09.12.07 Petrol price protests planned for this Wednesday

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Do you think the government should have acted before these protests?


UPDATE: Transaction 2007 have announced a firm date for the protest - Saturday 15th December 2007 at 10:00am. They say the date was decided by members as "the best possible to enable those who would normally be working during the week to attend." According to a press release on the site, they plan to protest outside refineries or storage depots across the country.

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A group called Transaction 2007 is planning a "nationwide legal protest" this Wednesday.

You might remember the fuel protest of 2000 which initially gathered strong support from motorists. However, that support quickly turned when many motorists were prevented from filling up because of lorry blockades.

PetrolPrices.com expressed to the organisers that they may find public support for another fuel protest providing it was properly planned to be legal and orderly. So far, the Transaction 2007 organisers have been unwilling to confirm to us specifically what action they have planned for this week. When we pressed the group's spokesman, Chris Hunter, he said "This will be a numbers game levied against legislation. I can comment no further."

With fuel breaking well beyond the £1 barrier, PetrolPrices.com has had a huge rise in the number of emails from concerned motorists. People were especially angry following the last fuel duty hike imposed by the Government in October. Despite being made aware of the huge resistance from motorists, the Government pushed ahead with the 2p duty increase, leaving the public frustrated and angry. Over 80,000 people had voted against the tax hike on our blog post.

The protests of 2000 achieved some success in that the fuel duty escalator was frozen. However, it has now resumed and with the rising price of oil motorists are paying ever increasing taxation due to VAT on fuel. Unlike fuel duty which is fixed, VAT is charged at 17.5%, so for every 1p increase in the price of fuel, we are actually paying an extra 1.175p.

We'd love to hear what you think. How have the tax and oil price rises affected you? Will you be forced to tighten your belt this Christmas as a result?

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Great!!, lets hope the government will sit up & listen. The petrol prices are a rip off.

Posted by Sara Thomas, 10th December 2007 10:47pm

and the differnce between Brown and Thatcher is Simon ?

The richer get richer under Brown too come on !! The only difference is the loony left get there say thats all

Posted by Jon Goodman, 10th December 2007 10:49pm

We rely on our vehicle to get to and from work, where hubby works there is no public transport and when he gets home from work we have tea then I go to work, without the van I wouldn't be able to get to work on time unless I didn't have anything to eat, not a good idea, plus I have a scoliosis which means I am in constant pain so having to walk to work would cripple me. As for the price of petrol well it means that we all will have to tighten our belt at Christmas and we cant enjoy days out like we used to as we can't afford the petrol to do so any more.

Posted by Anne Whittaker, 10th December 2007 10:49pm

*************************************************************These gas guzzling monsters and super cars need to be off the road. Smaller cars don´t use much petrol/diesel, Downsize!
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Fine! So I work in excess of 50 hours a week, but cant have a nice car that I like because I have to think about the tax I am paying not for the extra polloution that may be caused (in fact a modern 2.5ltr petrol produces less pollution than and old 1.2ltr petrol car) but to subsidies the governments next pay rise or the £1000 bar bill that has been raised in the commons that week.

I earn my money let me spend it how I want on the things I want!!!!!!

Posted by Colin Morgan, 10th December 2007 10:52pm

I usually drive about 600 to 800 miles a month for my job. I do get this reimbursed, but I have to pay out first and the amount reimbursed hasn't been increased for about 2 years. I'm not a high earner and I am now having problems with making ends meet.

Posted by Susan Hummerston, 10th December 2007 10:54pm

further to a post prior to this we were told diesel would never be more expensive than petrol we oblige by purchasing more expensive vehicles than petrol lo and behold once the country is converted or hood-winked we get a reversal of pricing even lpg will follow so beware the next so called green move by any government you will be taxed again for being green

Posted by Carl Wrigley, 10th December 2007 10:56pm

Fine! So I work in excess of 50 hours a week, but cant have a nice car that I like because I have to think about the tax I am paying not for the extra polloution that may be caused (in fact a modern 2.5ltr petrol produces less pollution than and old 1.2ltr petrol car) but to subsidies the governments next pay rise or the £1000 bar bill that has been raised in the commons that week.
Have 2,5 ltr cars been banned then Colin in my earlier post I said put it all on the petrol and do away with tax so you pay as you go seems the fairest way?

Posted by Jon Goodman, 10th December 2007 10:56pm

Bring it on. About time.

Posted by John, 10th December 2007 10:57pm

I think the government are just getting more and more greedy. and lining there
own pocket! The Americans moaned about a couple of cents hike and there was uproar! but that still made there prices a third or less of ours, why??
we are supposed to be in the e.u All prices should be similar....There should be
a stand made in this country! but there won't be because we are soft!!!

Posted by David Massey, 10th December 2007 10:58pm

what a waste of time!!!

i protest on a Saturday, a day of the week were not many people work, so no busuness wil be lost, in the circles where it counts, these people must think the rest of us are as stupid as they are, why wont they have it on a weekday, is it because if they do, they too may not be able to get fuel to get them to work, thus, losing them there days pay, excuse my french, but what a load of b0!!0cks, the term, p!$$up in a brewery springs to mind,
lets be honest, there is nothing we can do, as much as i dont want to pay the extra ike on fuel, if i dont, i will lose more money, when i cant get to work, so i just have to grin and bare it.

sorry to piss on your parade, butm hey, thats my feelings on it, and if your protest works, i will show my arse in Woolies shop window!!!!!

Posted by Garry, 10th December 2007 10:58pm

Fuel Duty, RoadTax..etc. Is there a site which shows what this money is actually spent on.
Last week I came across across two people who work in government (Civil Servant) & (NHS). Both have a card (they apply for), which gives them huge discounts off car prices and discounts off fuel from certain garages.
NB. These cars are private and not used for work...(one car was bought for the daughter who uses "mummy (the card)" to fill her tank up).
I am digging for more substantial evidence, anyone else heard of this?
Now where is all this Tax going? The "Government Elite" again I reckon.
Is this perk taxed? I do not think so!
Get those petrol prices Down Brown and were you really voted in democratically anyway?

Posted by K Ian Marsden, 10th December 2007 10:59pm

Well done & keep up the pressure. The government talks about helping families and children & about education being top priority. Obviously, they haven't thought through what it takes to achieve these objectives. Education means teaching children a variety of skills & out of school activities, lessons and classes. Within the same family, children of different ages and inclinations have different requirements & may do different activities out of school. A major part of a supporting & involved parent(s) include taking the children to & from their activities out of school times, since the government does not provide available free public transport for children outside school time & many times even during school time such as my children. High petrol prices put a big strain on the family finances. We live in times that necessitate the use of private vehicles as an integral part of our lives to cope with the speed and requirements of the society especially for families with children.

Posted by Elie Constantinides, 10th December 2007 10:59pm

I thought today that if there was a protest I would join it. I am absolutely fed up with us just acceptinhg everything the government dole out. My husband lost his pension and the government agencies said they wouldn't like to comment, no one will take any responsbility for anything. This hike in fuel is just another tax, knowing that we will eventually just give in. Well we shouldn't. Write to yout MP's ,lobby them. Let them see that we won't take this lying down.

Posted by Janis Anderson, 10th December 2007 10:59pm

There is no point in blaming the Government for an increase in Oil cost, which is way beyond its control. The real culprit here is the OPEC cartel, which is basically price fixing. It is illegal in just about any other market, look at BA / Virgin for example. For as long as OPEC refuse to increase production the economic forces of supply & demand will mean the price is held high. Any protest is futile, I am just glad I have 120 litres of diesel in storage so if there is any disruption of supply I can keep motoring for a while.

Posted by Mark Lawson, 10th December 2007 11:00pm

soft!!! David or self centred? unity is power and thats something the Britsh dont have?

Posted by Jon Goodman, 10th December 2007 11:00pm

I have nothing to add to the comments, except to say stop talking and start acting. We are allowing ourselves to be taken for a ride "no pun intended" .
The solution rests with us the majority, make your voice heard if we are loud enough they have to listen.

Posted by Sandra Quadrelli, 10th December 2007 11:01pm

At last, its been a long time coming, so it might affects us all a bit, but not as much as the price of petrol is now!!!

Good luck to the protesters, its just a shame the bigger organisations like the RAC, AA, RHA, FTA (who allegedly are the voice of the motorist, hauliers etc) didn't have the balls the protesters have!!

Go guys go!!

Posted by Sean Fowler, 10th December 2007 11:01pm

It's not before time! I reckon that now that the anti-smoking campaign is beginning to take effect, the exchequer is losing tobacco revenue and is trying to make up the loss by sticking it on fuel. As a couple on the old age pension, we are finding it harder to make ends meet by the week. And the knock on effect will affect everybody by increasing the price of everything we have to buy just to survive. So good luck with the campaign, We are 100% behind you.

Posted by John Hefford, 10th December 2007 11:02pm

motorists must stop being selfish , thinking the planet exists for them . Grow up Of course fuel prices will rise ..petrol is not a renewable energy Start changing yor habits How many car trundle back and forth along the ever increasing motorways with only one passenger each day ? Find something unselfish to protest about!...there's a lot of choice.

Posted by F Scott, 10th December 2007 11:03pm

No Jon 2.5 ltr cars have not been banned, and yes I agree with you when you put it on a pay as you drive policy.
You cant put more on the petrol. If the government did away with road tax, tax on insurance, etc, people would not mind spending that little bit extra on the fuel. But what people are saying here is that fuel is high enough as it is and how come we pay so much to run and use our cars when our EU companions pay so much less.
Also people would not mind if the money was put back into the transport network (both on roads and in to public transport), but it is not most is used to pay for other country's pollution and the benifits taken by people who do not contribute to the system.

We want fair and equal treatment by our chossen government, not blindly lead, and taken for a ride because we are the easy targets.

Posted by Colin Morgan, 10th December 2007 11:04pm

Fantastic news, and high time. I was more than happy to offer support at the Kingsbury depot 7 years ago, and I'm delighted to see democracy in action once again. Bring it on!

Posted by Niall Ledger, 10th December 2007 11:04pm

Fantastic!!! The more that are able to protest the better. We are members of the EU with none of the benefits. Why do we have to pay more tax than anyone else?
Could it be that we accept everything without protest? THe French people stand up for themselves and protest if there is something they do not agree with, we just lie down and accept everything. GOOD LUCK to anyone who is able to join the protest. We have all had enough!

Allan

Posted by Allan Newton, 10th December 2007 11:05pm

Guys, i too think its about time we make a stance!! bring on the blockades!!

i have a bmw 325 and i have recently been forced to buy a small peugeot 106 diesel as the fuel prices are stupid!
far from making me stop using my car, thus less cars on the road, i have increased my carbon foot print and im afraid to say, if the government doesnt wanna play fair with us, then we gotta stand up for our rights to pay a fair price for fuel!!

its funny how americans would not even concider driving a 2litre car on their highways and instead opt for 5litre chevy's, but little ENGLAND is trying to change the global warming situation!!
im sooo peed off! BRING ON THE PROTESTS!

Luigi Presti (bristol)

Posted by Luigi Presti, 10th December 2007 11:05pm

What really annoys me about this Government is that when it comes to the environment, it's message is so disjointed. On one hand, it proposes expensive road usage monitoring schemes (aka spying on you and I). On the other, it only provides a 5 pence per litre reduction on duty on Biofuels. This make Biodiesel (which I run my car on) typically only 5 - 10 pence per litre cheaper at the pump.

When LPG (a lower emission but less efficient fuel than conventional diesel) is only 45 pence per litre due to 'environmental reasons', you've seriously got to ask yourself just what the heck this bunch of jokers running our Country are playing at?!!!!!

Posted by James Mcnaughton, 10th December 2007 11:06pm

I think petrol prices represent tremendous value at the moment.

£1.10 a litre to keep that grin on Gordon Browns beautiful face!!!

Posted by Nathanial Mortimer, 10th December 2007 11:06pm

will this government ever be brought to justice they are thieves and vagabonds, we have got to stand up and sort out these rising prices or we'll be using motorways as public footpaths! I must have been dreaming when labour got in no 10 and said "we wil not increase taxes" and those who vote for labour must be living on another planet - lets get rid right now! if only for the sake of our childrens' christmas presents (not PC but who gives a ....)
p.s don't buy your child a petrol play car!

Posted by Gillian Davies, 10th December 2007 11:08pm

Colin thanks for your response I agree I am a Sustainable Development Manager so yes im a greenie by trade but I still drive I have an old 1.2 clio and my wife drives our brand new 1.8 Focus what strikes me is I pay more tax for the focus which pollutes less than the clapped out old Clio!! Its senseless from a green point of view I would say use the 2.5 ltr but pick your mates up on the way to work and split the cost there are too many cars with single occupants which again shows how self centred we have become those who care share dont you think Colin?

Posted by Jon Goodman, 10th December 2007 11:09pm

i run my own courier and removal company, which i only started up 18 months ago. the price of fuel that has gone up in the last 18 months is totaly unjustified. i spend on average of between £200 and £500 per week on fuel alone. this is just pushing up all everyday products that people need transporting, no wonder this country is getting crippled. something needs to be done and to be done now to show this goverment that we are not going to stand to one side and accept it. i can not for the life of me understand why we motorist have let fuel prices get to this high or the transport union.
A & P Removals

Posted by Peter Pearson, 10th December 2007 11:11pm

Yep, we put up and shut up for too long, our fuel prices have gone beyond ridiculous as we, the motorist are kicked and squeezed to get more money out of. We need to show Downing Street that we will not be taken for mugs any longer, I am in support of any fuel protest.

Incidentally, does anyone know if it's true that United States airbases here in the UK sell fuel to their soldiers and crew at the US prices, I had heard that they do this but not found out for sure - if they do it is grossly unfair don't you think ?

Posted by Antony Murphy, 10th December 2007 11:11pm

AT LAST, GREAT NEWS! It's about time motorists started to make a stand again! Over the last 8 weeks fuel prices have gone up by approx. 15p/litre - the government is making an extra 2.5p/litre in VAT revenue and 4.5p/litre incl. the 2p hike in fuel duty.

Posted by Eddie Scholes, 10th December 2007 11:13pm

I have read many of the comments, and also suffer from the high prices which compare poorly with my ability to pay for fuel 40 years ago as a student. However we (a money based lot) need hikes to nudge us to necessary adaptations. How many heavy footed drivers do you hear, ignorant or careless of the fuel (our fuel) they are needlessly spilling into the atmosphere? You know, the Real Skilled Guys; not.
I reckon its time to combine pricing with ...YES...find another word if you like, but...rationing, and with the Fuel Card to handle the admin of variable price rates..hiking as you use more than expected. Link insurance etc rates to FUEL USED instead of miles or the utterly stupid way we 'tax' now.
VED at moment is effectively a down payment on your fuel costs for the year ahead! Higher VED encourages more fuel purchasing!
Do you want (say) heavy 4X4's to be encouraged to get their VED 'monies worth' by driving a lot? Hell no! Yet that's what Gordon's VED ideas do...don't they?
A 4X4 on the driveway is NO Problem; just minimise its fuel burning = road use.... !!
Enough.

Posted by Bernard Naeme, 10th December 2007 11:16pm

i agree with all of what has been said i am with you
i am fed up with being ripped off by all the goverments would it help if we as indervidusils were to lobby our local m p to demand answers thay are suposed to be thier to represent us who put them thier
would it not be nice if thay actulay listerned to us for a change ha ha

keep up the good work

Posted by Richard George, 10th December 2007 11:17pm

Tax on fuel always goes upand never comes down when the price of oil comes down or when the economy is doing well.The price rises affect everyone in the UK,so it is about time the whole of Britain protested to the government full scale so that they will not take the easy option to raise money for the exchequer.I fully support the protests and I hope that this will make all labour party MP's sit up and think about what might happen at the next general election.

Posted by Derek Shaw, 10th December 2007 11:18pm

Its about time we took action against the ridiculous rises in fuel prices.

I am a midwife who this year has been offered a pitiful pay rise of just 1.5% (which incidently was due in April and still has not been paid to any NHS workers) and need a car to travel to work for shifts where public transport is not easily accesible or in fact any cheaper, yet we are expected to pay well over £1 per litre and more for petrol. (a station near me currently charges £1.04 petrol and £1.09 diesel in North of England)

My husband travels 44 miles round trip to work and back each day and he is seriously having to consider looking for work nearer to home if tax continues to be added to fuel like this.

I completely support any legal action that will be taken!

Posted by Nicola Priestley, 10th December 2007 11:18pm

I am a small builder living in a rural aria I have had to change my van for a more economical one 18 month's ago due to fuel prices now I am back to square one as the new van wich is far better on fuel is costing more to run than the old one
I think the government is taking the p*** out of all of us and another fuel protest is the way forward (but they wont take any notice)
they will keep doing the same thing waving the green flag and try to make us all feel guilty for going out to work and pay for them to live in the type of luxury most of us can only dream of
the only way we are going to make this lot listen is to stop working and see how fast this contry grinds to a hault , eventualy we will all be put out of work due to the short sighted pepole in westminster .
ps if you know of a bus company that will pick me up from my local builders merchant and dorp me off at my custmors address with 20 sheets of plaster board and ten bags of plaster I will use public transport and sell the van

Posted by Philip Evans, 10th December 2007 11:20pm

If the whole country boycotted Esso or BP Garages then they will be forced to lower their prices within days. This would be better than blockades as the drivers could still buy petrol from other garages but effecting the sales of Esso or BP.

power to the people.

Posted by Gavin Dowd, 10th December 2007 11:21pm

need to drive to work as a nurse and with the unsocial hours we work. public transport is not an option for me so the price of petrol goes up but as yet this year our pay rise which we were due in april has not been implemented so how do we pay for this petrol increase!!!

Posted by Sylvia Dickson, 10th December 2007 11:22pm

Why do other countries get cheaper fuel than the uk??? (America, Mainland Europe, etc...) Is this because of tax??? Is it because we're running out??? Is it to help the environment??? If so why does the UK have to pay for everyone else???

I am from Belfast in Northern Ireland and I visit the South of Ireland quite a bit. Fuel is a lot cheaper, so I time the visits so that I can fill up the tank! Sounds mad but I was making a mega saving!!!

Posted by Chris Black, 10th December 2007 11:22pm

Why is it that fuel is that crude oil is around $100 a barrel yet the price in USA is around $3 a gallon and here it is almost £5 a gallon. That works out at around $10 a gallon!! Oh and also the US gallon is larger than UK gallon. Must be the Thieves at the treasury again!! Oops did I say that?

Posted by Blackcab94, 10th December 2007 11:23pm

It's time to make a stance. Fuel duty should be cut by at least 50%. Government officials should cut their foreign travel to an abosolute bare minimum and should be openly accountable. Be aware with the polution issues, the local council road planners are one of the biggest causers of pollution. Bear in mind this fact; the internal combustion engine runs more efficiently at higher running speeds than slow therefore issuing less pollutants! What's the road planners doing? They are making roads narrower and putting up more and more traffic lights which in turn causes more and more congestion. It therefore stands to reason this is causing far more pollution and of course greater fuel consumption not to mention frustration.
Change the government, change the policies and take action NOW! Also duty should be reduced on Biodiesel

Posted by Peter Sykes, 10th December 2007 11:23pm

Yes Jon I agree, people should share journeys, were possible, but for me personnally, I live 25 miles from my place of work, somedays I start at 7.00am some days I start at 8.00am somedays I finish at 5.00pm somedays I finish at 9.00pm, I dont know anyone who is this flexible that works and lives in the same areas I do.
I would use public transport and have done an a few occassions, but it has meant me being up at 4am to catch 3 busses and 3 different trains and in turn costing me more just to be at work for 8am. and then doing the retrun trip leaving work at 5pm and not arriving home until 9pm.

When possible I walk to the shops to save money on fuel and of course the economy.

I often see busses that are half empty following each other down the same route, pumping out disgusting amounts of fumes, where is the sense in that?

Posted by Colin Morgan, 10th December 2007 11:23pm

I can't find the message opposing the protests that I posted earlier. I'll have another go.

I don't know what all the fuss is about. It is a well known fact that motoring is cheaper in real terms than it has ever been. We will soon be reaching peak oil (some people think we have already reached it) and, when oil starts to become scarce during the next couple of decades, people will look back fondly to the low fuel prices of the early 21st century.

If you don't know about peak oil, or are in denial about it, you owe it to your children (and yourselves in your old age) to find out and have a serious think about what a realistic government fuel strategy would look like. It is hard to see how lowering prices would enter the equation. I know it's not palatable, but there's no running away from it. Protesting about the recent rises in fuel prices has about as much point as protesting to the sea about the tide coming in.


Posted by Paul Ansell, 10th December 2007 11:24pm

Something that may not have been said in the last 3321 posts (stirred up some sentiment here !) is about local price fixing. This website shows the variation in price around the country, I was always told it was to do with transportation costs but I think that is rubbish. Everyone will try to maximise their profits (as Shell has just shown). I have specifically been concerned about LPG price variations. LPG tracks the price of petrol for no other reason than the suppliers can get away with it. LPG is essentially a waste by- product of petrol production if we don't use it they will burn it off as flares. The variation in price of LPG across the UK is huge, over 25%. Someone is taking the.... No local competition, another reason we have to be the ones to drive the price down.

Posted by Craig Nixon, 10th December 2007 11:26pm

Everyone needs to calm down and stop acting so hysterically.
Use less fuel, plan more, don't take fuel for granted.

We all need to work together to reduce the use of precious fossil fuels.

No to the blockades - so, depsite many assertions to the contrary, not 'everyone' will be supporting them, *I* won't!

Posted by Helen, 10th December 2007 11:27pm

In FRANCE they wont stand for it, i checked some receipts the other day, 2 years ago i was paying 86p a litre, now i'm paying 105.9, bloody rediculous. im a self employed carpenter trying to run a business, but it seems i am earning less and less after STEALTH taxes.

Posted by David Sanderson, 10th December 2007 11:28pm

FANTASTIC NEWS - ABOUT BLOODY TIME TOO...!!!
Let's just hope the protest runs and runs and runs - let's bring this cesspit of a country to its knees.
With all this Government's doing for the Country and the working person, no wonder we are the ar##hole of Europe.
Good luck with the protest and lets not buckle this time.

Posted by Jamie2.5dse, 10th December 2007 11:29pm

There are some people still in this country who knows how to protest and I salute to them. Price is too much and is going up and up again and no one is doing anything about it. Mr Brown need to cut down the tax urgently before the economy damages completely like he made the banking industry. I have full support with the protesters.

Posted by Obaidul, 10th December 2007 11:30pm

Glad to hear that something is being done about the extortionate prices we are being made to pay. I am fully behind the protests as you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere and say enough is enough.



Posted by Diesel Driver, 10th December 2007 11:31pm

Paul, I see your point, but just cause you charge more for the fuel does not mean people will use it less. People need to use there cars, trucks, vans, bikes etc.

Why is it that we pay so much more than the rest of the world when the price is the same to every country. The government is using the fuel as a way to tax the earning person, not to help save the world or the "Peak Oil" problem!!

Posted by Colin Morgan, 10th December 2007 11:32pm

Much of the revenue collect by the way of fuel tax is just wasted raging war in countries Rule Britannia and all that we have no business being there in the beginning of this century there were very few motor cars and the general tax was 4 old pence in the £ we were managing to run the country on that so why can't the government tighten it's belt and cut fuel tax before this all starts not just Labour when it's in but the Conservative before as well it's far to easy for them to add to the very high price we all pay.

Posted by Peter Smith, 10th December 2007 11:34pm

petrol prices are up, they will stay up since global demand now outstrips supply. this is due to us hitting the point of peak oil production, peak oil is a flow problem where the rate of oil that can be processed is no longer high enough to match the global demand due to a dwindling supply of easy to extract and process light crude. before you go protesting about petrol prices try to do some reading in advance. google for the term peak oil - read all you can. then google for "albert bartlet energy and population" and read / listen to the whole thing about exponential population growth in the face of finite resources. if you still cannot see the bigger picture then go ahead with your protests and get ready to protest about the amazing price hikes in food (yes this is oil / gas related too) and all the other hardships you are about to experience due to this very simple concept.

Posted by Rob Frost, 10th December 2007 11:35pm

The British government throws our good tax paying money at masking its inefficiencies. We are paying far too much for fuel. If our government could manage their own employees by improve their awful efficiency thru cutting back on staffing levels, reducing sickness, governing everything their people do to death, then maybe the hard working, non flexi time, no free parking and no early fat redundancy payment working class people of the uk would be able to fill up for 59.9 again!

Teachers and civil servants getting early retirement with big payoffs - stop it mr brown - and bring back the 59.9

Posted by Dr Jonathan Connell, 10th December 2007 11:36pm

We should do what the French do, bring the country to a stand still, park our cars so to block every road in the uk. Perhaps then the government may take notice

Posted by Barbara Flewitt, 10th December 2007 11:36pm

Yes action is needed. Message to Mr Brown. . . The price is far too high i would like to see 20p off the litre that would still leave 50p a litre to Gordons grabbers.

For 10 years its been not education education education but taxation taxation taxation. Don't get too settled in number 10.

Posted by Christian Barber, 10th December 2007 11:37pm

Perhaps as a follow on to this protest another could be arranged that ensured people simply did not go to work unless they could do so on public transport. This would kill two birds with one stone highlighting just how inadequate public transport is for one.

Posted by James Martin, 10th December 2007 11:39pm

Paul..you want a comment...This Blog revolves around Fuel Duty. I think most people will understand supply and demand may change all this in the future, but, unfortunately as I was taught in GCSE ecconomics the Chancellor loves things with 'inelastic' demand Ciggies, alcohol and fuel. He knows that if he puts duty up on any of these items 'we' will not reduce our uptake and he can calculate fairly confidently how much extra revenue he will raise. Unfortunately you can squeeze your cash cow too hard and that it were we are now. Unfortunately he will have to raise his revenue by some other hard hitting tax probably a fast food tax...yet again on the pretence that it is to do with our health but in reality to some people the Drive through Mc D is another 'inelastic' must have product.

Posted by Craig Nixon, 10th December 2007 11:39pm

The resumption of tax hikes under the heading of a "green Tax"must have made Mr. Brown fall to his knees and thank God he could he could rip us off some more.How thick does he think we all are that we can be fooled all of the time and how transparent to cover some types of protest underhis anti-terorism act.Looks like a re-run of the miners dispute,U.K.police against U.K. citizens.Would this happen so readily in the Republic across the channel,I think not!

Posted by Tony Batchford, 10th December 2007 11:39pm

Totally agree, the so-called Green issue is b******s. We have had fluctuations in temperatures for millions of years, it was a lot hotter than this during the Jurrasic period in this country. Politicians are jumping on this as an excuse to squeeze even more money out of us. As a previous contributor has said, with the dollar at $2.10 to the £ we should be paying around 85p a litre.
This all stinks of tax the motorist even more. There should be an adjustment that if the price goes above $90 a barrel, then the fuel duty should reduce accordingly. We should be more like France. Vive the Revolution!

Posted by Chris Jordan, 10th December 2007 11:40pm

You are not comparing like with like though.

Other countries may pay less for fuel at the pump but pay more for their car travel via other taxes and levies.

The UK government can't be held responsible for the global price of fuel or Arab states forcing prices up!

Nevertheless I would prefer tax duties to be replaced by green taxes and for motorists to be charged by how green there car and travel is.

Perhaps if you government hating Tories emigrated abroad our roads will become less congested :)

Posted by Stuart Drunsfield, 10th December 2007 11:41pm

A group of us were talking the other day and could not understand why there had not been any protests about the price of petrol before now..??
I am not surprised that people are rebelling, and not before time.
I myself would join in any such protest as I think it is an absolute joke.
When will the people of Gt Britain stand up and be counted?

Posted by Jan, 10th December 2007 11:42pm

Comment about price of fuel and the level that the pound is at is so true. Dollar currently around $2 to £1 so oil costing approx £50 a barrel. Someone must be making on the currency transactions. Research has been done which suggests litre would have to cost upwards of £1.83 to make a real difference to car usage. Does this mean that we just have to grin and bear it and hope that public transport improves? Just know that even in the central belt of Scotland (outside Glasgow/Edinburgh) - it isn't brilliant if you want to go a distance. How long before people start leaving jobs and ending up on benefits costing the government even more? Enough is enough - put a stop to the duty or make it VAT free!

Posted by Carole Mulholland, 10th December 2007 11:42pm

Service engineers can't get a bus or a train cos we've got a car loaded with tools and spares
I put £800 of diesel in my car last month and at least £600 goes to the Exchequer.
GET THE PROTEST STARTED!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Peter King, 10th December 2007 11:44pm

This governmemt is bringing the country to it's knees, these fuel increases are doing no good at all as it affects the poor and needy, because of price increases in food, fuel & utilities are some of the things affected. Those on fixed incomes ie: pensioners are just going under where is the money coming from for them to live decent lives, not from Mr Darling that's for sure.
Also industry is affected and those who drive for a living, why we are taxed so high is beyond me because the money is certainly not going towards better roads.
WE MUST STAND TOGETHER AND GET SOMETHING DONE.

Posted by J L Westwood, 10th December 2007 11:48pm

Yet again another example of the motorist is being punished from all directions, fines, taxes and now again fuel prices. When will the toll charges be coming? Lets all park up our cars and use any other method of getting to work taking longer to do so if necessary.

Posted by Haro Zakarian, 10th December 2007 11:49pm

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Perhaps if you government hating Tories emigrated abroad our roads will become less congested :)
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I have no fixed alegence to any government as long as the one that is in power is thinking of what is best for the country. At the moment labour are not doing this. I am not saying that the Conservatives would either, but the government is just taking liberty's from the the pockets of the hard working people.

Stop giving out benifits to the people who claim they can't work, because they are too fat to get out of the chair, when really they cant be arsed to go to work because it has been made too easy for them.
That way the tax on all things no just the fuel could be reduced.

If you went to Australia to live you have to prove that you can support yourself or that your skill is something that the country needs. To come to the UK you just have to turn up and say Hello!!!! and the tax that has just been taken from me filling my fuel tank will be given to you to help you buy new clothes and shoes.

The country is not working and we have to start somewhere, and as fuel is the biggest cost that everyone has to endure, why not start there!!!
If the French can protest then why cant we!!!!!!

Posted by Colin Morgan, 10th December 2007 11:51pm

Another scam by the most devious government I've ever known. Brown has the cheek to claim brownie points for lowering the rate of income tax while everything else goes up to compensate. This is financial penalty for motorists can be added to the money grabbing 'safety' cameras and the ridiculously damaging speed humps. They have the cheek to spend millions of OUR money to pay consultants to do surveys that they then ignore.
Protest protest protest until we can force this lot out.

Posted by Ron Ede, 10th December 2007 11:52pm

Any fuel protests need to be targeted better than in 2000. Back then, the blockades caused public opinion to turn against the protest, because motorists were suffering but the government wasn't. On the contrary, as prices soared due to scarcity, the government prospered from the blockade as the VAT charge per litre increased.
I am in favour of targeted protests - specifically any blockade needs to be in central London, right at the heart of government territory.
By all means send a few thousand articulated lorries to jam up the London area. Even better, send just a few dozen lorries to blockade that tiny part of London inhabited by government - ie Whitehall & Downing Street. Only if the government really feels and sees the protest on its doorstep will any protest be properly effective - and the long-suffering motorists of Britain can support such action without suffering further, which means that such action could continue indefinitely.
Blockade Whitehall & Downing Street now!

Posted by Michael Thomas, 10th December 2007 11:54pm

About time too! The price of fuel is a con, the government has been robbing us for too long and it's got to stop! Maybe we should take a leaf out of France's book, and spit the dummy out. It seems to work for them. Anything's worth a try, if we don't stand up for ourselves they're just going to continue to hike the price up till nobody can afford to run their vehicles. They have my support 100%......

Posted by Matt Thomson, 10th December 2007 11:54pm

Willing to join protest.

Posted by Gillian Stokes, 10th December 2007 11:54pm

I am in total support of this. Bring the country to it knees, show Gordan Brown that we will not be taken for idiots anymore.

He cares more about making sure his politicians claims there 100 grand of travelling expenses every year without a single thought to the working class of whom are running this country for that greedy little man.

If everyone just turned round one day (every single working person) and refused to buy fuel, well refused as much as possible, car shared, ran to work, hitched, cycled, hop, skipped, jump, however much it takes so we dont have to buy fuel, the country would be crippled. Its just a shame that the whole public transport system is such a friggin mess that we cant all use that. but Mr brown is ok cause he can travel around in his Limo, private jet, helicopter or on his high friggin horse, because he is alrigh Jack.

Bring on the protests, shove a fuel pump up his slimy behind and give him what for.

Id be there to help you blockage, but I cant afford the fuel to get there and the next train isnt for another week.

Go get em.

Posted by Gary Crossland, 10th December 2007 11:56pm

The government is so short sighted they say they want to keep inflation down at all costs. Then they put more duty and tax onto the fuel that cause ALL items we all buy to rise in price.

I am only doing about 6000 to 7000 miles in a year I can't afford any more, and it is spoiling life as we know it, by having petrol at any thing over 85p per Ltr.

Posted by Michael Kirton, 10th December 2007 11:57pm

they only time gordon brown will realise what the majority of this countries hard working population think of his tax and vat regime is when he is out of office i can,t wait

Posted by Steve Hall, 10th December 2007 11:58pm

It is about time!

MY son works for a haulage company that is now under threat of closer due to these heavy taxation fuel charges.. They have also sunk their teeth into the car tax and bump that up for lager vehicles hence making it very expensive to own a 4x4.. I am not saying that it is unfair what i am saying is soon he will be unemployed along with about 100 other drivers ..

Surely this stupid government can see they are not just using heavy tactics to gather extra income here but are indeed putting peoples lives and jobs at risk!..

In all the years i have lived here in cumbria i have never in all my days seen such hi costs of living, Now my son tells me his home could be at risk if he was to loose his job..

Get real you greedy government & listen to your voters to whom put you in power in the first place, or prepare to be kicked out of office!!!!! ..

Posted by Margaret Allington, 11th December 2007 12:01am

Only signed up site in last month since having to start travelling greater distances around the time diesel was just going through the £1 mark. It seemed to take time for all the garages to change their signage from three characters to four to accomodate the change to £1. As soon as they did this, its sky rocketed over £1 - I'm now paying £1.06.9 - How can my fuel bill go up by £15 in just four weeks - nearly 7% increase. As you can see from link below,
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=19
The national statistics office points to the increase in petrol prices has had a dramatic increase in the rate of inflation.

Motorists are an easy target and another reason why Labour with its stealth tax is eating away at our income - no rise in income tax but taxed to the hilt with council tax, petrol prices and rises in fuel charges.

Posted by Steve Whittle, 11th December 2007 12:04am

I don't really want to get into a spat about politics - each to their own and all that - but I don't see the doom and gloom that the news-media constantly reports - I have prospered under this Labour government and am not going to complain about a few extra pennies on a gallon of petrol anymore than will I be singing from the rooftops when the price goes down again - which it inevitably will too.

Don't suppose there will be any mass dancing in the streets when that happens :)





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