22.08.06 I'd take the train if....

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Should we re-nationalise the railways?

.... if it ran on time.
.... it was 24 hour.
.... stations had more shops and lighting.
.... they replaced old signalling so they can run more trains.
.... you could always get a seat.
.... they had oyster cards outside London.
.... it wasn't so expensive!
.... there was a computer system in all stations for everyone to use to help plan their route to anywhere in the UK.


That's my wish list. What would it take to get you out of your car? Is there nothing that could persuade you? Let us know by adding your comments.

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All i wish is that they didn't have the airconditioning on full blast on the new trains even in the winter

Posted by Power Station, 22nd August 2006 2:04pm

We should be so lucky to have a train service in our part of the world!!
What we really need is a fully integrated low cost transport service that properly & fully coordinates travel between buses and trains etc with more of a local feel about it.
As ever cost comes into the equation but governments only think short term - a year or so ahead to the next election. Why not get an all party consensus on the issue and do the electorate a big favour by getting something right for once.
Then I might be tempted.

Posted by Alan Sargent, 22nd August 2006 3:49pm

How well nationalisation started out and how quickly it declined - while governments use cash for 'quangoes' and refuse to consult those who are at the nitty gritty end of public services - not just transport - we don't stand a chance. The waste of tax payers cash is one of the criminal activities which will never be stamped out.

Posted by Eleanor Davies, 22nd August 2006 5:18pm

... if it ran to my front door
... if there was a removal of annoyances (screaming babies etc.)
... if it played my music selection
... if it dropped you off just outside your location (work, bank etc.)

Posted by Add Palmer, 23rd August 2006 9:28am

I'd use the train for work but, unfortunately, I work 35 miles from home, and the nearest train station to work is 2½ miles away, with no bus service. As such, I'd still have to get a taxi, which would defeat the object somewhat!

Posted by Mat Quinn, 23rd August 2006 2:43pm

It did not charge rip-off prices for fares and refeshments.

Posted by Kurt Rosenfeld, 23rd August 2006 2:48pm

They hadn't ripped up the tracks 40 years ago! I could had gone too and from work every day by train if the track was still there, and I love trains - much more than having to drive every day.

Posted by Jake, 23rd August 2006 3:02pm

It takes me around 1 hour and 10 minutes to drive to work - 47 miles away, costs around £9 per day in fuel and I can listen in peace to Terry Wogan. On a nice day I can put the roof down and blow away my cobwebs.

If I wanted to use public transport it would involve driving to the train station(because the local bus doesn't start until 8:15) then taking 2 trains, with at least a 10 minute wait on a cold, grubby platform between trains. The first train (beacuse I have actually tried this!!) gets so busy people are squeezed up beside you and you are forced to listen to the strange noises emanating from their ipods (and them!) - a total cost of around £11 + over 2 hours in time - oh the joys!

If I used the bus I would have to drive to the bus station (where there isn't any parking anyway) pay to park somewhere else and walk back to the bus station then sit on the bus for 2 hours!! I have absolutely no idea how much that costs because I have never tried it.

So, why do I not use public transport??? Any ideas?

Posted by Angela Bruce, 23rd August 2006 3:07pm

I go to London on the train every day, usually on time with air con in summer and heating in winter and all this from c2c which was, for decades, known as "the misery line". Some new signalling, track, trains and a management team who react quickly to any problems - you never got this with British Rail!!! It may have taken c2c (formerly LTS) a long time to achieve this, but they did. However, not all train lines are as good as ours and need a lot of investment and work. I was particularly astonished when the local bus company ceased to run buses from my station once the line had been upgraded! One company moves forward and the others all go backwards. Why can't they work together?!

Posted by Janet Bangs, 23rd August 2006 3:10pm

The tocket struture is byzantine. It is poissible to exploit this but it takes time. e.g. travel to intermediate station on 1 ticket and onto to final destination with another all bought at the same time. Dodging peak rates by buying a ticket to a station that you arrive at outide the peak time and then a cheaper ticket from there onwards. I think ticket pricing should be simplified. There is also a deliberate policy of charging many hundreds of pounds for a walk and use fare which in my view is a rip off

Posted by Blair Breton, 23rd August 2006 3:17pm

I used to use the train to commute between Taunton and Bristol and was forced to go back to using my car. In the first year of using the train I was late 13 times for work, and the number of trains that were on time on the way home could be counted on one hand. On top of which I could actually drive there quicker anyway! I also regard the fact that the train companies charge up to twice as much to travel during peak times as extortion, half the time in the mornings I just could not get a seat. The rail service in the UK is outdated, unreliable, slow, untimely and just plain crap. I don't know why anyone in their right mind would use them!

Posted by John Beardon, 23rd August 2006 3:17pm

I would take the train to commute to work if one were to be allowed to take one's bicycle on to rush hour trains. My house is a 35 minute walk from the station and there is an unreliable bus service between the two, and my office is a further 20 minutes once I arrive at my destination town, with no bus service to my office. If I could take my bicycle on to the trains I would be delighted. It takes me 40 minutes to drive to work, door to door, so being able to use my bicycle would mean I could achieve a similar journey time using the train. Were I to walk or get the bus to and from stations, my journey time would be significantly increased.

Posted by Steven Burns, 23rd August 2006 3:22pm

I would take the train to commute to work if one were to be allowed to take one's bicycle on to rush hour trains. My house is a 35 minute walk from the station and there is an unreliable bus service between the two, and my office is a further 20 minutes once I arrive at my destination town, with no bus service to my office. If I could take my bicycle on to the trains I would be delighted. It takes me 40 minutes to drive to work, door to door, so being able to use my bicycle would mean I could achieve a similar journey time using the train. Were I to walk or get the bus to and from stations, my journey time would be significantly increased.

Posted by Steven Burns, 23rd August 2006 3:22pm

Fully agree with EVERYTHING already said by Alan Sargent!

Posted by Angelika Dowds, 23rd August 2006 3:25pm

It is too dangerous to travel on a train - I feel safe in my car. The Government should look to address this asap.

Posted by Paula, 23rd August 2006 3:28pm

I have never had the cause to complain about a train being too cold because air conditioning is on!
You'd be lucky if the train has air conditioning or any form of adequate ventillation for the amount of 'Cattle' per carriage.
The Metropolitan line trains do tend to have heaters on in the summer, which is good considering the summertime temperatures on the underground.

24 hour operation and better security for passengers is essential. The punishment for Hooded Hooligans who assault people on our trains is not harsh enough by a long stretch.

It would be very interesting to see how quickly the transport system was improved if all MP's had to use public transport.

Posted by Rhubarb, 23rd August 2006 3:42pm

I would like to take my father (aged 83) and his friend to a war museum in Malton, nr York called Eden Camp. However, the cost of train fares from where I live is, in total, for 3 cheap day returns, £108. I think this is outrageous. To go by car would be much easier but the journey involves the M62 most of the way which is usually busy all day. I don't particulary want my father and friend to be stuck in traffick for hours on end. The train journey would be brilliant - some of the scenery in Yorkshire is breathtaking.

Posted by Eva Hale, 23rd August 2006 3:43pm

They made it free, or reduced, for EVERYONE in full-time education. I can't afford to go by train.

Posted by James Hamilton, 23rd August 2006 3:45pm

If the trains where clean safe and you could get a seat for the price of youre ticket.
In reality if I go to London from Birmingham by train and back there is the melle for a seat you end up next to a walking hygiene problem who insists on playing their i-pod full blast or shouting down a mobile phone to their mates all through the journey.
The ticket prices are also not attractive considering no seat assured in the price

Posted by Pete W, 23rd August 2006 3:52pm

I would take the train when;
It goes to every place i visit for work.
Picks me up from my front door and drops me off at the same.
Is as comfortable as my car.
Pays the tax I have to pay for my company car.

LETS BE REALISTIC - NOBODY WILL USE THE TRAINS WHEN THEY ARE SO EXPENSIVE ! ! !

Posted by Iain Campbell, 23rd August 2006 3:53pm

All forms of public transport need some form of subsidy to make them affordable. It is no use telling us to reduce the ozone layer when there are no buses and trains in places we want them. Most people who work shifts outside the major cities have no option other than to travel by car as there are no alternatives at unsocial hours.

Posted by Clive Smith, 23rd August 2006 3:55pm

All the above plus....

.... If people took showers everyday
.... If there was a bus service that ran in conjuction with the train schedule
.... If for the annual cost of £1500 I could actually get a seat*
.... If my ticket was actually checked, and people were actually punished for fare avaision.
.... If stations were adequately staffed - why do staff disappear when there are delays?

* Off peak at 1/3rd less?? I can guarantee a seat. How is that fair?

Posted by A J Marshall, 23rd August 2006 3:57pm

All the above plus....

.... If people took showers everyday
.... If there was a bus service that ran in conjuction with the train schedule
.... If for the annual cost of £1500 I could actually get a seat*
.... If my ticket was actually checked, and people were actually punished for fare avaision.
.... If stations were adequately staffed - why do staff disappear when there are delays?

* Off peak at 1/3rd less?? I can guarantee a seat. How is that fair?

Posted by A J Marshall, 23rd August 2006 4:00pm

Trains - what are trains? - are they those 4 carriage long things that run very occasionally on rails? those things that rely only on good weather and the generosity of the staff to keep them on time. These things are a luxury to those who can afford it. Why spend nearly £80 a week on train fare when a weeks petrol cost on average £30 - especially noting the fact that a car can get you from home to work and back again in a quarter of the time it takes a train (considering the waiting times etc) and a car can get you from door to door - a train cannot. Bring back the transport services of the 50's where buses came along every 5 mins or so and were reasonably priced. I would willingly leave my car at home if this was to happen

Posted by Dave King, 23rd August 2006 4:04pm

Journey to work by car: 30 minutes, £5 petrol per day
Journey to work by train: 2 hours, 1 change, £43 per day

Posted by Helen Young, 23rd August 2006 4:08pm

I'm in agreement with everyone here - the trains in the UK are too expensive! I travelled in Holland a lot last year and found the whole experience of travelling by train there such an improvement on what I experience here. They run on time, the connections are better, they are nowhere near as crowded (some are double decker) and they are so much cheaper! I used to pay about 25 Euros for a 3 hour journey - the equivalent distance here would cost approximately £60 I would imagine. My boyfriend (Dutch) at the time got FREE travel from Monday to Friday as he was a student and got discounted travel on the weekends. If traveling with him, I also got a discount on my ticket - I think it was a third off. If they can do it, why can't we???

Posted by Hannah Shanks, 23rd August 2006 4:09pm

If they were like Swiss trains - on a recent trip to Lucerne the latest we left any of the intermediate stations was....4 seconds. I know this because of the on-board computer screen in each carriage. Clean, not expensive, can cope with leaves, snow and heat. French trains are very good too. Can it be that difficult to get it right???

Posted by C Wyatt, 23rd August 2006 4:11pm

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I drive to work (LPG powered car) total cost is £6. Time to get to work is about 50minutes.

If I were to use public transport, I would need a bus to the train station £2.50 cost taking about 40minutes. Then a train, £12 return ticket. Then another bus £2.50 cost another 30minutes to get within walking distance to my office, then a 10minute walk!

Driving to the train station is an option that would take 20minutes but cost £5.50 in parking fees all day, assuming I could get a space!

Total public transport cost >£15
Total driving cost £6

Id rather not goto work than spend countless depressing hours on public transport, perhaps I could try it for a month then get signed off with clinical depression.... lol

Posted by Neil Cumming, 23rd August 2006 4:30pm

Having spent the last year commuting four and a half hours each day to London at a cost of nearly £4,500, I've quit a well paid job because the rail network is:

expensive
inflexible
over populated
dirty and (occasionally) dangerous

Give me my car back anytime !

Posted by S Taylor, 23rd August 2006 4:33pm

Having spent the last year commuting four and a half hours each day to London at a cost of nearly £4,500, I've quit a well paid job because the rail network is:

expensive
inflexible
over populated
dirty and (occasionally) dangerous

Give me my car back anytime !

Posted by S Taylor, 23rd August 2006 4:34pm

I drive over 300 miles per week to work and back and before anyone say's move closer to work my wife works as well so either way one of us would be driving . The Goverment want to put in this road charge or Black box in our cars so they charge us for their incompetency.They say use public Transport that never runs on time so that means if it was so i would have to be up at 02:00 to get a Bus that would not be running , then a Train then another 3 buses and vice versa so i would not be in till 22:00 .It is about time they were voted out and a Working man took their place who knows what it is like to rely on his car to get to work , not a Chauffer driven Limo paid for by us!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Darren Davis, 23rd August 2006 4:46pm

Paula said "It is too dangerous to travel on a train - I feel safe in my car", which is unfortunately a common misconception. The reality is actually the opposite, you are actually at much more risk in your car than on a train.

Posted by Brian Gooch, 23rd August 2006 4:57pm

As a founder member of the ABE club (Anywhere But Egland) I am voting with my feet. I have sold my house and moving instead toCrete where there are no trains at all and no rush to get anywhere!

Posted by Dave Wood, 23rd August 2006 5:08pm

I would take the train if myself and my partner didn't have disabilities. We need the car for mobility and it can be very dangerous on the train. We have changed our vehicle to a smaller vehicle and maybe in the future we will look to getting a 'greener' car. I cannot be fairer than that

Posted by Christine Lynch, 23rd August 2006 5:13pm

I would if I could walk as far as the nearest bus/ train station.
I have a disability and struggle to walk even quite short distances at times.
nearest bus stop half a mile, nearest train station 12 miles.
My partner works 12 miles from home and as my son's school is a mile from home we run two cars as it costs us less to do that than for me to take him to work and back every day and use just the one car!!!

Posted by Louise Coates, 23rd August 2006 5:14pm

It's clear that most people here (and I'd say that we are a reasonable representation of the public at large) see the benefits of using public transport. However, we are collectively unwilling to give up our cars until a good alternative in terms of cost and time taken to make our journeys is provided.

The trouble is, even though the givernment is surely aware of this disquiet amongst the motoring public, they are either unwilling or unable to do anything to make realistic alternatives available. Probably unwilling because hitting motorists in the wallet is an easy revenue generator for a government unable to balance it's books!!

Posted by Paul Hartley, 23rd August 2006 5:19pm

On the couple of occasions I have tried to use the train, the first time my train was cancelled and it meant a booked seat was no longer available and a rush across London to attend a meeting. The second time the train to Manchester left on time but on the journey home broke down or had a braking problem so the journey took longer than it would have by car. They need to run on time regularly and fares must be competitive. I have travelled by train in France and they have always run on time and the fares were reasonable.

Posted by Pat Bradbury, 23rd August 2006 6:05pm

If my journey to work wasn't under 10 miles, would take not much longer than driving and didn't involve a change of trains!

Posted by Phil Stubbington, 23rd August 2006 6:07pm

If trains didn't go from where you are not, to where you do not want to be

Posted by Caroline King-cherne, 23rd August 2006 6:23pm

I used the train which was the mega train from Waterloo which was £4.60 to Bournemouth. It left late because one of the public noticed the last five carriages were not coupled. I was in the last five so would have been a little annoyed and the rain staff were runing round lilke headless chickens. I was mean to arrive back in Bournemouth at 11.22 but due to other diversions arrived 12.40.
The previous time I used the train was a return from Bournemouth which was fine going to London, but on my return due to not enough carriages, spent until the last three stains standing. Would I use the train again?
No!
I have had enough of this damn nany state and looking at other places to live.

Posted by Dave Stone, 23rd August 2006 6:52pm

I used to commute between Stirling and Edinburgh. The train journey would take on average just over a hour in the morning, if it wasn't late or cancelled. If the train was cancelled it was always the four carridge train that was cancelled so you had to get the next train which was a two carridge train, I'll let you work out the maths, but sardines didn't have a look in! On the return journey it was the same story, get there early for the train journey home, find out what platform the train is leaving from, sit on the train, make the mistake of getting comfy, two minutes before the train is due to leave, hear the tannoy "This train is now not going to Stirling blah blah blah, the train to Stirling is now on the opposite side of the station." Run with all the other passengers across Waverly and get on the already packed train!!!! Get half way home, pull out of Polmont train station approx three hundred metres and sit there for 2 1/2 hours. Finally get home 3 to 4 hours later (a journy of roughly 40 miles). Now I once again work in Edinburgh and I DRIVE, it takes me half an hour, I'm not crushed, late, waiting for ages, buying season tickets, sitting in other peoples mess and all the other negitives that come with using the trains. Petrol prices maybe on the rise, but every time fuel prices go up i don't have to worry that my train ticket is going up by XX%.

Posted by Stuart Baker, 23rd August 2006 6:56pm

When tried, I have to say my train service is poor. As a Manager, the number of staff blaming trains for being late to work is atrocious - If only 50% were telling the truth it would still be unacceptable service from the railways

Posted by Andrew Humphrey, 23rd August 2006 6:57pm

I do actually take the train quite a lot. I travel to London four or five times a month and am in the fortunate positon of being both over 60 and within the Greater London area. So I get the Freedom pass giving me free travel on trains, underground and buses. I can also usually travel out of rush hours.

I live in Surbiton and find that bus services are frequent, as are the trains to Waterloo. Also by using online timetables you can easily plan your journeys (if you wish), so I have no complaints.

I still use the car though for journeys out of town or to places less well served by public transport.

I feel we complain a lot about our public transport, but when you consider the recent tragic train crash in Egypt, we are better of than some - not that there isn't room for improvement though!

Posted by Alan Forrest, 23rd August 2006 7:05pm

Has anyone had the misfortune to use the Heathrow Express, nice train but very expensive for what it is. A 15 minute journey single £14.50, return £27. As you can see nearly £1 a minute, if I paid those prices for using my car,it would cost me over £300 per week to commute to work and back.



Posted by Stuart Baker, 23rd August 2006 7:06pm

I avoid the train as I pay a huge sum of money for a seat that is not available and I feel like I am squashed in a cattle truck.
I drive to London and catch the tube into the city.

Posted by Helen Carter, 23rd August 2006 7:13pm

I went the Rollings Stones concert at Twickerham stadium last night. My friend and I decided that the best way to get there would be to use the train.
Luckily South West trains have replaced their dreadfully old (50yr+) slam door trains so the ride was pretty good. We left early to get there well before the start of the concert. We also left from EARLEY Station, (this is important) you will see in a minute. We arrived at Twickerham around 2.00pm. great no big crowds pubs fairly empty.
The concert was brilliant!!!, it finished at 11.00pm. Getting out of Twickenham was a nightmare, imagine 55,000 people leaving at the same time. Obviously not everybody wanted to use the reaging train to get home , but it was a nightmare and it took 45 mins to get to the train. This is the good bit remember we left from EARLEY station therefore on the journey home we would want to get off at EARLEY. But for some god forsaken reason on the journey home the train did not stop a EARLEY. The announcement in the train kept saying if you needed anything speak to the on board rail person. Thia person must have been a virtual human being because we could not see him. Anyway we ended up in Reading at 12.35 too late for a train back to EARLEY. Refused to pay the double bubble charge for a taxi, therefor we took the good old bus (they ran til 1.30in the morning) Unfortunately the nearest the bus could get either me friend or myself from our homes incurred for both of us a 2mile walk at 1.00 in the morning. Whats the logic in that !!!!!!!We should have had word with Mick Jagger, he might have put us up in his house in Richmond. We could have remembered together when they started off their career in the Ricky Tick club in Windsor when my friend and I enjoyed their music in 1963....Those were the Days..............

Posted by Douglas A Steadman, 23rd August 2006 7:14pm

and parking was FREE, then the commuters wouldnt park outside residents houses,or supermarket car parks

Posted by Ron Martin, 23rd August 2006 7:15pm

Nothing would convince me to take the train. I'd have to wait for a bus to get to the nearest station then wait for a train to get into the city then get another bus to work - all of which would annoy me, take ages, cost a fortune and mean budging up for some fat bloke and his broadsheet to take up as much room as humanly possible. Let them do what they want to insurance, road tolls, petrol etc. I'm sticking with the car!

Posted by Billy Steele, 23rd August 2006 7:17pm

Our railway system is a national disaster. Trains are vastly overpriced, operate to central hub locations only, often involve many changes, run at wierd times, all adding up to a complete lack of investment in what once ran like capillaries across this nation. Years ago, the equivalent of thousands of miles of train-tracks running between towns and villages servicing plentiful small rail-links were ripped up and covered with tarmac to give us the "freedom" of the road. That freedom works well if you've got a country the size of France or Germany, where space isn't at a premium, but our overcrowded island is badly designed to support a network of motorways. It's worth noting that every example of privatisation of rail services throughout history has shown that involving private enterprise is a complete disaster - as proven when the US rail system was divided and sold off to private tycoons in the 1910s. Back then, only the wealthy US citizens were targetted as valid customers, which is an interesting point, isn't it? As for Britain in the 21st Century, the government is willing to tax drivers through fuel duties, car tax, insurance tax, and also capitalise on speeding camera fines, but how much of that £38 billion per year is spent on our roads and creating a modern integrated transport system? We're lucky to see even £2 billion of it spent on the roads, while the other £36 billion goes into supplying bombs for our troops Afghanistan or hiring spin-doctors to dig some politician out of a public scandal. I'd happily give up my car and go by public transport if it was plentiful, cheap and available. Once again, another example of British incompetence and mismanagement at the national government level. If private industrial directors ran their companies as poorly as the government runs our transport system, they'd be prosecuted and struck off the company register.

Posted by Quentin Jendrzewski, 23rd August 2006 7:23pm

I started to take the train when - amazingly - our local line was re-opened. For the first two journeys, no-one appeared to sell us a ticket so the journey was free. On the next journey (a 30 minute trip) we arrived 45 minutes late, missing our appointment, and on my last attempt, around lunchtime on a Saturday, I was kicked on the knee by a drunken yob and am still hobbling. So I won't be bothering again. A real shame. I would gladly use a reliable, safe service.

Posted by Penn Kerr, 23rd August 2006 7:32pm

I have lived and used trains in Germany that, despite higher wages, are less expensive than the UK. Also they manage to syncronise all their public transport systems.

Here in the UK you have to add at least £5.00 to any train price for the privilage of parking your car neer the station.

But remember, you don't have to vote for the clowns that are ultimately responsible for UK transport policies but as long as you do, please don't complain too lowdly!

Posted by Ron From Cumbria, 23rd August 2006 7:33pm

I can't remember the last time I went on a train in this country, although this year I had the pleasure of Swiss trains like a previous person on this Blog. If this country ran trains like the Swiss, I am sure they would be used more often. Children under 16 go free in Switzerland and because we have travelled to Switzerland before we are upgraded to 1st class at no extra cost. That was travelling with Swiss travel by the way.

My daughter has just gone to London using" One" trains from East Anglia and I booked her tickets in advance on line and I managed to get the return ticket for £10 return. I have yet to hear what the trains were like as she hasn't returned yet. I will let you know!

Posted by Jo Sweetman, 23rd August 2006 7:52pm

Where's my comment gone ???

Posted by Douglas A Steadman, 23rd August 2006 7:56pm

Hi

I live in rural Scotland, if I want to travel into Aberdeen, Inverness or even use the town service bus, the times are hopeless, an hour + to wait to go either to Aberdeen or Inverness.
And I am unable to get to Aberdeen or Inverness in time for my shifts at 7.30 in the morning.
The local town service bus does not leave till 9 am. So I need my car to get to my work, and be there in time. If I did not have my car, I would be late!!!

Posted by Anne, 23rd August 2006 7:59pm

I'd be delighted to use trains if I could afford them, but as it's usually an early start or a last-minute job that necessitates a journey for which a train is actually a possibility, I rarely find a Leeds-London ticket for less than £50. Yes, it's fine if you can plan 3 months in advance and only want to travel mid-morning in either direction, but otherwise you're out of luck, and if you want to come home on a Sunday, you've had it unless you're a millionaire.
A weekend break in London? No chance!

Posted by Pam Wilson, 23rd August 2006 8:06pm

No one has mentioned folding bikes. I found the combination of a Brompton folding bike and the train meant I could commute to work in less time than it took by car and I could listen to Radio 4 and read my book at the same time!

Posted by Kay Watts, 23rd August 2006 8:18pm

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In the country the station is too far away, the trains or busses dont go to where you want to get to or at the time you wish to go.

Posted by Ken Jones, 23rd August 2006 8:20pm

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Antiquated trains and high cost train fares do not mix. Trains do not run on time, are smelly and above all why should I be expected to travel in a train that packs people in like sardines + be expected to pay for the unpleasant experience. Why are there fewer carriages at rush hour then there is off peak? We are all aware that our english weather is very unpredictable then why are we expected to encounter delayed or worse still cancelled trains due to - rain; leaves on lines; snow etc. Why are they never equipped for every eventuality? What happened to girl guides and boy scouts phrase "Be prepared". May be we should all get together and refuse to pay the train fares. Then, just may be we will be listened to.
Its about time we were able to exercise our rights to freedom of speech and government to listen to us as a nation. I am sure if Tony Blair or John Prescott's only form of travel was by train, the service would run like a dream and be as plush as a Jaguar without polluting the atmosphere as much as the Jag does.....Just a thought! ..........So, the car I shall continue to use until they upgrade the trains put more carriages on at Peak times; provide 24 hour service and make our journey's safe including well lit stations and surrounding areas and, a comfortable journey at cheaper rates which would be possible as more people would use the service.

Posted by Lesley Barrington, 23rd August 2006 8:44pm

Before I passed my driving test, I was using the train and bus services to travel 14 miles (one-way) every weekday morning and then another 14 miles back home during the afternoon rush-hour. Because of bad connections, it was taking 1hr 45mins in the morning and 1hr 30minutes on the way home! These figures are without any delays so picture what it would have been like had i missed a train or when such problems as signal failure occured? Not to mention - for the privelege of this wonderful service i paid £60/week. Now I can drive and it takes me 35minutes to do the same journey and costs only £20/week plus other expenses such as insurance and tax.
If trains were more regular, had more space to sit, called at more stations, had good connections and were cost effective, then i might consider using them again. I think at the end of the day it always boils down to the same things - time and money.

Posted by Simon Turner, 23rd August 2006 8:50pm

We are retired and on a fixed income, we would love to visit friends afar by train but the cost makes it unrealistiic, so we travel by car, but not as often as we would like.

Posted by Mr. Walter Henry Leal, 23rd August 2006 9:10pm

If I was able to be picked up from my door and arrive at the door of my destination, if I could listen to my own choice of music at whatever volume I see fit, if I could be guaranteed not to hear the noise of other people. Until this day arrives (and because infrastructure in the country is going backwards, not forwards it won't) I will take the car everytime.

Posted by Christopher Cherrington, 23rd August 2006 9:11pm

I'd love to be able to use the train, but the rails have been taken up and the nearest station is now 30 miles away with three buses a day to the station. I'd welcome trains that didn't run on time!

Posted by Joan Mitchell, 23rd August 2006 9:21pm

I'd take the train to work but it would involve a 2 mile drive to the station as there aren't any buses, pay for parking and ticket. The choice of 1 train at 8.10- if that is delayed or cancelled, waiting for another hour or driving to work anyway (after already shelling out for parking). I'd rather drive in the comfort of my own car. Until the Government decide to make public transport (especially in rural areas) a viable and cost effective alternative to driving I'll be taking the road.

Posted by Rachel Loveday, 23rd August 2006 9:31pm

I'd take the train if as a wheelchair user I knew that it would be a trouble free journey with no worries about what sort of access does a station have! So I am left with no choice but use a car and put up with the ever increasing costs of petrol.

Posted by Kamran Mallick, 23rd August 2006 9:33pm

I think you need to look no further than corruption for the state of the rail network.at least 9 years now the railways have been in private hands. those companies KNEW the state of the network when they all vied to take them over. if you buy a business thats flagging you cant go to the government for tax payers money to bail you out,unlike the rail owners can. You'd be told "you knew what it was like when you bought it"why doesn't the government make them run an efficiant service? because they must be getting some kind of kick back from some where. I bet the directors give themselves a fat bonus every year and the government don't say "NO WAY put that money into improving the service you wanted to run". after all you all promised a better service.wrong leaves, too hot, too cold. i suppose it will be too bright next for an excuse. india, sri lanka, and other poor countries can run a rail network efficiantly,without modern rolling stock, and the people put their washing on the lines to dry(I've seen it) their trains run on time.it's about time there was a massive demonstration in this country. more and more taxes, and less and less to show for them.

Posted by Alf, 23rd August 2006 9:39pm

My partner is a train driver, we are entitled to free train travel but neither of us use it. The nearest station is 4 miles away and has extremely limited and very expensive parking. Until there are improved links, it is unfeasible. And what about a train driver who can't the train to work because when he finishes his shift, there are no trains home LOL No wonder the company give them free travel, they don't use it.... because it is impractical

Posted by F1ferrari0, 23rd August 2006 9:40pm

Why do we keep spending money repairing old, out of date, had its day, unsafe rail networks, when for not much more money we could possibly consider a completly new overhead rail system - operated on a vacuun principle. Travelling over cities and farm land without disrupting and dividing communities at ground level, able to travel at great speeds from city to city. Perhaps that is too simple or futuristic!

Posted by Michael Nance, 23rd August 2006 9:40pm

I would love to use the train but why should i, £3.50 for the station car park then £13.60 for the train fare. Then try to relax by reading a book or even closing your eyes for a while. But then peace is shattered by the mobile phone going off and then the person who takes the call shouting down the phone until you get to your destination. So I will stay in the car for now.

Posted by Colin Bassett, 23rd August 2006 9:46pm

Before I retired :-

Jouney to work by car 35 mins. Includes 10 min walk from car park
Journey to work by train 15 mins. includes 10 min walk to and from stations.
Journey by pedal cycle 15 mins.
Walking all the way. 40 mins.

For the last 5 yrs I cycled every day summer and winter. on a dedicated cycle/footpath on a closed railway line ( oh why oh why were these lines closed, they would be so useful today)

Posted by Terry Tracey, 23rd August 2006 10:08pm
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