" as in this country or worldwide?
"Would burning more coal help?"
Answer is, we are planning to burn more coal anyway. (BUT isn't coal a declining resource?)
Guardian April 23 '09
Demanding carbon capture and storage (CCS) on all new coal plants is expected to cost around £1bn for each plant and *increase energy bills.* Government and energy companies are in talks over how these will be funded but it is expected to come from a levy on all fossil fuel electricity generation in Britain. This could put 2%, or roughly £8 per household a year, on a consumer's electricity bills by 2020. Other funding alternatives being considered are to pay the energy companies according to how much carbon they store underground.
This is expected to become a global industry in the next 50 years as countries commit to reducing carbon emissions to combat global warming.
**Coal is the dirtiest of fossil fuels but provides at least one-third of the world's electricity.**
What do you think is the best way forward?
Also, just how much 'waste' can be stored underground?
What are the long term effects of such direct action on soil, rocks and sea life?

#52

But how does using more fossil fuels "lift this country from recession"? Sorry to ask for further clarification. Would burning more coal help?

#53

I think the RAC is more about motoring than the environment so perhaps no surprise? I think the Government's need for more revenue is hardly a revelation?

In summary, the position is that we use more of a declining resource (and therefore increase it's price) to get out of recession and pay less tax to Government so that they have less money. The producers have more money and our Government has less.

Apologies for being dense but I am back to wondering how this helps me. I was thinking that if our Government had a greater share of the money and the producers less then perhaps we could support ourselves better. Are we better off supporting the oil producing nations before ourselves SoN?

Maybe not so clear after all?

The budget report describes fuel duty as key tool in reducing carbon dioxide emissions, because it encourages people to drive less. However, the report also states that the latest fuel duty increases will cut UK emissions by about 0.5% a year. The RAC Foundation said the figures proved that the fuel duty increase, which will raise an estimated £1.2m a day from petrol sales alone, is "almost explicitly to raise more revenue

YES YES YES.
At last, you understand part of the equation Ocd.
Reduce tax on fuel and help lift this country from recession.

#50

OK SoN, reduce taxes and encourage greater usage of fossil fuels is the way forward.

Now I understand. Thanks.