09.12.07 Petrol price protests planned for this Wednesday

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Do you think the government should have acted before these protests?


UPDATE: Transaction 2007 have announced a firm date for the protest - Saturday 15th December 2007 at 10:00am. They say the date was decided by members as "the best possible to enable those who would normally be working during the week to attend." According to a press release on the site, they plan to protest outside refineries or storage depots across the country.

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A group called Transaction 2007 is planning a "nationwide legal protest" this Wednesday.

You might remember the fuel protest of 2000 which initially gathered strong support from motorists. However, that support quickly turned when many motorists were prevented from filling up because of lorry blockades.

PetrolPrices.com expressed to the organisers that they may find public support for another fuel protest providing it was properly planned to be legal and orderly. So far, the Transaction 2007 organisers have been unwilling to confirm to us specifically what action they have planned for this week. When we pressed the group's spokesman, Chris Hunter, he said "This will be a numbers game levied against legislation. I can comment no further."

With fuel breaking well beyond the £1 barrier, PetrolPrices.com has had a huge rise in the number of emails from concerned motorists. People were especially angry following the last fuel duty hike imposed by the Government in October. Despite being made aware of the huge resistance from motorists, the Government pushed ahead with the 2p duty increase, leaving the public frustrated and angry. Over 80,000 people had voted against the tax hike on our blog post.

The protests of 2000 achieved some success in that the fuel duty escalator was frozen. However, it has now resumed and with the rising price of oil motorists are paying ever increasing taxation due to VAT on fuel. Unlike fuel duty which is fixed, VAT is charged at 17.5%, so for every 1p increase in the price of fuel, we are actually paying an extra 1.175p.

We'd love to hear what you think. How have the tax and oil price rises affected you? Will you be forced to tighten your belt this Christmas as a result?

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About time too!! I was wondering when the oppressed general public would start to "bark". Around my area, I have seen petrol at around £1.09 and diesel as high as £1.11. Even my commute to work via motorcycle has gone up and that is on a vehicle that does 50 mpg. Like countless others who have commented, I live in the country and as usual we bear the brunt of fuel cost rises, because we have no alternative, to the car. Our roads are some of the worst maintained in the UK, our public transport system is hopeless. Especially if you live outside of a town or in a rural village and our living costs are higher. If fuel duty carries on rising as it has, this will bring nothing but severe hardship, to those who can least afford it. IE The ordinary working man and woman, who are about to see the mortgage rate rise due to the sub prime collapse in the US, food bills rise due to increased transport costs and home fuel bills rise, due to shortages in the supply chain (engineered or otherwise)
What we are seeing is the cost of this governments profligate spending and severe waste,in all aspects of the public sector. Allied to the costs of the alleged "war on terror" and the extra expenses incurred by our social and health services in dealing with the influx of economic migrants, which is far and above the estimates originally given. The massive drop in revenues from smokers and the allied falls in profits from pubs, thus leading to less taxable wet sales is also straining the chancellors already overstretched purse and has to be recouped from somewhere, thus the continuing rise in fuel duty.
As much as I fully support any protest against the rises, i fear that unless the causes are dealt with, the government will continue as before to use the motorist as a cash cow, to be milked at every opportunity...

Posted by Ian Woolger, 10th December 2007 8:13pm

TO ALL OF THE SHEEPLE OUT THERE

THIS SHOULD HELP TO EXPLAIN THINGS

Peak oil is the point at which the maximum global petroleum production rate is reached, after which the rate of production enters its terminal decline. If global consumption is not mitigated before the peak, the availability of conventional oil will drop and prices will rise, perhaps dramatically.

M. King Hubbert first used the theory in 1956 to accurately predict that United States oil production would peak between 1965 and 1970. His model, now called Hubbert peak theory, has since been used to predict the peak petroleum production of many other countries, and has also proved useful in other limited-resource production-domains.

According to the Hubbert model, the production rate of a limited resource will follow a roughly symmetrical bell-shaped curve based on the limits of exploitability and market pressures.

Some observers, such as petroleum industry experts Kenneth S. Deffeyes and Matthew Simmons, believe the high dependence of most modern industrial transport, agricultural and industrial systems on the relative low cost and high availability of oil will cause the post-peak production decline and possible severe increases in the price of oil to have negative implications for the global economy. Although predictions as to what exactly these negative effects will be vary greatly, "a growing number of oil-industry chieftains are endorsing an idea long deemed fringe: The world is approaching a practical limit to the number of barrels of crude oil that can be pumped every day."

If political and economic change only occur in reaction to high prices and shortages rather than in reaction to the threat of a peak, then the degree of economic damage to importing countries will largely depend on how rapidly oil imports decline post-peak.

The Export Land Model shows that the amount of oil available internationally drops much more quickly than production in exporting countries because the exporting countries maintain an internal growth in demand. Shortfalls in production (and therefore supply) would cause extreme price inflation, unless demand is mitigated with planned conservation measures and use of alternatives, which would need to be implemented 20 years before the peak.

Liberal estimations of peak production forecast a peak will happen in 2020 - 2030 and assume major investments in alternatives will occur before a crisis. These models show the price of oil at first escalating and then retreating as other types of fuel and energy sources are used.

Conservative predictions of future oil production operate on the thesis that the peak has already occurred or will occur shortly and, as proactive mitigation may no longer be an option, predict a global depression, perhaps even initiating a chain reaction of the various feedback mechanisms in the global market which would stimulate a collapse of global industrial civilization.

PEAK OIL IS HERE TO STAY. GET USED TO IT. USE LESS FUEL.

TO LEARN MORE SEARCH THE INTERNET FOR 'PEAK OIL'.

Posted by Neil, 10th December 2007 8:13pm

Tax hmm

As the UK is one of the most highest taxed countries in the word, would you like to know just how much tax is collected and what happens to it???

Posted by Andy Capp, 10th December 2007 8:14pm

Although crude oil prices are higher than ever, it seems clear that when when the pound reverts to a lower dollar rate, this may be the next trigger for a colossal increase in fuel prices.
Existing revenues are too high considering the finances raised are frittered within the current beaurocratic system of Government.
If as much importance was given to the ever increasing burdon of cost to the motorist as is given by The Bank Of England whenever a 0.25% increase is called, fuel prices would be far more reasonable.
The Government are simply in need of feeding the financial haemorrhage. The motorists' voice must be heard - press on with the protest!

Posted by Jim Whitehorn, 10th December 2007 8:14pm

Well done. This government is fueled by greed and has very little bother about the working class person.

Posted by Jimmy Wills, 10th December 2007 8:15pm

Glad to hear another protest is being organised, provided of course that all essential vehicles (999) can still get fuel, well behind the blockage.

Posted by Neil Ware, 10th December 2007 8:15pm

As Pensioners both my Wife and i find it more and more expensive to visit our Daughters and Grandchildren due to the escalating costs of fuel.It is time the goverment took a long hard look at what they are doing,putting companies out of business,increasing consumer costs,due to increasing fuel costs.we have just returned from a holiday in Lanzarote and we were suprised how much ceaper fuel was there,as it is in Spain.The tax that the Goverment are taking should benifit motorists,and not go to funding a War that the majority of us did not want.Well done Transaction you have our support.
Posted by Roderick Green, 10th December 2007 8:12pm

As pensioners you get free bus travel - and massive discounts on coach and train travel -thanks to G Brown - you have no reason to use a car

Posted by M Dean, 10th December 2007 8:15pm

Oil is expensive and running quicker than they are letting on. Get used to higher and higher priices with inceasing demands on a reducing source with the devloping world superpowers-in-waiting of India and China. Todays prices and availaibility will seem like a dream in a few years!

Posted by Julian Vantienhoven, 10th December 2007 8:15pm

If/when what will actually be tiny minority of you and others do go out protesting I promise I'll be sat in my nice warm house laughing at you.

Posted by Enjoyingthefun, 10th December 2007 8:15pm

I've just had to sell my Nissan Skyline due to the fuel prices,as i was spending nearly £400 a month on fuel!! I now own a Peugeot 106 diesel,and i hate this goverment.Anything that people can do to bring the cost of fuel back to a reasonable level is to be supported.

Posted by Mark Tomkins, 10th December 2007 8:16pm

And about time too. We have conned for too long. Oil prices may be at their highest level ever, but so is the exchange rate against the dollar - which should be making it cheaper.
The oil companies and politicians are just riding rough shod as usual!

Posted by Kevin Langan, 10th December 2007 8:16pm

if we all stopped buying diesel, and all started buying biodiesel as this is a cheaper way,its a same theres not more stations selling it , i bet if a private petrol station in coventry started selling bio there would be a queue all the time,

Posted by Gary Hampton, 10th December 2007 8:17pm

Because of the amount of petrol I go through just on short journeys to and from work, I have been toying with selling my car to save the money I seem to be constantly forking out. Petrol prices continue to rise in this country so therefore we get far less for our money.

I go on pension in a few weeks time and would rather catch buses free of charge or better still walk, get the excercise and have extra cash in my pocket.

Posted by Linda Mcleod, 10th December 2007 8:18pm

What amazes me is they keep telling us that the pound is worth over $2. So surely that should make fuel cheaper and not dearer. The government is quite obviously trying to force people off of the road but not giving them another option. I cannot get to work by public transport so I would have to give up my job and claim benefits which I am sure would make the government very happy.


Les

Posted by Les Bailey, 10th December 2007 8:19pm

just like to say when are the goverment going to realise that the ordinary person does not see thier car as a luxuary but as a necesaty to get to and from work and as a hgv driver i also need fuel prices to be realistic so that i can afford to get to work at a time when so called public transport does not run and my employer can afford to keep in buisness so lets all let the goverment know we have had enough

Posted by Kenneth Reid, 10th December 2007 8:19pm

This comment has been removed as it was found to be in breach of our Blog Policies.

Except the price of vege oil is creeping up extremely quickly and will be at, or more than, the rate of diesel very shortly. Has anyone (besides a tiny minority) here actually engaged thier brains before posting hysterical comments?

Posted by Stilllaughing@yahoomail.dogdo, 10th December 2007 8:20pm

I 100% support any fuel protests that are going to happen this Wednesday.

Posted by David Moss, 10th December 2007 8:21pm

I live in Nottingham and there is a Storage Depot at Colwick. Will anybody else be there on Saturday?

Posted by Graham Harris, 10th December 2007 8:21pm

cant wait till hydrogen cell cars are made.

run on tap water.


but then tap water will shoot up.....

no win situation

STILL HAVE TO HAVE A JOB THOUGH TO PAY FOR IT...

Posted by Phil_gt, 10th December 2007 8:21pm

About time cut the tax, stop aid to Sudan to recoup short falls perhaps ?

Posted by Gary Aldridge, 10th December 2007 8:22pm

My recollection of the last petrol price protest was that the organisers
completely ignored the needs of the ambulance service and other
important public services. They are irresponsible, selfish meddlers.

Don't they realise that OPEC control most of the worlds' oil supplies. Most
motorists can afford the increase and I don't see any decrease in the
number of large lorries despite the cry that the haulage firms were going
bankrupt.

Posted by Geoff Griffiths, 10th December 2007 8:22pm

Dear Mr Brown, I soon have to give up my job as I need to use my car everyday to do it, so please could you let me know as soon as possible when my council flat will be ready, as once I cant afford to work, I wont be able to afford my mortgage,and also, could you let me know how much income support you will be giving me for food, bills etc. Im sorry I wont be able to support you any longer with my tax payments to you,youve just about bled me dry,lots of love and happy xmas, lucky Santas sled dosent run on fuel.

Posted by Tyrone Bell, 10th December 2007 8:22pm

I work for a large haulage firm and find it frightening how many hauliers and coach operators are going to the wall both big and small. Their will most certainly be knock on inflationary increases in the almost every sector of the economy. In our industry we suffer also because of unfair competition from European based companies coming to England and using our infrastructure running on cheap home bought fuel. Some of these vehicles can be legally modified to carry over 1000 litres. Faced with this we cant compete.

The potential for further hikes loom large when you consider we are experiencing a period of relative calm with Afghanistan and Iraq simmering and no major terrorist actvity of late. Heightening tensions anywhere would exert further upward preesure on fuel costs. Also the strong pound has been credited for keeping the price lower as oil is traded in the once mighty dollar. Market factors of late are predicted in some media as weakening the pound resulting in upward pressure on fuel again. Severe cold here or in the States would do the same.

It is a really glum picture, i think ultimately we need to rid ourselves of this government at the first chance. The failure to halt the fuel escalator show their utter disdain for public opinion. I support Direct action against the government they need to wake up and understand the anger of those who put them in power.

Posted by James Chambers, 10th December 2007 8:23pm

"What amazes me is they keep telling us that the pound is worth over $2. So surely that should make fuel cheaper and not dearer. The government is quite obviously trying to force people off of the road but not giving them another option. I cannot get to work by public transport so I would have to give up my job and claim benefits which I am sure would make the government very happy.


Les"


And what amazes me is that you didn't know we got crude from the North Sea.

Posted by Bioblog, 10th December 2007 8:23pm

I suppose the next thing will be an announcement by the oil companies of the massive profits they have made, which also underlines the fact that they are also charging higher prices over and above the extra they are paying to
O.P.E.C. etc. Of course the government will probably say they are slapping a "windfall tax" on the profits hoping that the motoring public will be satisfied that the oil companies are being penalised, this gives the chancellor even more income on top of the extra V.A.T. & the oil companies still go away rubbing their hands with glee. During the second world war there was a criminal offence called "PROFITEERING". I wonder was this ever removed from the statute books. WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS AN EXTREMELY GREEDY GOVERNMENT.

Posted by Noel Thompson, 10th December 2007 8:23pm

It's getting totally out of hand.
Diesel near where I live, is now £1.20/litre!

Posted by John Graham, 10th December 2007 8:23pm

Yes, go for it, we might all suffer in the short term, but hopefully be the winners in the long term. We might not like the Frenchies, but they do seem to get it right when it comes to voting with their feet !!!! We just sit back and take it, with a sigh and a groan.

Posted by Nigel Armitage, 10th December 2007 8:24pm

Also in the news this week "Golden handshakes for councillors who lose their seats". Ooops - if petrol taxes are lowered, our dear Chancellor will have to find other ways to extract money from our pockets to pay these poor souls!

Posted by Marksmom, 10th December 2007 8:24pm

See what you think and pass it on if you agree with it

We are hitting 106.9 p a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying £1.10 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain

day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil

companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't

continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of >an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT,whoever
thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take
a aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place
not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we
consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the
price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not
purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting
ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.


If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's
really simple to do!!

Now, don't wimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to
at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at
least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the
message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached
over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and
pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... ..

THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and
not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us
sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt,
all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the
next 8 days!!! Acting together we can make a difference If this makes
sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE
RANGE

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your
petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. I.e.
boycott BP and Esso

Posted by Rob Riddell, 10th December 2007 8:24pm

What is Peak Oil?

Peak oil refers to a time when global oil production will no longer be able to continue to expand and available production volumes will stagnate or begin to decline each year due to lack of suffcient supplies. The vast majority of the worlds expert agree this will happen the only question is when. Opinions on the timing of the peak range from NOW until after 2030.

Why is This Important?

Oil is the most important energy source in the world. It powers 90% of all transport including cars, planes, trucks and trains. It is also used in many industrial applications and in the production of agricultural products.

Because this resource is so important to the modern industrial economy, minor disruptions can cause a rapid increase in price. For example, In the 1979 oil shock a 5% decrease in the supply of oil caused a 400% increase in the price. This causes inflation to rise, which leads to higher interest rates and, possibly, economic recession, job losses, falling share prices and property prices. A recent study concluded a 4% decline in the supply of oil would see the price of oil increase to $160 a barrel. Peak Oil advocates argue we could be facing a 2-4% fall in supplies every year, leading to oil prices of $300 a barrel or more. This would send the price of gasoline in the US to over $10 a gallon, crippling the car defendant culture of the United States and sending the world into a deep depression.When Will This Happen?

The exact timing is not important, what is important is global oil production appears to be struggling NOW and has been for the last 3 years. The chart above shows the official crude oil production figures and clearly shows world production is not increasing despite the rapid increase in price. This lack of new production in the face of increasing demand is the primary reason oil is approaching $100 a barrel. Looking at the most recent data, it seems that Peak Oil is likely to occur within the next five to seven years.

STOP WHINGING ABOUT FUEL PRICES.

GET USED TO HIGHER ENERGY COSTS.

FIND OUT ABOUT PEAK OIL NOW.

Posted by Dai, 10th December 2007 8:25pm

"My recollection of the last petrol price protest was that the organisers
completely ignored the needs of the ambulance service and other
important public services. They are irresponsible, selfish meddlers.

Don't they realise that OPEC control most of the worlds' oil supplies. Most
motorists can afford the increase and I don't see any decrease in the
number of large lorries despite the cry that the haulage firms were going
bankrupt. "

Wise words, nice to find someone with a brain on here at last. The hauliers also seem to have forgotten to mention they had massive cuts in road tax costs too.

Posted by Blogblog, 10th December 2007 8:25pm

I definately agree something has to be done about the price of fuel, a protest may show that we as a public are unhappy about the current cost, but surely the government know this, but just dont seem to follow what the public, ie u and me want, they are doing what they want and whatever they need to do to raise that little bit more cash to give to people whom i beleive dont need or indeed deserve it! but i wont go into that argument.
Fuel will always be more than in the states, however, this huge current diffrence in price is ridiculous.....but as usual, the governing body of this country doesnt listen.
I dont see a way out of it!
mr priminister,
cut tax to get fuel back to 90 or 95 p/litre (diesel and petrol) ....why is there a diffrence in price here anyway? help the country, dont disable it!
erm, thanks for reading!
stoo!

Posted by Stuart Lester, 10th December 2007 8:25pm

We need the help as fuel bills excalate thus the cost of everything is going up and we are finding it harder to make ends meet meanwhile the vat on fuels means they get more in their pocket and we get less

Posted by David Brooks, 10th December 2007 8:26pm

The proper way to sort this out is through the ballot box. If you believe in this either lobby a political party to adopt it as policy or stand for election yourselves.

And don't come the "politicians are not the answer." In a democracy you get the politicians you deserve.

Put up or shut up.

Posted by Graham Big, 10th December 2007 8:26pm

I run a car and a van so it's a double whammy for me. As I have said before, it's good old rip-off britain. Imagine what the French would do, like em or not, they certainly show their disproval in numbers when they dont like what their government tries to rip them off.

Posted by Joe Duffy, 10th December 2007 8:27pm

WHY ARE WE BEING TAXED TO THE LIMIT TO BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK. WE ALL NEED TO USE A VEHICLES FOR EVERYDAY NEEDS AND THIS IS RESTRICTING MY JOY.

Posted by Robert Yohe, 10th December 2007 8:27pm

It's time we all said 'no' to fuel price rises. If the message 'NO More Fuel Rises' gets to all citizens in the UK and we all protest about the ridiculous high price paid for fuel the government will have to take notice. Also, boycott the big fuel companies such as BP and Shell etc, hit them in the pocket hard, they will soon drop the price.
I'm disabled, I can't afford to pay more.

Posted by Paul Marsden, 10th December 2007 8:28pm

I am a 'youngish' farmer with a wife and two little kids. Our farm is quite remote with NO means of public transport. Our nearest village and bust stop is 4 miles away and the nearest petrol is station is 6 miles. How can we survive???? We have a small farm and this is one of our worst trading years ever....due to Foot and Mouth disease from a Government funded lab!!! Then they hike up the duty on fuel and expect us to roll over and accept it. They should be happy enough making a profit off the actual rise in oil prices alone. This will affect EVERY person in the country. We will ALL end up paying more for the basic provisions in life. Bring on the protest...Let's make everyone aware of what this Government is doing to OUR country and OUR society.









Posted by Andrew, 10th December 2007 8:29pm

Attn James Chambers: had you forgotten to tell us of the massive road tax cuts you truckers got and the fact quite a few British hauliers reg'd their companies abroad to save themselves money? You probably are precahing to the converted to most of the loons on here but don't assume everyone falls for your hard done to act or believes everything you say.

Posted by Tepeformybunghole, 10th December 2007 8:29pm

The price of a barrel of oil reached $99 (dollars) some two weeks ago, although it has recently tailed off to slightly below $90 - given the steady increase in oil over the last 8 months it was highly likely that it was going to impact on the pump price at your local petrol garage. That said, oil is purchased months in advance and, as usual, it seems like the big oil players are milking the motorist for all they are worth along with the UK government. If the price of a barrel drops why doesn't it filter through to the petro pump? As for government tax on fuel....... everyone of us gets hit by this government's tax on fuel. It is too high and I would suggest the Brown government takes note - 2008 is going to be a bumby ride for Mr Brown and his government.

Posted by Ed Hall, 10th December 2007 8:29pm

My message is simple. The last big protest got some action so why has it not been repeated. There is another increase due in April 2008 so lets hope large numbers of people will support any futureaction.

An unhappy pensioner

J Macnamara

Posted by Jim Macnamara, 10th December 2007 8:30pm

What is this government doing, Andrew? What it was elected to do that's what. Quit your whinging. If it's that important stand for parliament and see if people vote for you.

Put up or shut up.

Posted by Graham Big, 10th December 2007 8:30pm

we need fuel the government needs tax even if we removed the government it will only be replaced by another government who will tax us to the hilt so whats the point, l look to cut my bills elsewhere to counter out fuel increases as l need fuel to work until someone comes up with an engine that runs on water or electric car can do 300 miles on single charge then we are stuffed

Posted by Dennis Tabrett, 10th December 2007 8:30pm

Firstly, I blame everyone of us for the fuel price increase, because we dont do anything about it, if we all stuck together and do something, how can the government WIN! Its about time there were STRONG protests and like one of the members said above, we should target the MP's (LABOUR MP'S). Labour are maniacs running his country, soon they will be taxing the AIR we breath.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! Down with GORDON BROWN, hes just the brown stuff, we dont need him.

Posted by Hardeep Sehmi, 10th December 2007 8:31pm

i have a mobility car and i think i will have to hand it back because i'm disabled and retired and the price of fuel is driving me of the road and my pension is not enough to keep the car as this is the only way for me to get about that mean i'll be more or less locked at home so i hope they do protest in some way even if it mean blockades

Posted by Walter Weir, 10th December 2007 8:32pm

About time this wasteful and wretched government is made aware how ordinary people are being badly hurt by these hikes in prices.

I feel sorry for ordinary people like Pensioners and ordinary working people who need their cars for shift work-nurses and those in the retail trade.

Enough is enough.!!!

Posted by Cllr Paul Findlow, 10th December 2007 8:32pm

As i am a hgv driver the price of fuel effect's me in more than one way, the price of fuel plays apart in the pricing of transport and haulage rates which in turn restricts my earnings as well as putting up the price of the goods i carry, and as i can in part control my start time i can not always predict my finishing time so public transport is out of the question so i have to use my car to get to work, what is he doing trying to claw back the revenue he is loosing from people stopping smoking, just taking the captive public for an expensive ride

Posted by Trevor Shepherd, 10th December 2007 8:32pm

WHY CAN'T THIS GOVERMENT PAY BACK THE EXTRA REVENUE THAT THEY ARE GETTING FROM THE EXTRA V.A.T. TO US MOTORIST, BY CUTTING THE HEFTY TAX

Posted by John Sims, 10th December 2007 8:33pm

About time this burke at No. 10 took notice of the road users, all they think about is taxing the backside off the hauliers and car drivers. They love to boast about giving us a 1p in the £ tax cut, but then raise indirect taxes for fuel by 500%.

It needs more than just the haulierers to protest, we need a nationwide day of action in the form of either no-one goes to work for 24 hours, or we all leave our cars at home and overwhelm public transport.

The government are obsessed with making the road users life a misery. Also the additional taxes and price hikes in fuel ends up costing the consumer more for the goods we buy.

Posted by Alan Collins, 10th December 2007 8:33pm

Excellent I am a taxi driver and I wish the price of the fair went up as quickly as the price of fuel, its killing us now and is totally unfair. Its worth losing out on a weeks work if its going to make a difference.

Hope all goes well

Posted by Chris Loxley, 10th December 2007 8:34pm

Born Free, Taxed To Death, pretty much sums up the Not-So-Great Britain for the indigenous white middle class working tax payers of this failing country. We've got a Government happy to pay the upkeep of asylum seekers we have no space nor money for. Reward them with more money when they breed. We're told we need more houses built on our diminishing green land, although they don't admit its because of the global trash they import into this once proud land. And who's paying for this blundering? YOU ARE. We already know the ever increasing Road Tax rarely goes back into transport. There's no public transport alternative for most people, including me, and when there is its dirty, expensive, and extremely time consuming. An otherwise half hour car drive will take at least 2 hours if doing it by public transport. And don't be told differently, I've done it. Good grief, what an experience! How is it we pay excessive tax for our fuel and not the standard rate of VAT? Why are we so persecuted by our own elected Government? They should be controlling the ever spiralling cost of living. They should help us to move around to do our work and live our lives. As it is, there's a vast number of people I know and have worked with who have had enough and have or are in the process of emigrating. Those that can are getting out of this worsening country. For those that stay are going to be left with painful taxation and total lawlessness. Well ok, we're almost there already.

Posted by Dougal Pookey, 10th December 2007 8:34pm

"am a 'youngish' farmer with a wife and two little kids. Our farm is quite remote with NO means of public transport. Our nearest village and bust stop is 4 miles away and the nearest petrol is station is 6 miles. How can we survive???? We have a small farm and this is one of our worst trading years ever....due to Foot and Mouth disease from a Government funded lab!!! Then they hike up the duty on fuel and expect us to roll over and accept it. They should be happy enough making a profit off the actual rise in oil prices alone. This will affect EVERY person in the country. We will ALL end up paying more for the basic provisions in life. Bring on the protest...Let's make everyone aware of what this Government is doing to OUR country and OUR society."


As opposed to the last few times diseases have been spread between farms deliberately by farmers to get even more handouts? The farmers are the biggest bunch of whining t*ss*rs in this country and think how much we'd save if we weren't forever doling out money to them in handouts. I truly, truly truly hope your poxy farm goes bust and plenty of others too. As you're struggling so much you won't actually be able to get to the protests will you, you sponging moron?

Posted by Farmersarespongers, 10th December 2007 8:35pm

I am a disabled driver and rely on my car to get around,
I get my car on Motorbility and I only live on benifits if the prices keep on rising as they are my car will be on the drive and that I will be housebound again so were is the benifit for disable people who are in the same predicement as myself.
I agree stop prices rising and bring petrol prices down.

Posted by David Wakelam, 10th December 2007 8:35pm

I find the whole scenario farcical about the price of fuel to be perfectly honest. The powers that be aren't going to do a thing to help out the motorist because of the revenue it's raising for them and i think it is about time that Joe Public made a stand against this totalitarian regime. They've had it too good for way too long and i for one am totally p***ed of with being completely ripped off every time i take my wallet out of my pocket. It's the same with the Government forcing people to give up smoking, but if every smoker gave up at the same time where do ya think they'd get all that tax from that they've just lost. They'd probably stick another 50p on petrol to make up for it.

Posted by Roger Philpott, 10th December 2007 8:35pm

About time some action was taken,as a small business it is now costing £10 more to fill up than two months ago.Which means even less profits.this goverment will put us all out of business.

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Posted by Peakoil, 10th December 2007 8:38pm

Fantastic - about time too! - i am constantly fighting to use the car less but living in a rural area and with 4 kids to transport about - im ready to show my support.

Posted by Roxy Darling, 10th December 2007 8:38pm

At long last i was wondering when the protest would start,the £1 mark is a joke.Another increase when i for one sign the petition NOT to increase on fuel,what happens 2p hiked on.We keep getting the green tax rammed down our throats...............mmmmm wonder why the yanks are stilling driving there 4 litre gas machines?????I know we still pay for the green tax make an impression on the planet and let the big USA do nothing does this make any sense????Welcome to rip off Britain!!!!

Posted by Neil Ellis, 10th December 2007 8:38pm

i work 25 miles away from home. so i cover 50 miles a day 250 on a week around a tank of fuel just to go to and come from work. this means around 50 a week spent on fuel over the year its 2600 no wonder this country is crumbling into debt. i do understand i live a lot further away from work than most. but it is what was available for me and allows me to do what i have wanted to do all my life. im an apprentice motor mechanic with my own family now this just makes it even harder for me to make ends meet. i dont want to become a scrounger im proud that im supporting myself but soon i wont be able to and may end up being a benefit scrounging "doley"

Posted by Gareth Edwards, 10th December 2007 8:38pm

THIS TIME WE MUST MAKE A STAND THAT WILL CAUSE AN IMPACT THAT GOVERMENTS WILL NOT FORGET. SAVES DOING IT ALL TWICE.

TAXES IN GENERAL HAVE GOT TO BE SORTED WE HAVE STELF TAX ON STELF TAX.

Posted by Don Plimsoll, 10th December 2007 8:38pm

I've not read some of the latest blogs but what i find absolutely infuriating is the fact that for so long the petrol and especially Diesel seemed to hang around the £1 per litre mark, then all of a sudden its a free for all, with filling stations asking for anything, Some are now over the £1.10 barrier. At this rate we'll hit £2 a litre by the end of next year its a scandal

Posted by Mat Hanks, 10th December 2007 8:39pm

About time!!! Having seen the fuel cost escalate.....some 10p in 3 months, I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Working in a petrol station, constantly bombarded with ''It's so expensive!'' Let's hope the Government react a bit faster than they did in 2000. Roll on Saturday......

Posted by J. Smith, 10th December 2007 8:39pm

Prices although taxed heavily are reliant on supply,and reserves, therefore to actually lower the price of petrol/diesel we need to target suppliers, ie the oil producing countries,and the most efficient way to do that is stop buying it. Oil like everything else has a shelve life and just like the food in the supermarkets if it doesnt sell then the seller reduces the price, and keeps on reducing until it is sold,just one or two days of nobody buying fuel would be enough to send a very real message to oil companies. When the "contaminated fuel scare" happened fuel prices dropped by 4p a litre,and that was only caused by 5% of petrol suppliers, just think what we could achieve if we boycotted 25% of suppliers or even better 50%.

Posted by John O'boyle, 10th December 2007 8:40pm

well done, about time we took some action!! let us know where the protests are to be and we will be there.

Posted by Paul Macdonald, 10th December 2007 8:41pm

As there is no actual shortage of fuel yet, it is just the fear factor in the markets that are driving up the cost. So have a go at the refiners and the oil companies who are laughing all the way to the bank.

Certainly my next car will be a diesel so I get 50mpg instead of the 35 or so with a petrol vehicle.

Posted by David Brede, 10th December 2007 8:42pm

same here david

Posted by Phil_gt, 10th December 2007 8:42pm

Just who is it who is mugging the consumer, we know the government is a big player, but until diesel came close to the £1 a litre, there was always a reasonable gap of 4 oo 5 pence between petrol & diesel. Suddenly that gap closed off to within 1p, now we are past the £1 a litre, that gap is back!!!!! It's not just the government, everyone is ripping off the motorist & we need to show we know it!

Posted by Pete Campbell, 10th December 2007 8:43pm

Great, and about time too. The motorists in this country have ALWAYS been ripped off for far too long. If it's not the POLICE it's the bloody GOVERNMENT always bleeding the poor motorist's dry. We have had enough and anything to make MR BROWN see sense I am in total agreement. After all, what do they do with all this money they are getting from us? It must be going into someones back pocket I think! Why is it so much cheaper in EUROPE? They would not stand for it and we will not either. Come on all you motorists out there, let us all get behind this group and tell this GOVERNMENT we have had enough, we will not stand for it any longer, YOU have ripped us off enough. And if they don't well, come the next ELECTION.

Posted by Charles P Beavis, 10th December 2007 8:43pm

I have to email again. I have been reading some of your "opinions" and it leaves me almost speachless to read that some of you agree with the fuel hikes. Now let me make my point clear....I understand that oil is a limited source so ultimately it will rise in price.....I can just about live with that. It's the Government increasing the TAX on the fuel that really upsets me. What and why would we take our argument to OPEC??? Brown & Co Ltd are soley responsible for the crippling of this nation. I have two options.... keep buying extortionate fuel and try and keep the farm going or go bankrupt sign on the dole and live off the state and be MUCH better off than I am just now. Gordon Brown get this sorted or the country will come to a stand still.....with or without a fuel protest.

Posted by Andrew, 10th December 2007 8:44pm

And about time too, a fuel protest is long over due. This communist, rip off British government have taken the urine for so long, they lost touch with reality on so many issues, and they can keep sticking the knive in deeper at our cost!

So why is fuel costing roughly 1 euro per litre in the so called equel Europe, and now £1.10 per litre in the UK. May l remind the younger generation that their is 4.5 litres to a gallon that equells around £1.50 a gallon more expencive than our neighbour's in Europe. We have known for a conciderable period, the price increace's are not connected to the price of oil, but to government greed and the foolish British poeple for excepting these increase's

If this government weren't so incompetant and wasteful with, our, the tax payers money and we did not have to fund the baffoons in Brussells, taxation would be realistic to all payer's, infact with British technology, skills and effeciancy we could be the pride of Europe and the world, instead of being a troden, depressed, and over taxed UK society.

Sadly if you want a government to listen, you have to take the matter onto the streets and protest like our Euro cousins. Please support this protest or don't winge when pupm prices reach the £1.50 a litre mark and your wages are frozen!

Thought's for the future: have you been consulted about the proposed coastal wind farms, the blot to our beautiful coastline, their inefficiency and costing to you???



Posted by Nigel Mayfield, 10th December 2007 8:44pm

Let's do it!

Posted by Joseph O'connor-lloyd, 10th December 2007 8:44pm

As a new driver this year ive definatly seen the pinch with petrol going up at least 10p per litre since i started driving if not a little bit more. The taxation of fuel aswell as road tax how else will they try and make us pay more to do something which for most people who have just passed are realy enjoying the freedom of being able to go anywhere.
I live in the countryside and was paying over £6 on public transport to the nearest town

Posted by Martin Brown, 10th December 2007 8:45pm

Once again it is the minimum wage earner that will feel this more than others. This government is making it harder and harder for the low wage earner to even earn a living and breeding discontent on a huge scale.

Posted by Elaine Glave, 10th December 2007 8:45pm

Our neighbours across the Channel in La France are experts at getting what they want so perhaps we should take a leaf out of their book and bring the nation to a halt.

Posted by Trevor Keith Wilson, 10th December 2007 8:45pm
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