If parking isn’t a crime why should I pay a fine?

225 Comments | Add Comment | Blog entry posted 22nd August, 2006

It used to be that there were yellow lines in places where you were obstructing traffic flow and if you parked on them you got fined which is fair enough. It was a criminal offence after all and they were there for a reason.
But in 1991 a new act of parliament gave local councils the power to decriminalise parking enforcement in their local area and collect the revenue for themselves.

In effect parking penalties changed from fines for crimes to another stealth tax all over the country.
People were so used to parking being illegal that they didn’t realise the change had happened as everywhere in the UK started to get covered with yellow lines.

In my view councils should be putting lines down to manage the traffic and reduce accidents. But instead they are drawing extra ones to make money.

A bit like speed cameras but the big difference I do mind is that if you get caught speeding as with any other crime you get a fair trial before an independent court. If you want to argue with a parking ticket your first port of call is the Council who issued it and after that a body called NPAS which appears to be funded by Manchester Council.

It’s a bit like your employer paying for the Judge at your employment tribunal against them, all wrong!
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Mo Judson-saville March 1, 2007

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What about wheel clamps & private companies, isn't it time that these were made illegal. My daughter-in-law who was 6 months pregnant parked in an area of Sheffield that she had always used before she finished working and didn't realise that parking arrangements had changed. Because is was night time and therefore dark, she didn't notice the new signs which were quite small and not obviously placed. Because she didn't return within a certain time (she was on a night out with friends), her car had been towed away. Being 30 miles away from home, you can immagine her distress, luckily she managed to phone her friends and they returned to help her. Three of them had to get cash from an ATM to get the £190 needed and they took her to get her car back. The experience left her quite traumatised and now she avoids going out on her own. I have heard so many stories like this & it seems to me that these private companies are deliberately trying to trick drivers into parking, they watch from a distance & pounce once you have gone, usually to clamp the car. It should be illegal even if the land is private, fines - fair enough but this should be stopped.

Lee Ellis February 28, 2007

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last week all the cars in the front of the house's were all given parking tickets. these cars are parked in front of their homes. 20 odd years ppl have been parking there but the councel needed money. they said its because accidents have happened there, but we looked into this and found out the last reported accident was in 1988....... so we question this then was told they need access for the fire engins. well ive seen the fire brigade go past many of time and not once did they have to slow down because of parked cars. we just cant win, nothing is safe.

Martin Ellison February 3, 2007

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does anyone have any idea if i can be fined for a parking ticket if the ticket wasnt placed on my car ?? i was dropping someone off in bolton town centre and i was round a corner out of the main road but admittedly there were double yellows and no loading at any time etc but i wasnt parked i was stopped with the engine running because my phone went off as i was driving away suddenly i saw in my mirror a stealth warden sneaking up writing a ticket so i dumped the phone and drove away, i had been stopped literally 30 seconds as i dropped some passengers off because there is no parking in that area at all for the shops i was wondering if they could use my reg number to post me a fine, and if they did would i have to pay it

Fred Benoit January 26, 2007

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I'm French and I just have been given a fine(I know many of you will say "you deserve it you bloody frog").....But in an ALDI store I find this fine a bit unfair and unjustified!I was doing my shopping for 15mn and when I came out the dirty job was already done!The warden pointed to a parking machine which I didn't even notice because in my country any superstore parking is free!Some of them would pay their customers to attract them!Let aside charging you for the parking!
In France there is no more road tax disc to buy in order to use the public road although the state of the roads is far better than in England!And in NO WAY in any super store you would be charged for parking!This is a typical English insanity only made easier by the laxism of the people in this country.In Paris(the CAPITAL!) the parking fine was 12 Euros one or two years ago(£8 approx.),comparing to £60 in England!!How can people stand this daylight robbery and keep quiet?Has M.Thacher realy whiped off any sens of protest in this country?When I tell my friends I've paid £175 tax disc to use my car on a public road they ask me jawdropped what the hell I am doing in this bizarre country!And I ask myself the same question.No wonder millions of English people run away to France from an unaffordable way of life!

Jerrian Dafou January 26, 2007

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Sincerement je suis dans un pays base sur le racket du citoyen.Tout est scrupuleusement mis en oeuvre pour pieger le pauvre travailleur qui cherche une place de stationnement que ce soit pour aller ou en revenant de son travail!Il m'est attive de tourner autour pendant plus d'un quart d'heure pour trouver une place de stationnement et en meme temps j'apercois les agents comme des vautours attendant que je commette le "crime odieux"de stationner la ou il ne faut pas!
Aujourd'hui comble du comble j'ai ete victime d'une contravention dans un centre commercial alors que je faisais paisiblement mes courses!!Honteux,en France une telle absurdite n'aurait jamais eu lieu!!Il est grand temps que je quitte ce pays de fous et que je rentre chez moi!Pas etonnant que des millions d'Anglais viennent envahir la France fuyant un systeme obsolete base sur le depouillement de l'honnete citoyen!!

Chris Kealey January 21, 2007

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hi there i am a disabled driver and i parked up in a disabled bay in the town were i live.we have only just got these so called traffic wardens a few months ago.now here is what happened the person who drives me about sometimes forgot to place the blue badge in the window of the car when we got out.(he had taken me to dentist)when we returned to the car i discoverd the ticket on the window.if the traffic warden had looked at my tax disc he would have seen quite clearly that it read disabled.can anyone tell me was he right to issue ticket or not

Jon Brown January 15, 2007

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And just to remind you a few others -
234. You MUST NOT stop (yes that's stop so no waiting for your partner/kids) or park on
• the carriageway or the hard shoulder of a motorway
except in an emergency (see Rule 264)
• a pedestrian crossing, including the area marked by the
zig-zag lines (see Rule 185)
• a clearway (see page 87)
• taxi bays as indicated by upright signs and markings
• an urban clearway within its hours of operation, except to
pick up or set down passengers (see page 87)
• a road marked with double white lines, except to pick up
or set down passengers
• a tram or cycle lane during its period of operation
• a cycle track
• red lines, in the case of specially designated ‘red routes’,
unless otherwise indicated by signs.
Any vehicle may enter a bus lane to stop, load or unload
where this is not prohibited (see rule 135).
Laws MT(E&W)R regs 7 & 9, MT(S)R regs 6 & 8, ZPPPCRGD regs 18 & 20,
RTRA sects 5, 6 & 8, TSRGD regs 10, 26 & 27, RTA 1988 sects 21(1) & 36

Jon Brown January 15, 2007

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Don't like paying yellow line parking tax don't park on them. Didn't know it was illegal to park on bus stop - read the highway code ignorance is not an excuse. Park on the pavement because you or your visitors can't be bothered to park safely some distance away - try thinking about the partially sighted person who may walk into your car because of your self indulgence. It's about time pavement parkers were hit with £1000 Disability Discrimination Act fines. Too many self important moaners who think RTA doesn't apply to them (or perhaps magic hazards will shield them). Oh and the 75% of Blue badge holders who seem to be able to leap out of car skip down road and spend 2 hours walking around town - perhaps we should all be give chance to buy a badge say £1000 would be fair for 2 hours parking everyday for a year free to genuine wheelchair users - not those just to fat to be bothered with walking (cause and effect). Anyone I've not upset.

Jonathan Swift January 2, 2007

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Councils need to take into account the need to stimulate commerce. Presently most seem determined to frustrate access. There needs to be some better compromise: ie compulsory off street all day parking for business staff,strict private car-parking time limits with a free period of grace,goods delivery vehicle curfew hours,more park and ride schemes, free mobility vehicle parking. There's more but first a meeting of minds is necessary to determine if the local authority wants to encourage customers.

Paul Parks December 23, 2006

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I got a PCN in a Colchester pay and display last week. It was a Sunday which means a charge of £1.50 regardless of length of stay. I bought a ticket from the machine, but failed to notice that what came out was dated the previous day! Of course, computers can't make mistakes can they, according to the council! My mistake (apart from going to Colchester) was being too trusting and not checking.

Gerry Poulson November 23, 2006

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Despite vehicles being parked on double yellow lines(and have their "I am parking illegally" lights flashing, together with causing an obstruction, which means that other drivers are put at risk(let alone pedestrians), the 1991 RTA gives them the right to park whenever and wherever without retribution.
What a bloody joke, when I was forced to park a little bid on a yellow grid near to a nursery for kids.
Making sure that I didn't block anyone else in meant that I was forced to slightly impinge on this grid.
Back 40 minutes later(I'm partially disabled and, from the timing of the ticket, the warden must have seen me limping), and -despite having paid at the meter -I get a ticket!

Nik Drake November 19, 2006

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the only parking issue that i find most ironic and am surprised that it is not challenged, as it is so obviously daylight robbery, is the that pay and display machines in our area dont give change. you go to the machine you dont have exact change, you were only gonna be 30 mins, end up paying for 2hrs. then to make matters worse if you try to be a good decent citizen and pass your ticket on you get slammed for that. I mean wot is going on. I suggest to keep all your pay and display tickets mark how much change your owed then march down to the council and demand it back, or if you have a lot of parking fines for parking while you were off to get change take the tickets to them and ask them to ofset the cost. There are so quick to jump if you you owe them money its time they showed us the same consideration.

Victoria Gordon November 6, 2006

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i have received a parking ticket for parking in the corner of a bus stop.i was not obstructing traffic and i was not blocking the bus.this is a road with shops and fast food placess,most of the time cars are parked where ever there is a space and then there are the double yellow lines hence why i parked in a bus stop.I wasn't aware it was illegal,if i was i wouldn't have parked there.

Stumpy October 19, 2006

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Did you know. If a road user blocks your drive way access which you require the council to install with permission. YOU ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED to move ther vehicle out of the way and if you damage yours or any equipment you use in the process you can claim off their insurance with no fault to you.

Adrian Nott October 2, 2006

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What I find funny is that one of the enforcers of yellow lines park their cars and vans on double yellow lines and nothing can be done. In Kingston-upon-Thames you regually see Police Vehicles park on double yellow lines outside the main Police Station, when just the other side of the gates is their car park. Is it that their are too lasy to park in the car park or like a lot of bussiness's their car park is too small, but unlike the general public they can break the law and park where they like.

Simon Hughes September 26, 2006

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Parking space in the UK is seen as a premium by local councils and government in general. The need for regulation of parking space on our roads is essential for the flow of traffic. However, recent policy from central government has seen the proliferation of pre-payment designated parking spaces. Yet another useful tax raising measure, as payment for these spaces is required coupled to the fact that the over-stay will incur further tax being levied. More draconian measures such as the clamping of the vehicle/or towing away can be employed. There is no doubt that parking has become a thorny issue! Nobody accepts the fact that we are now a nation of 60m, we have inadequate road and public transport systems yet, we are actively encouraged to buy new property, new cars etc. All this falls on the inadequate road systems which are in turn exasperated by the narrowing of main arteries by local councils attempting to force road users out of their cars and onto public transport. When will common sense prevail and we see massive investment into public transport which will enable people to change from their reliance on the car?

A Han September 18, 2006

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Hi, I am a taxi driver and i got a parking ticket on bearwood high street for picking up a passenger. i had to wait for the warden to finish writing the ticket because he was taking too long and i was in a rush. Complained about it to get an answer saying that i should not have parked there because there are clear signs saying NO PARKING.Hmmmm very clever.

A Han September 18, 2006

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I once got a parking ticket for parking somewhere where there was no sign saying "NO PARKING", so I complained about it. after couple of weeks igot a letter saying " we are looking in the matter". And after couple of weeks i got another letter saying that i have to pay the because there is a sign saying NO PARKING. So i got back to check and surprise surprise! there is a brand new sign saying "no parking, no loading at anytime". Paid the fine realizing I was asking for justice from the procecuters. How foolish of me?

Alan Bone September 16, 2006

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I do not mind having to pay to use a car park but why should we be charged for parking on a road, every car owner has paid a tax through thier road fund licence to use the road, provided the car is parked in a place which is not causing an obstruction or any danger to other road users or pedestrians surely the fee for using the road has been paid.

Jim Bradley September 15, 2006

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I have been paying an annual charge of £25 per year to park outside my own home - in a quiet cul-de-sac - in my town. The council has now seen fit to propose that they raise this fee to £52!
When I questioned why they needed to charge residents the answer was so that residents could park easily and others would be parking illegally. They also have parking meters in the street so I've now asked that they simply meter charge the non-residents and issue residents with a permit that's either free or only at a nominal charge....now I wonder what the answer to that is going to be.
They also claimed that the quarterly charge of £9 was mainly used by new residents who were 'settling in' - the proposal is to raise this fee to £30 .... my arguement is that the quarterly permit is used by those people on a limited budget who cannot afford to pay the full annual fee - they will now be hit with a cumulative £120 to park outside their own homes, now where's the justice in that!!!!!
Jim Bradley. High Wycombe

Margaret Sloan September 11, 2006

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with reference to "Posted by Douglas Purnell, 27th August 2006 12:34am" i can assure this gentleman that i GENUINELY BELIEVED I HAD PARKED IN A DISABLED BAY, maybe that was due to the fact that i was worried sick about getting to see my daughter, and being distraught at the lack of parking in and around that area for someone who is unable to walk any fair distance! i hope that you never find yourself in that kind of situation!

Peter Metalli September 9, 2006

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Re: 177.
If you think that the pavement is wide enough then why to ask the council to reduce the width so that parking IS possible without infringing on an area which is designed for pedestrians.

I think it more likely however that the pavement has been made wider in order to give ADEQUATE access to all pedestrians. Obviously without seeing your specific area I cannot comment but ANY footpath that is less than 1.3 metres in width is not adequate for ANY user.



Peter Metalli September 9, 2006

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Re: 176.

The police etc parking on pavements maybe acceptable in exceptional circumatances but more often than not this is simply laziness whilst they visit the doughnut shop or burger king.

Blocking pavements is one of the most selfish acts that a driver can do and the worst are those who think that by parking half-on and half-off are helping; they are not. All they do is block access for both road users AND pedestrians.


And as for comment 177. Why should pedestrians have to suffer because YOU don't have enough room? If the road where you live was a single lane one-way street you would not block access for other users so why do you think that it is acceptable to do so when it affects the most vulnerable of other users. i.e. pedestrians and in particular disabled people, parents with children. Why should THEY be forced into the path of on-coming traffic becasue of your selfishness.

If you want extra parking facilities then either pave over your garden or move house. Public footpaths should not be comandeeered for your own private use to the exculsion of other tax-payers.





Steve Withington September 5, 2006

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Ist got a parking fine in Wigan were i was working on site, single yellow line i parked up and unloaded my stuff then move car to side street then when job done moved car abck to road again to park,as i do a service stype of job i need to be outside were i work heavy machines to carry in and out>when i came back out guess what i got fine i could not believe it,then i seen the warden i ask her why you booked me when you cani am loading and been working on site,she said its not me and i would not have if i had seen you and spoke to me.I had note in windows in case any problems when i was in building but she told me they are not to take notice of them.Any i have wrote in and took pics of were i was and also customers details will see what happens.

Stephen Lomax September 5, 2006

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Avoid parking costs every time... Simply book your car into a motor garage in the middle of the town or city that you are going for the latests appointment of the day. Your car will be parked quite happily there untill you come along and pick it up at the end of your shopping trip (before appointment time) and off you go on your merry way.

Its just a though (I have'nt realy done that).


Roger Barnard September 1, 2006

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Yellow lines are a pain for all drivers, if yellow lines were used to remind drivers about the parking rules as stated in the Highway Code it would make driving safer for everyone, stop people parking on corners and other junctions, when you see yellow lines on straight wide roads but no restrictions on service road turnings and juctions it just shows that the local authorities are out to make money rather than keep the traffic flowing.

Catherine August 31, 2006

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Parking is both an interesting and frustrating topic. I parked in Slough, Berks, yesterday on a road outside the town that used to be free for an hour. For some reason I made a point of checking the sign, which said to pay at meter. There was one meter for the whole road (not obvious). The parking charges were 20p for ½ hour then it jumped to £1 for 30mins to 1 hour! Any longer than that and it was even more expensive. Also, the traffic warden was prowling around just waiting for the second a car park ticket ran out and he could issue a fine - he was even taking photos! Yet, recently, whilst on holiday in a small town in Scotland there wasn't a hint of a sign of a traffic warden and, although they have some yellow lines, parking in the town centre square was free and people were generally considerate in their choice of parking place. I think it just goes to show that if councils trust people a bit more and relax their predatory attitude, generally people will obey rules without realising because they become more considerate & thoughtful of where they park. What really annoys me is people who block driveways. Someone had parked ¾ of the way across my parents drive and my Mum could not use her car as she couldn't get access to the road ... just plain ignorant and inconsiderate!

Samantha Blackmore August 29, 2006

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outside our hospital. Morriston Swansea there are clearly displayed signs warning it is an urban clearway, I think that it is high time a warden got off their preverbials and started putting tickets on cars it is a clearway to allow accsses to emergency vehicles!!!!! after telephoning the police who dont actually give a fig, nothing is done. but people whine and moan when they get a ticket !!! duh dont park there then.

Alan Munday August 29, 2006

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I PARKED IN OLD STREET NORTH LONDON ON A SINGLE YELLOW LINE.
APPARARENTLY I PARKED IN WHAT THE COUNCIL CALL A CPZ(CONTROLLED PARKING ZONE) .A TICKET WAS ISSUED TO ME BY A BUS LANE CAMERA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD UNKNOWN TO ME.THEY DON'T EVEN NEED TRAFFIC WARDENS NOW.THIS WAS 8.40 A.M AND THE ROAD WAS VIRTUALLY EMPTY.CAN THEY USE BUS LANE CAMERAS TO ISSUE TICKETS AND WHY NOT SHOW A SMALL AMOUNT OF DISCRETION.I STOPPED FOR ABOUT 2 MINUTES.

William Allan Wyllie August 29, 2006

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Property with parking spaces or garages cost more than those that don't - so if you park on the road you should pay more road tax

Mari Itoh August 28, 2006

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I found a ticket hanging from side mirror one day, while I was parked at the private parking area of the University where I don't need any desplay ticket to park. I looked inside and the date was a week and a half ago and the street was far away from the parking I was parked at. My son was the one who parked at that address but insists that he parked after the restriction was finished. I conplained to council but they insisted that we had to pay and any more complain will increase the fine. Isn't this a black mail? I thought the traffic waden had to display when the offense occoured and they don't have right to put on the vehicle afterwards even they spotted the offending vehicle? Those traffic warden gets paid by how many they caught. If is becomes crime again the police had deal with it again and there would not be a case where, I suspect, non-police regulated traffice wardens trying to make more catches. Many of my friends was given a ticket where it should not have. Some complaint was accepted and ticket cancelled but many cases the coucil would say, who do you think we believe, you or our wardens. I think is is very unfair. I think before they(coucil) make the parking impossible, they should make more public parking available in the town, by making more multistorey parking and also making the public transportation more reliable and more frequent so that the people don't have to take their cars to town too often.
Traffic tax is same thing, the goverment thinks if they put tax on driving into town, the people will take their car less. They are so wrong. They have to think about making infrastructure more adequate to convince us(people) to use public transportation. Because the public transportation is unreliable and expensive, we have no choice but to take our car into town. When the government realise that?

Brian Charlton August 28, 2006

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Yes - I do think that yellow lines are annoying. Why? - nothing to do with preventing me parking where I want. Reason? - they are just yet another piece of unnecessary road furniture. We have more signs/km in this country than any other country in the world.

I live in a very rural area where there are still 20 - 25 signs and posts every km. That's 20 - 25 more things to hit. Years ago there was an initiative to get rid of unnecessary clutter along our roads. Now as well as speed limit signs we have camera signs - half of which can't be seen because of overgrown hedgerows. The human brain can't take in more than a few words at any one time on a sign and some worded signs are impossible to read - no wonder people get confused about where they can and can't park!

Wendy Gwilliam August 28, 2006

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I agree that parking needs to be controlled in order that everybody has a chance to access services. What I really object is buying a parking ticket; displaying it; coming back more than an hour before it expires and STILL getting a parking ticket. Thank you Ashford Borough Council. One town centre I am never going to visit again.

Peter Shears August 28, 2006

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I know you should not park on pavements. It is not clear to me wether or not it is illegal. However on the road where I live most houses have enough room for one car in the garage and one on the drive. We have one car. So if we have visitors for a party or at Christmas some will have to park on the road ( no yellow lines). However if cars are parked fully on the road there would not be sufficient room for other cars to pass. Therefore there is no alternative but for our guests to park part on the road and part on the pavement which is reasonably wide. it is possible to leave room for a pushchair or wheel chair. This should be acceptable and legal.

Ian Ingamells August 27, 2006

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Having read some of the comments regarding POLICE VEHICLES parking on pavements etc, I feel I have to comment:
1. Emergency vehicles are exempt from certain rta laws, seatbelts (when carrying prisoners), speed restrictions (when responding to emergency situations when it is safe to do so). Emergency vehicles are also exempt from parking restrictions, ie yellow lines.
Please bear in mind the officers may be attending at an urgent matter, which unfortunately happen all too often!
Would you moan if the Emergency vehicle was outside your house, on double yellow lines, catching a burglar running from your house, or attending a report that your wife or child had been sexually assaulted.
Please have some sense and support your emergency vehicle users, they may one day save your life, and may have to park on yellow lines to do so.

Hazel Taylor August 27, 2006

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What has the law come to when we cannot even park infront of our own home without getting a ticket. We not only have illegal double wellow lines on one side of our street (they have no stop ends on them), the local council have now put marked speed bumps in. We have a school nearby and the traffic calming should be restricted to morning and afternoon, but this has been recently changed. However they are making a packet from all the residents in the street by coming by even in the evening. You go to bed and wake up in the morning with a ticket. I think someone needs to "Get a proper job" The best is the recent addition of a parking bay to allow for resident parking and now they have put yellow lines in that too!! What Next I ask?

Douglas Mclean August 27, 2006

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Parking now is yet a further tax on Motorists by this Government and Local Authorities, made evn worse by the use of Community Police Officers.

As a former Chairman of Magistrates and 28 years on the Bench, now aged 74 years of age, I have always viewed parking offences as careless people who had neither the common sense or complete disdain for parking rules, however there is now a situation Country wide, that motorists are fair game.

I live in rural area where the news that Community Police were to be employed to counter problems with mainly yobbish young people. Nothing has been done to counter that but parking offences have rocketed.

As a motorist of nearly 56 years and no offences on my licence, I stopped at a local Chemist, to drop in a prescription, straight in the Chemist and out, to find myself being booked by a Communty Police Officer. On the ticket the time for the offence was 9.57 am to 10.00 am I was on a yellow line guilty as charged. I now find this Officer waits bewhind the Chemists and is doing quite well for the local Authority. I stopped on the yellow line because I am not very mobile, now I shall have to join the Blue Badge brigade, which is abused so much.

Incidently the local Yobs are going about scot free.

Douglas Purnell August 27, 2006

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Sorry, Margaret Sloan but like Bristol City Council, I don't believe you either when you say you were unaware you had 'inadvertantly' parked in an ambulance bay. I know that road you are referring to (Lower Maudlin Street) and the bay in question has a sign clearly stating 'ambulance bay' 'no waiting' and the bay surround on the road itself is marked 'ambulance' in yellow paint. You would have seen this as you pulled into the bay and again as you got out of the car. If you parked there regardless, I am not surprised you were given a ticket. It's right outside the entrance to the dental hospital, what did you expect? I suspect like many chancers who think that nobody will book them in the time it takes to go round the corner to the BRI, you got caught and now you're trying to play the victim. There really is no way that you could not have seen those ambulance markings when you parked up.

Tony Heath August 26, 2006

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I'm afraid that little attention is paid to judgement by merit of circumstances or by application of commom sense; I drive almost 1500 miles a week, mainly pursuing business, and I believe that the more miles that a motorist covers, places the motorist at a higher risk of falling foul of motoring legislation.
Common sense should dictate the reasonableness of applying legislation to punish an offender, not for the pursuit of revenue through legislation by Government.

David Fuller August 26, 2006

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If yellow lines are to keep traffic moving and not have the roads blocked why are drivers with a blue disability card allowed to park on them? I agree some have restrictes which make it hard to get about but having just returned from holiday the majority I saw where as able as myself, one even got out his car and was kicking a football along the road. In Bournemouth some were so badly parked it was causing a road block.
So come on if somebody is that badly disabled then lets have bays that don't hold up traffic and have them policed so as the people who need them are using them and the ones who can get about park like the rest of us in the CAR PARK or is it they are trying to avoid parking?

Adrian Hunt August 26, 2006

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Yes, I find yellow line annoying!
Yes, I find people parking on corners or inconsiderately (parking in the middle of space that would fit two cars snugly so that theirs is easier to get in and out of!
Yes, I find that whole issue of parking fines annoying.
Locally, we have the ticket-and-go type of traffic warden on a scooter, who attacks by stealth, on private roads just before people go to work etc.
Also I find that on my own road, a bus route, residents are unable to park on the road, not through parking restrictions, but for fear of being hit by the Travel West Midlands buses that drive like nutters up and down the road. My neighbours car has been hit by buses repeatedly. They never accept responsibility either! Those residents that do not have off road parking have no option but to park on the pavement to avoid having their cars damaged by a bus.

The only option for them is to demolish their front gardens to build driveways and have their kerbs lowered.

Is this just yet another expense for the sad old motorist?

Ian August 26, 2006

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it seems this blog is predjudice?
i posted a message to say my thoughts, basicly illigal parking is against the law, you break the law, you pay!!!
yellow lines are there for a reason!!
my points were true to the fact!
i work closly with local councils and the local police force.
just because i told people to stop moaning my message was not released.(161 or 162?)
more than likley this one wont be either
i am very opinionated and sites like this should show all opinions, not just those who have been fined for doing things that are illigal!!
if you want a state run by villans so you can get away with murder, move to iraq!!!
oh by the way if you park there your car most likley wont be a car when you get back?

Jewel August 25, 2006

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Strange now that Camden charges for parking where was once yellow lines -to keep traffic flowing is now pay and display!
It feels like a parking mafia in Camden.I can't drop off my daughter at Kentish town tube with out being caught on cameras and fined, I have to pull into a side street so defeting the safety aspect of dropping them at a well lit station.
Oh well way taxation is going =how much is a breath of fresh air....

Kirsty Lou August 25, 2006

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Yes i beleive there are to many yellow lines, and some one has totally gone over the top.
But also there are plenty of car parks and park and ride buses for those in large towns or cities so there is no excuse for parking on these lines, i get very annoyed by people moaning about having to pay a £25 etc fines and when they ignore it the interest goes up and the bill is a fortune.
When in the first place this could have been resolved by a £2 car park fee.

Eamonnjohndevine August 25, 2006

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Parking Attendants are Destroying shopping life in Chorley which is a brilliant Market Town. People now are afraid to come here for a bargain espically as to what you save in your day out ,you pay Double back to the Council,so Whay is the point in Taking a chance? Two further IssuesIwould like to Address
NO 1 My Heating Boiler needed repaired and the Plumber although leaving a large notice on his Windscreen was issued with a ticket. I spoke to the Warden about this and he told That Law prevented Him coming to my house to check if the plumber was were he said he was. He was not allowed on PrivateProperty. Needless to say the Plumber hasn't come Back. I wonder why?
NO 2
People who park IN Disabled Parking Areas should be Fined £100.Then they would think more about THE DISABLED and how lucky they are to be ABLE BODIED

Simon Westerby August 25, 2006

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What really annoys me about peiple who park, or stop on double yellow lines is taht they think by putting on their hazzard warning lights, it makes it ok to stop and obstruct the traffic (as if the two blinking yellow lights match the line son the road)!

People these days really do have little regard for the consequences of their actions, and more often then not anyone who gets a ticket usually behaves as if the TW was in the wrong.

Also remember that a single Yellow line does not mean no parking, it simple indicates ac ontrolled parking zone, so theire must be signs displayed to tell you when you can and can't park (and i believe the tivket has to state where th3 nearest sign is to your car.)

White Van Man August 25, 2006

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I drive an escort van 6 days out of 7 for personal use so i cover quite a few miles every week, having to deal with lots of narrow roads and blind corners in my opinion yellow lines should be got rid of unless parking in a certain area would cause an obstruction. drivers who park on top of junctions and blind corners really have no sense and probably do not realise what kind of problem they are causing, they should have no cause to complain if their vehicle gets damaged due to thier own stupidness. as for disabled drivers paring on yellow lines as the law states and is displayed on the back of the badge you may park for up to 3 hours on yellow lines as long as you are not causing an obstruction to other road users. so shurely if everyione issued with these blue badges took the time and effort to read the rules and followed them then there would be no problem with them parking. i have disabled persons in my family and i am often driving them around, sometimes it is not convienient drop them off and then go and park so it is necessary to park close to where they are going. i use common sense and check that i have not caused an obstruction to other vehicle not only cars but make sure i have allowed room for larger vehicle to manouvre as well. if all drivers were more curtious and made sure they allowed room for the larger vehicles to manouvre then the congestion in most towns could be avoided and then there would be no good reason for local councils to keep putting yellow lines where they clearly should not be needed.

Caron Dyson August 24, 2006

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I agree with a lot of the views I have managed to read.
My bank (like most) is on the local high street, the ATM is situated 10metres just around the corner. Unfortunately, if I wish to turn into this street I have to make sure the is no other traffic coming towards me as I turn right into the road. The reason being every day there are vans and cars parked half on/half off the kerb and should there be a car in the right lane, I have to leave the back end of my vehicle in the main road and risk being in hit as there is no room to continue. What makes me laugh is why they have their hazards on when it obvious there is nothing wrong with the vehicle. The best thing is that the building behind the bank is the police station. I drive down this street at least twice a day and have done so for 2years and have only ever seen one person booked, I was so chuffed I had to clap and told warden to call daily as he would definately get his quota.

Regarding paying for parking, a few months ago I was 20p short for the parking meter, the reading on the ticket stated I could only park for 2 hours. I left my car and went to work. 5 hours later I returned expecting a ticket (even though I would have strongly contested the ticket) however was pleasantly surprised I hadn't received one. It just goes to show some wardens do actually take note of more than just the time and ticket number.

Rebecca Clarke August 24, 2006

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What I find most annoying is that when I decided to return to work after having my little boy we placed our little boy into a private nursery which is in an excellent town centre location. He is now at an age where we walk from the council owned car park costing £2 a day and then walk back. The only time that I drive direct to nursery is when the weather is appalling I refuse to let my child get ill because of a lack of parking. However, I have twice nearly had a parking ticket. Parents are given a triangular car park as designated parking which can fit in 3 cars. There are around 30 parents dropping off children at any one time. The council expect us to work, pay taxes, pay huge amounts in child care, pay for parking daily, then pay 60p twice a day to drop off and collect our children. It only takes 5 minutes to drop off my son. The mayor gets a car which we pay for that parks on the pavement in front of the town hall. I don't believe I have ever seen him with a parking ticket. maybe i should try that one. One rule for them and another for us!

Mr Stephen John Cocksey August 24, 2006

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I am a lorry driver who delivers multidrop to shops, to do my work I must park illegally every time I stop, WHY???? Because of all the double yellow lines. The goverment say that they want businesses to flourish etc.etc. but then put an obstacle course in the way.

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