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<quote>'Motorists across the UK appear to have ignored warnings by industry experts and the government not to panic buy fuel ahead of the proposed oil refinery strikes in Scotland due to start tomorrow'.</quote>

Encouraged by the stupidity of this web site and the national daily newspapers no doubt.

Wise up. All of these incidents are just part of the PEAK OIL jigsaw.

The sooner you all come to terms with the fact that prices will NEVER come down and will continue to ESCALATE, the better.

PEAK OIL is upon us NOW.

Fact: we are consuming more oil globally and the trend will continue

Fact: it is not a renewable resource in relation to our consumption levels

Fact: countries go to war over control of oil reserves

Fact: oil consumption has a negative impact on the environment

Fact: gas at the pump continues to, generally speaking, increase in price

Fact: many plastics and other trappings of the modern world are made from oil

Fact: the world is running out of easily sourced oil; i.e. production using current technology has peaked, and what oil is left will cost more to pull out of the ground using methods most likely to be even more unfriendly to the environment.

Start preparing for a life of austerity. NOW!

Find local employment. Reduce your debts. Reduce your fuel consumption. Grow your own vegetables or buy from local suppliers. Exercise regularly. Insulate your home. Help your family, friends and colleagues to understand the implications of PEAK OIL.

I happen to agree with Peak Oil. We are in trouble. Perhaps he keeps pushing the same message in the hope that ppl will start to consider their future plans. Well done.

The way I perceive the situation is that peak oil (which by the way should not be capitalised) is not fully responsible for the recent ridiculous rises in oil prices. It is the fear of peak oil itself.

So much media and government attention is paid to the "dwindling reserves" and we are constantly told to cut back on buying petrol and to take more walks etc. To back all this up, of course prices have to shoot up to the moon. After all, if fuel was still reasonable, the problem wouldn't be there!

Here's a news flash - we don't need rising fuel prices (particularly with the scandal of charging VAT on top of fuel duty) to dictate how we lead our lives and to make us feel guilty about destroying our planet. We were doing that when petrol was 60p a litre.

So, by all means, do as these spam comments tell you and type "PEAK OIL WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE" into Google. But do so, knowing that you're simply fuelling the fire.

Location: Norfolk Yesterday.

I pulled into Tesco for a spot of shopping, noting that the diesel was 116p/L.
After spending about a 1 hour in the shop, I thought I'd top up the car.. only to find the fuel station bleed completely dry.
Further down the road fuel stations were offering fuel at 120p/L for unleaded, with diesel costing a bit more, oddly the forecoruts were packed.

Total freaking madness.

I agree with Peak Oil - we have to STOP now using a none renewable source of power, It's about time we ALL wake up to that fact - roll on £5 a litre.... I'm off to a less crowded country and grow our own food Hmmmm no cars/lorries, madness of the UK.....

Yes, WAR, GLOBAL RIOTS, BLACKOUTS, FOOD shortage - the government ARE already planning, And you think climate change is a problem !

Ive read that tirade from "Peakoil" which he cuts and pastes into every single blog on here. Its very sad, you'd think human beings would have better things to do. The second i see the start of that cut and pasted tirade i just skip to the next comment. As do most people probably, nutters who constantly badger you, you're not going to sit there and listen to them are you?

As for panic buying. There hasnt been a problem where i am (South East of England), not a problem at all. I usually fill the tank when its close to running out. Do it all in one go, i filled it up on Thursday as i was past the red, and i wont put more in until i hit the red again. Others like to put £10 or £20 in at a time, i like to do it this way. Fewer trips to the petrol station the better as far as im concerned.

I can not afford to live where I work

I can not find work where I live

There is no public transport between the two that works

So tell me Peak Oil, are you going to subsidise my unemployment if I give up my car, and dont go to work?

Bleating about things we all know already is just an irritating emotional cop-out. To make any real difference we need to get in and move away from our society's complete dependence on oil to survive. We need to be pushing for urgent research into alternative energy and transport resources.

Politicians are really only interested in climate change /pollution issue because a) it creates lots of extra taxes to collect, and b) its a vote winner.

Having read this blog after having waited nearly an hour to get my USUAL amount of Diesel to last me the week, in an area completely unaffected by this strike just confirms how fickle, self absorbed, paranoid and crassly selfish people can be.

If this is the reaction to expect from a 2 day strike at an oil refinery that doesn't supply your area then god help us when something serious happens.

Since the fuel protests of 2000, I've been putting away what I can to cover this inevitable backlash against fuel costs so that if I have to miss out on work, I can keep myself going for a while. I'm certainly not well paid in my vocation, but I'm not going to mindlessly panic as the general populace seems to have done.

What disgusts me more than anything is that costs and taxes have risen time after time for apparent green reasons and yet absolutely no work has been subsidised in working out a solution. LPG is closer to the answer but is still a by-product of a fossil fuel and Biodiesel tends to be car wrecking garbage at 90% of the cost of standard Diesel. As yet there is NO sensible answer to the looming energy crisis that people are too selfish or naive to admit/accept it's existance.

As a last note, I'd like to thank the mindless petrol panickers in the UK for stuffing a huge revenue boost into the Labour purse, well done!

Everyone that agrees with peak oil should take a look over the waters and see the up coming developing countries and their fuel expenditure. Even if Peak Oil gets his way and we in Britain use less fuel the prices will still go up.

Why?

Well these taxes that are supposed to help are going to be implemented else where until one day when we all have our gardens and eat our own food we get taxed on eating our own grown food.

Do not fall for this Peak Oil theorem as it is not a justification on high stealth taxes on one nation.

We saw the top gear crew driving to the north pole which shows that the global warming is not happening as fast as these people want us to believe.

Do some research and mix common sense with book smarts and you will see the light.

I for one am not going to stand silent and take it from the rear end by these environmentalists I will fight for the motorist even if I am alone.

Putting food on the table is more important than rising living expenses. As Peak Oil and others will agree putting up fuel prices unnecessarily will not keep the motorist of the road.

Down with unnecessary taxes.

Live in Leeds West Yorkshire, Have not seen much signs of panic buying, the only real differance i have seen is the price of fuel, yes its up again & when the school holidays arrive it goes up then, every group of motorists have a reason for using their cars, mine is im disabled and its the safest form of transport for me. its about time the petrol companys and the tax man found a way to reduce the cost to the general public, all goods are transported by road at some point causing the cost of living to rise, due to the greed of a few,

Tonyw is sort of in the right direction but is missing the big three letter word. Tax.

Its because of this three letter word that no matter what alternative energy source we come up with, especially in Britain, it will not be affordable.

Why?

The government, with the aid of the greeny goodie two shoes, have made profit not once not twice but many times on the motorist. If you take this income away its like taking a cigarette away from a smoker.

The oil is going to run out one day, yes we all know that. But it is not going to happen any time soon so why make one country namely Britain pay for it?

Peoples eyes must be opened and see that by insisting on taxes you are actually asking a hit man to kill your enemy in front of you and then kill all the witnesses, meaning yourself.

In conclusion, prices can stay down by this government not spending so much money on unnecessary things i.e wars, MPs etc. In this way there will be money left over and it wont be necessary to milk the motorist.

I remind my fellow blogists, man can find a way around the energy resource replacement problem with in the time given meaning before oil runs out. So instead of taxing the problem fund the solution.

It seems people continue to miss the point. Probably because they are wrapped up in the media tirade directed against anything remotely related to the Government.

Whilst I in no way endorse Labour, I do feel that taxation (which has continued to feed our ever thirstier public service), is, for once, not the real issue.

The Goverment are not responsible for crude oil prices almost doubling in the last year. I even feel it may reach a situation where the Government are forced to cut taxes (no such luxury in the US). This is delaying the inevitable... It's not about running out of oil, it's about not being able to produce enough for the world's endless growth.

Its really simple to understand but seemingly hard to accept.

It's only a matter of time...Expect rationing within 10 years...

Well done!! To the idiots of Grangemouth Oil Refinery - by causing the closure of the Forties pipeline and restricting a third of the UK's oil supply at a cost to the economy estimated at over £100 Million, you have now given the green light to further petrol price increases by profiteering retailers and oil companies alike, making a bad situation much worse!! The price of a barrel of crude passed the $120 mark earlier today ensuring yet more misery for the long suffering British motorist and the haulage companies.
Incidentally, the changes to the company pension scheme (the reason given for the strike) do not affect any of the current employees - namely those who have walked out. The changes will only affect future employees.

SELFISH, POLITICALLY MOTIVATED IDIOTS !!

Enough said.

If we could cease the parochial b1tching for a moment...

The peak oil proponents are not environmentalists - this is a vital distinction that most of their detractors fail to understand. They're not preaching an Inconvenient Truth. Their message is far more urgent, and far more disturbing. Whilst the PO community attracts a lot of 'doomers' (the apocalyptic worst-case scenarios are, in a perverse way, psychologically seductive) this doesn't mean they're wrong. Any idiot, half-way acquainted with the facts, can conclude that PO is no mere theory, but a inexorable reality. It's the consequences which are up for debate.

I'm no doomer, but the "long suffering British motorist" (27, above) is in for one hell of a system shock.

Re: 28

Right on the spot. The consequences.
It is a shame that people are not joining up all the dots. They are there, clearly visible, and all predicted as consequences of Peak Oil.
And the sad thing? The realisation that Government, or the present type of politics, are not going to save us, isn't even on their radar.
Bit by bit, horns are going to have to be drawn in as energy becomes more expensive, it's already happening, and as for renewables? Give me a break, research it thoroughly before spouting about the 'technofix' just around the corner. There isn't one. There are renewable energy sources, but they will not even come close to providing enough energy to carry on as if nothing has or is happening.
Our way of living is going to have to change and that is that, final.
It's about physical limits being reached, it's not about anything else.
It's not about being a tree hugger, or a petrolhead, or anything else. It's about limits being reached.
Putting it all down to Gordon Brown, or oil companies or garages or whatever is to live in La La land.
Our present civilisation has arisen in a mere hundred years or so, it has reached the nadir, it is running out of energy, literally, through a total reliance on a one time bonanza, how quick the descent will be is the question, and how will it play out?
Figure a way too ride this by relying on your own selves and the community you live in, because HMG doesn't have a clue how to deal with it.
Start a Transition Town. It's nothing to do with being a greenie so don't start foaming at the mouth, it's simply about how to transition from a cheap, plentiful energy source base to one that isn't. That is all it is.
Get on with it or you really will be the blind being led by the blind.

RE 31
"Once the oil has dried up, which is no where near our life time or our great great grand kids,"

The above is a definition of La La land. Are you being paid by someone to spout this nonsense? It is a recognised oil industry misinformation tactic.
If it isn't, and you genuinely believe it, then you really don't do much in the way of research before forming an opinion, it is akin to the worst kind of tabloid journalism.

Greg, Greg, Greg. A few questions for you.

By introducing a congestion charge in London did that keep the motorists off the road?

By increasing "fuel duty" did that keep the motorists off the road?

If the answer is no then the obvious question follows is what was the point of increasing the cost of motoring?

All of this is linked to the rate of oil consumption. I now ask you, is the rate of oil consumption increasing or decreasing? Now think globally.

Right. So we both agree that looking at the world as a whole we use more oil today than we did yesterday.

Next question, is mankind using up the oil at a rate where we know for sure that within the next 25 years the oil will run out?

Since Greg enjoys research so much have you looked at the un tapped oil sources in sub Saharan Africa? Don't stop there the world is a very big place.

Mr Greg, Mr Peak Oil and other greeny goodie two shoes a word of caution, stealth taxes have a way of coming back to haunt you. Instead of concentrating on preserving a finite energy source look beyond the depletion of oil and you will see that the very same tax you supported is going to be there to greet your bank account.

When will you guys understand that you are playing yourself into the hands of the money making scrooges of the world. Think about it. You pay fuel duty because it is to discourage motorists from using their cars and to preserve the environment but that very same money that is raised is used to fund wars which is also a major leach on the oil reserves. If this money was used for research into finding other energy sources or something constructive then we would all be happy singing and dancing naked on green grass fields.

Mr Greg I am sure your intentions are good but you have to be careful. I do feel sorry for you, you are trying to do the right thing but unintentionally you end up panicking and over stressing about a problem that shouldn't really be a problem.

The world has become a cash cow that only the elite can milk. Please open your eyes.

There is always room for you to do the right thing and join our brethren in the fight for reduced duty charges.

Do the green loonies think that we motorists drive around for pleasure? Do they think that we have some mystical figure in our heads and that once the fuel price reaches that we'll all give up our cars?

I HAVE to drive to get to work. I work 20 miles from where I live and even if I took the 4 changes of bus and 2 hour journey it would take to get me to the town centre, I couldn't make it to my office. What options do I have?

Well, thanks to the lunacy of the green brigade, the greed of the government in taxing me to the point of poverty and the profiteering of the oil companies I can no longer afford the luxary of working in my current job. I have been forced to look for work closer to home so that I can actually afford to put some food on the table after I pay out my obscene commuting costs.

As for the strikers - well done. You have by your foolish act earned millions for the fuel companies and the government and cost all of us that little bit more. Terrific achievement.

It's about time we should call time on the greed of many Gulf Arab nations. Many men in these nations are already fat and bloated and want more oil revenues so they can buy yet another wife, while in other parts of the world, people are starving.

If we had a proper government that cared for the public it would act as follows:
1. Significantly reduce fuel duty to help the economy.
2. Super tax oil companies to make up the shortfall.

Peak oil sux has a good point. I second that

High prices won't make any difference to fuel consumption because it is not how much we each use that is causing the problem, it is the high number of fuel users. Put simply, Over-population.

10-15 years ago we all drive futher in less efficient cars yet our overal fuel consumption was less.

If we still had 50 million people in GB instead of the current 65-70million then there wouldn't be such high demand for fuel.

The same applies globally.

I say why bother striking why bother to not fill up for 1 day all the petrol companys know you will have to fill up some time what I suggest is this :-

Dont use the 2 well known companys (who are in fact 1 company) for a year the 2 companys have released there Quarterly joint Figure of £7.2 billion pounds I say use the likes of tesco's sainsbury's and so on, after a while the 2 well known companys will bring there prices down and then the likes of tesco's will have to bring there price's down.

I agree with Richie! I think that fuel prices will continue to rise, which makes sense in a way as the supply of oil is decreasing (and will eventually run out!).

I do not believe that people will stop buying fuel-guzzling cars/4x4's, as typically those that spend £50,000 on such a vehicle, for example, can afford its upkeep. Such people are willing to pay for that privelege, and i don't think they should be penalised/criticised for putting their hand in their pockets, or for being able to afford such luxuries.

However, for those of us that are stuggling to run our cars as fuel prices escalate, I think its a case of how much you need a car really. I have a 1.3 Diesel that is good on fuel and is fairly cheap to run i suppose. I sometimes use public transport (trains, mostly) but i find sometimes that its cheaper to run my car! Public transport is not always convenient, nor is there much incentive for us to use it. It will be interesting to see how this changes in the next few years: maybe an improvement in the system may occur, to encourage the use of public transport and help save the environment.

Like Ken says, "the people" are not taking any active steps in order to bring about a change. This poses the question: what can we do? Strike?

Sorry Boo to peak oil but you really just don't get the peak oil thing, I'm not surprised since most people just don't get it or want to get it when faced with unpleasant news - denial is normal.

The oil PRODUCTION will not suddenly stop but the amount produced will very soon start to decline and the decline will keep going for ever. We have been more or less producing the same amount since 2004 so are probably at the peak. There are a number of large projects on the go that may prevent the decline for another couple of years. However, after 2012 there is very little out there and oil fields take many years to bring to production so we know there is nothing coming. Many of the large private oil companies are buying back their own shares, i.e. they are not choosing to invest their money in oil discovery - in other words the oil companies do not think it is worth spending their money on trying to find new oil because it's not there.

Huge amounts of money and brains are going into battery development but they are fighting physics, it is pretty much impossible to store the same amount of energy as a litre of oil in a battery of similar size. If you increase the size you increase the weight and if you increase the weight you need more energy to move the car. Also batteries take longer to recharge (fill) than putting petrol in a tank and generally have a limit on the number of times they can be charged and discharged. Improvements are being made but they will probably never be as convenient as using oil. Oil has great advantages and that is why it has been so widely used over the last 100 years. We have blown our one-off "inheritance" of oil to greatly increase the population and consume more stuff and now the inheritance is running out before we have invested enough for the future.

I agree we are "too busy supporting celebrities", our whole life style is based on increasing consumption and looking at celebrities. This WILL all change over the next few years whether or not we or they like it.

"We deserve what we get" agree and at the moment humanity is acting like a bunch of lemmings. I pretend by day that I am an average lemming and try to go along with the herd in order to get along. Like the rest of them, I keep burrowing like mad in hopes of obtaining a hollow form of prosperity. Of course it drives me mad to know I am just an average lemming and that soon the crazed dash for the cliffs will begin. But one can't speak of that in polite society. You'll be ostracized and lose your job. So I keep my mouth shut and my nose to the grindstone. I know I'm not the only one with these crazy thoughts that our society is not on "the right track" and that our train is chugging towards the edge. What can we do? You can make noises, talk to your friends, drop some hints about the situation, but not too overtly. Your fellow lemmings don't like to be lectured to.


The Oil Age is ending and there are no easy answers so very few want to face the problem. We have squandered the past and will continue to squander the future until many options are unattainable. without plentiful cheap oil the world cannot sustain 6.5+ billion people. The pain will be excruciating it is likely that billions will die before we can again have a sustainable world. Moaning about the cost of petrol will not change that.

Best hopes for a sustainable future because there is no other future.

I saw an interesting debate last night on TV about why oil prices are high. They said the current demand is 85.4 million barrels a day. But the current production is 85.4 million barrels a day (according to OPEC report).

The producers' cartel OPEC, who's purpose is to try and keep oil prices high as it favours profits, is telling us that OPEC alone can not keep up with the current demand. Which is fair enough.

But look again, the combination of poor performance from Russia and other non OPEC members and wars have disrupted the supplies and therefore forced the prices to go up.

Now bringing it back to home. The green tax (fuel duty) is partially subsidising wars meaning we as the motorist are helping to put up the oil prices indirectly.

Tonyw lets start from the beginning, do you not agree that the fuel duty is not necessary as it simply funds miss-managements and un-necessities.

The European Union, which we are a member of, agreed on a 17.5% tax rate throughout EU but none of the others are hitting motorists as hard as Britain. Surely, logically thinking, this is bad.

Whether the people actually do something about it is another very sad matter but looking at what they are doing to the motorist in the name of "good intentions" is simply misguiding the general public.

The current Labour Government needs to go, hopefully we can do that at the next Election. We also need at huge reduction on the price of tax we pay per litre of fuel. We get shafted from all angles, road tax.. the roads are pathetic.
I work for the emergency services, i work 4 12hr shifts. leaving at times when there is no viable public transport available, i'd love to leave my car at home, but it simply isnt possible. Right now im doing my bit to save diesel costs, walking the kids to school etc. I check here and ring round local garages before i leave to fill my tank up. Another point that may help some folks is Tesco quite often gives you 5p a litre off fuel when you spend £50 or more on groceries, if you time filling up to coincide with your weekly shop, you can save some cash.
I've found the smaller independent filling stations tend to be more expensive. I can get Diesel from my local Jet Garage for £116.9 a litre, a private station, no more than 500 yards up the road charges £126.9 per litre..

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Hi Jon Paul post #50,
"However I'm sure BP or such have just found a massive Oil reserve underground somewhere in the world,

so not really a problem for now is it?" ROTFLOL BP or such somewhere - yeah sure and it will be run

by fairies and pixies.

You might be thinking about the recent bit of share pumping by the Brazilian oil guy talking about the

Carioca field that was quickly slapped down, so here are some facts to entertain you:

Tapping this oil will require equipment that can withstand 18,000 pounds per square inch of pressure

and pump oil at 260C - this equipment has not yet been invented. Until then it is the oil will remain

locked under the sea. Pumping oil from the field, parts of which are 32,000 feet (10,000 meters) below

the ocean's surface, will require drilling almost twice as far down as the world's deepest producing

offshore well. Engineers will have to overcome temperatures that range from 260C to near freezing

above the ocean floor. Exxon Mobil abandoned a Gulf of Mexico project that would have been the deepest

well after pressure and heat shut down the venture in August 2006.

Layers of salt rock will also increase the challenge because the crystals absorb seismic waves used to

pinpoint oil deposits. If you can't identify the location of the oil properly, you're going to waste a

LOT of money when you drill the hole in the wrong spot. Similar drilling by Exxon and Chevron in the

Gulf of Mexico cost $180 million to $200 million for EACH well.


Electricity production, now I completely agree with you that we need to quickly switch our production

from gas since it is running out and causing Climate Catastrophe which together with Peak Oil are the

two greatest problems we have. Either of them has the potential to destroy civilization and both seem

to be happening around the same time so we have to try and get it sorted now even if our so called

"leaders" are asleep on the job.


Electricity is needed for civilization to function, e.g. pump water and sewage just to name two. We

could survive with reduced oil but not with greatly reduced electricity. The research and

implementation of tidal and all other renewables needs to be ramped up, we don't need more media

studies graduates but more scientists and engineers working on this.

A billion for the Bristol barrage - peanuts let's do it now. Gordon Clown has very kindly
quadrupled Britain's aid budget from £2.1 billion in 1997 to nearly £9.1 by 2011 he's very generous

with OUR money.

We can't afford to let nimbys prevent on-shore wind farms just so their views can be preserved. We

need the lights to stay on. Off-shore costs much more and takes much longer to build and repair.

RE:51
You forgot to mention that drilling under those extreme conditions also b ggers up the diamond drill bits.
Never mind, there will be a technofix invented shortly....
RE:52
The USA is not quite the motoring paradise you make out, they face exactly the same depletion problems we all do, sadly their answer is not to invest in renewables, but to insist that it is 'their' oil under other peoples sand very forcibly. Add to this a financial meltdown on a scale not yet fully realised, a bolshy 'Don't mess with the American Way Of Life' attitude from the majority of the population, the mass growing of biofuels on food producing land to feed their unhealthy obsession with cars and you don't get a pretty picture, oh, and let's not leave out the 'terrorist' threat nonsense.

Actually, not that different here is it?

Reply to "Peak Oil.

What a silly little a@sehole you are....we live in the real world not you

Re: 54
"What a silly little a@sehole you are....we live in the real world not you"

Yes, it's clear that you have a grasp of the complexities involved in Peak Oil, your cogent analysis shows a deep understanding of it's implications:

Increasingly chaotic financial markets

Aggressive pursuit of remaining deposits of fossil fuels, fuelled by sovereign states taking control of national reserves, or simply decioding to trade in euros not dollars

Increasing control of populations by central Governments (Heavy taxation is the tip of the iceberg)

Food shortages with rising costs

Water shortages with rising costs

Increasing civil disturbance, such as some of the suggestions on this forum actually being carried out, or think of what happened after the last fuel uprising, leading to agressive legislation - see increasing control of populations above(Those anti-terrorism laws aren't really if you care to study them, they are about locking ANYONE up)

Rising costs of energy supplies

and so on, clever of you to have spotted that ALL of the above is happening now to some degree or another, not in some projected future, and all are symptoms of Peak Oil.

Frankly, I am surprised you didn't suggest, as Peak Oil (The poster) has, that it is a good time to take sensible precautions to protect yourself and your family, including:

"Find local employment. Reduce your debts. Reduce your fuel consumption. Grow your own vegetables or buy from local suppliers. Exercise regularly. Insulate your home."

After all, this is perfectly sound advice whether you subscribe to Peak Oil or not, nothing to lose, everything to gain. Rely on yourself and your neighbours, not Government. Government does not have your best interests at heart.

BTPO yes, despite just before the local Elections forcing the so called independent Bank of England to publish the spin that the losses in the financial sector will prove to overstated and that from here we should expect some improvement they still got a kicking.

Don't worry the Liberals only picked up a tiny percentage.

Now how about banning Brown and his Darling from every pub in the land to show them how we feel? OK, I know they probably don't go their local but the knowledge that they couldn't stage any more photo shoots would be good.

No one posts here unless they have concerns about fuel, whether that is purely about price and taxation, or more serious future concerns.
That being so, here is an MP sticking his head up above the wall and doing something about it.
Not all politicians are lying, sanctimonious, self serving backstabbing barstewards.

Write or e-mail your MP asking them to support this motion, reproduced below.

Early Day Motion
EDM 1453 ENERGY AND FOOD PRICES AND PEAK OIL29.04.2008


Hemming, John
That this House notes that current movements in energy and food prices are in conformance with the predictions as to what would happen as oil production peaks; and calls for the Government urgently to review its predictions as to when peak oil occurs with a view to determining whether or not urgent policy adjustments are called for.



Damn right policy adjustments are called for!

Noticed that the blockade at stanlow only got 10 seconds of coverage on local news this morning.

Re: 63

Changing things for a week will have no effect.
Fundamental changes to the way we organise our own lives are the only things that will.

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Re 65

Try visiting powerswitch, put three w's in front of that, plus a full stop of course, and the d ot co m to follow, the discussion there is more informed.