09.12.07 Petrol price protests planned for this Wednesday

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Do you think the government should have acted before these protests?

UPDATE: Transaction 2007 have announced a firm date for the protest - Saturday 15th December 2007 at 10:00am. They say the date was decided by members as "the best possible to enable those who would normally be working during the week to attend." According to a press release on the site, they plan to protest outside refineries or storage depots across the country.

For more information, have a look at our latest blog

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A group called Transaction 2007 is planning a "nationwide legal protest" this Wednesday.

You might remember the fuel protest of 2000 which initially gathered strong support from motorists. However, that support quickly turned when many motorists were prevented from filling up because of lorry blockades.

PetrolPrices.com expressed to the organisers that they may find public support for another fuel protest providing it was properly planned to be legal and orderly. So far, the Transaction 2007 organisers have been unwilling to confirm to us specifically what action they have planned for this week. When we pressed the group's spokesman, Chris Hunter, he said "This will be a numbers game levied against legislation. I can comment no further."

With fuel breaking well beyond the �1 barrier, PetrolPrices.com has had a huge rise in the number of emails from concerned motorists. People were especially angry following the last fuel duty hike imposed by the Government in October. Despite being made aware of the huge resistance from motorists, the Government pushed ahead with the 2p duty increase, leaving the public frustrated and angry. Over 80,000 people had voted against the tax hike on our blog post.

The protests of 2000 achieved some success in that the fuel duty escalator was frozen. However, it has now resumed and with the rising price of oil motorists are paying ever increasing taxation due to VAT on fuel. Unlike fuel duty which is fixed, VAT is charged at 17.5%, so for every 1p increase in the price of fuel, we are actually paying an extra 1.175p.

We'd love to hear what you think. How have the tax and oil price rises affected you? Will you be forced to tighten your belt this Christmas as a result?

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It really is time we did somthimg about this ever increasing cost. Calamity Gordon does not care that the people most affected are those least able to bear increased taxes . Imagine re installing the tax escalator as the raw material cost is sky rocketing

Posted by Alan Aspinall, 11th December 2007 12:07am

I was in Florida last week and it was roughly £1.60 for a gallon..... hahaha.... ridiculous over here something needs to be done.

Posted by Jonny H, 11th December 2007 12:08am

The public in general seem to be accepting the rise in fuel prices, why are there not mass demonstrations, I just don't understand why people don't stand up to this government?
I am a community health worker and need to drive my car around London to carry out my treatments, I am not going any extra allowances to do this- it is just scandalous. Please public, REVOLT and show we will not put up with this anymore.

Posted by Sarah Leer, 11th December 2007 12:08am

Petrol is a lot cheaper than other things . Perfume (now the price of this is ridiculas ) fruit juice, Pepsi cola, bottled water etc. even milk is catching up. I personally think that the high taxation of petrol and general high taxation is wrong ,and yes ! it is contributing to many of the indigenous people of this country leaving in droves. I have members of my family who have emigrated because of this Rip off Britain syndrome which we all now have to live with.
Trouble is we need to use more petrol .If the powers that be would wake up and stop blaming ONLY our consumerism for global warming and actually DO SOMETHING positive about the deforestation of the tropical rainforest's.

Posted by Cev, 11th December 2007 12:09am

A lot of people on here complaining about how they have to use their cars to get to work or the shops. And not wanting to pay a rather small additional tax.

Why did you move so far away from work, or shops ?

Why do you want to use a dirty, smelly, noisy, overpriced tin box to get around ?

Your choice.

Now pay the tax and shut up while I walk to work (for free).

You chose to be where you are. Now enjoy it.

And if you really cannot afford the tiny additional amount, then get a cheaper car.

Posted by Walktowork, 11th December 2007 12:10am

If you are going to co-ordinate action, why not try a national boycott of one company (i.e. SHELL) for a month and start a price war as they did in the states. You have to stress to people it's only if they are able to participate and keep it up for a full month for those who can and not be tempted to cave in and go to back to them as soon as they take a couple of pence off a litre.

Posted by Kenneth George Mcaulay, 11th December 2007 12:10am

The last protest left me anoyed by the panic buyers who can last a month on a fill up but they queued at the filling stations to chuck a few gallons into their vehicles. I drive 700 miles a week (1 fill up a week on my Peugeot 407) and I would be inconveniencied by having to queue.
I have the solution in that I have a friendly farmer where I will fill up with red diesel as long as the fuel protests last.
Question. Should I write out a cheque to HMRC for the unpaid duty on the red diesel that I use?

Posted by Graham Harvey, 11th December 2007 12:10am

I am overwhelmed by how much the fuel has increased in this country over the passed 8 months whilst ive been out of the country in Australia. Comparing UK fuel prices to theres, we are paying twice the amount per litre, but the thing that amazes me is there public transport system is brilliant and very user friendly, why cant we have a descent public transport system aswell as cheap fuel so everyone has something thats cost effective. Being fair minimum wages should increase to compensate because it seems everything else has sky rocketed except wages.

Posted by Jason Turner, 11th December 2007 12:11am

Hoorah!! I'm absolutely 'for' any protest. Personally, I'm sick of paying through the nose for fuel and road tax and the knock on effect to our pockets elsewhere.

Posted by Jacqui Roy, 11th December 2007 12:13am

I support boycott of one company for say a month to start price war. People need to stick with it to be successful. You know what people are like in this country, as soon as it goes down a penny they will cave in.

Posted by Kenneth George Mcaulay, 11th December 2007 12:14am

I think most of the public would back the hauliers this time-the government has gone too far.Its about time the british public did what some in the US have done-boycott petrol stations on designated days.Not wanting to shut petrol stations down.they should be on the forefront of any protests in there own interests

Posted by Des Foster, 11th December 2007 12:17am

Try being disabled and having to reley on your car, everytime the greedy fuel companies or chancelers put fuel costs up, many disabled people become even more housebound, or even iller due to being unable to pay the excessive fuel costs, and our so called mobility allowance has not kept up with this greedy governments tax policy on fuel

Posted by Keith, 11th December 2007 12:21am

About bloody time, in the last month alone I have seen the fuel price rocket, meaning I am now paying around an extra £80 a month in fuel just to get to work, and if I could afford to buy a house nearer my work, then maybe I might be able to walk or cycle, but in today's climate that ain't likely to happen!

Bring on the strikes I say, other European states would never stand for prices that we pay here!

Posted by Jason A, 11th December 2007 12:26am

Just back in UK from Gran Canaria - Diesel 0.71 Euro where i was staying.i support any action 100%.

Posted by John Smyth, 11th December 2007 12:27am

I Simply cannot afford to "do with out" my car as i need it for work, i cover approx 700miles a month to and from work, this may not be alot compared to other people but when ur only on 12k a year i dread to think how much money goes in the tank, and into the tax mans pockets i will probs only be on 7k a year if i worked it out,

Fuel protest hit britan hard its cutting of your nose to spite ur face as the old saying goes but if thats what its going to take for prices to come down i will be behind this,

I mean yes there is alternatives LPG for an example but to convert a car to LPG is around 1.4k simply not an option, other option is to use BIO fual but there simply isent enough chip shops \ take aways for everyone,

something has to give i just hope its the price on fuel, as this is truly a rip-off britan,

Posted by Alex Whittle, 11th December 2007 12:28am

Labour has ripped us off for years,surely they dont think that ordinary people are going to sit back and let them off without some kind of backlash.roll on the next election.

Posted by James Young, 11th December 2007 12:35am

Fuel is cheap, what's all the fuss about? It costs me under £10 in fuel to drive 100 miles. How else could I transport a family cheaper?

Another way you can tell that fuel is cheap is by the number of large & powerful cars on the roads. Every half-wit out there seems to think that they need an off-road vehicle to take their offspring a few hundred metres to school. If fuel was expensive, you wouldn't see many 4x4s, SUVs, large luxury cars, etc on the roads. I know people who think nothing of driving 100s of miles just to do a bit of shopping. Fuel is still too cheap.

There are loads of people out there who willingly buy bottled water at a higher price per litre than fuel. I take it that no-one complaining of fuel prices buys bottled water?

To those who praise the French I say go and live there. Their diesel is 30% cheaper than ours, but their economy is crippled by antiquated employment laws and a propensity to go on strike every few days.

Despite living in rip-off Britain, I actually pay only £150pa now to tax 2 cars.

And if you don't like paying fuel duty, our "rip-off" government has kindly allowed us to brew 2500 litres pa of diesel tax free, which should be enough for 2 average mileage motorists.

I defend the right of people to have a legal protest, but hope the line is drawn there, and that we don't go back to the grim days in 2000 when law-abiding people were prevented from going about their business, nurses and doctors couldn't get to hospitals, etc.

Posted by Mark, 11th December 2007 12:38am

I am so glad something is being done now i have noticed four months ago the price of petrol was around 98p and now it has shot up to 103 this is a joke and someone needs to make a stand.

I have to use my car for work and in the last few months has found my self putting in over £70 a week where before it was around the £50 mark £20 may not seem much but that is £80 a month more. Im ok i cam claim my millage however what about older people who do not have much money or the disabled.

I am backing all the way

Posted by Leanne Barnard, 11th December 2007 12:40am

Fuel is cheap, what's all the fuss about? It costs me under £10 in fuel to drive 100 miles. How else could I transport a family cheaper?

Another way you can tell that fuel is cheap is by the number of large & powerful cars on the roads. Every half-wit out there seems to think that they need an off-road vehicle to take their offspring a few hundred metres to school. If fuel was expensive, you wouldn't see many 4x4s, SUVs, large luxury cars, etc on the roads. I know people who think nothing of driving 100s of miles just to do a bit of shopping. Fuel is still too cheap.

There are loads of people out there who willingly buy bottled water at a higher price per litre than fuel. I take it that no-one complaining of fuel prices buys bottled water?

To those who praise the French I say go and live there. Their diesel is 30% cheaper than ours, but their economy is crippled by antiquated employment laws and a propensity to go on strike every few days.

Despite living in rip-off Britain, I actually pay only £150pa now to tax 2 cars.

And if you don't like paying fuel duty, our "rip-off" government has kindly allowed us to brew 2500 litres pa of diesel tax free, which should be enough for 2 average mileage motorists.

I defend the right of people to have a legal protest, but hope the line is drawn there, and that we don't go back to the grim days in 2000 when law-abiding people were prevented from going about their business, nurses and doctors couldn't get to hospitals, etc.

Posted by Mark, 11th December 2007 12:38am

Steady on Mark, this blog is for hysterics only, what on earth is your game trying to introduce a bit of sanity - Repent!

Posted by Greg Brown, 11th December 2007 12:42am

What does it mean to say 'roll on the next election'?!

I presume you mean the Conservatives will return to power and it will be a beautiful new day :)

Higher unemployment, lower investment in roads and public transport, health and schools...same level of stealth taxes as the Labour Gov...

As the saying goes be careful what you wish for :)

Incidentally isn't duty as a percentage of the gallon-cost the lowest since 1997?

We've never had it so good.

Posted by Stuart Drunsfield, 11th December 2007 12:45am

I agree with all those who have complained about the exorbitant fuel taxes , it's always dearest here in N ireland where the avergae wage is lower than the Uk average. I'm happy to stand up and protest . Just give me a legal lead to follow , some advice on where to go when to be there what to do and I'll gladly join in . Democracy in action....thats for me . Participate or don't whinge the politicians are busy , and the voters need to be too , especialy in-between elections where all the skullduggery takes place .

Posted by Mike Gordon, 11th December 2007 12:49am

This bloody goverment just rips of the british public all the time, they waste our money on the most ridiculous things and give it away to other countries charity begins at home, we need a party for the british public not the politicians and rich, the normal working class who are struggling to make ends meet, mind you these crafty bastewards will only get it back by other means mortgage rate rise and the normal council tax rise and the income tax rise not to forget car tax WE WONT WIN WE CANT THEY GOT ALL CORNERS COVERED, but if we all stuck together like the french who knows Good luck.

Posted by D.hellier, 11th December 2007 12:50am

IM 100% BEHIND THIS . THESE POCKETLINERS HO SORRY POLITICIANS DONT GIVE TWO HOOPS WHO THEY TROD ALL OVER ITS TIME WE KICKED BACK .

Posted by Will Kellett, 11th December 2007 12:57am

Hi, Fuel is too expensive and I support pressure to reduce the Tax on fuel. Most people think that they are taking part in an episode of Top Gear and have to beat everyone else away from the traffic lights and drive foot to the floor or stand on the brakes while cornering at the limit . I used to drive like this. Now my personal protest is to buy as little petrol as possible. As well as using my car only when absolutely necessary, I drive gently and break gently to save fuel. A good rear window sticker would be "SLOW DOWN - DON'T GIVE IT TO BROWN". Relax and take it easy. Gentle driving could save a 3rd of your present fuel costs. ( £1000 pounds a year on fuel could drop to £700) Using satnav saves fuel. Hard tyres roll easier than soft ones - check your tyre pressures. Driving gently also saves on servicing costs if you don't corner hard and break hard you don't wear your brakes or tyres as much. This saves you cash and results in less VAT to Gordon brown on parts. It is dull but every time you resist the urge to floor-it away from the lights or break late you are putting money in your pocket and kicking Brown where it hurts. Sticking to 60 rather that 70 or 80 on the Motorway saves gallons. It's your choice - SLOW DOWN DON'T GIVE IT TO BROWN .

Posted by D. Atkinson, 11th December 2007 12:57am

Sir,I most strongly object to the current price of petrol.I am on state pension and if this continues unabated may have to give up driving.FrankCampbell.

Posted by Frankcampbell, 11th December 2007 1:03am

It amazes me the comments made by some of the statements on this forum.
I used to spend £50 on fuel now I spend £70 it was 98p a litre now 103p a litre. Now come on a 5p a litre rise on £50 of fuel is only around £2-50p so you wouls be spending just that a week and £10 per month extra not £80.
I dont know where you did your mathamatics but I would have another go if I were you.
The price of fuel today is actually cheaper than it was in the early 70s and the fiftys in real terms.
Dont get me wrong though yes the duty is too high and something should be done about it but blockading the fuel depots and refinerys the only ones that will affect is us the general public. There will be panic at the pumps remember last time? queues, fighting for fuel, The government has already got a system to get fuel to where they want it for their needs so it will only affect those you want to support the cause it wont last long if they cant get fuel.
the protests should be centred to cause problems for the ministers themselves ie stop them from returning to their bolt holes and causing chaos in and around parliment. and other major government centres.
I believe the best way around this is to start a peoples party to oust all these clowns out of power, if all those who are putting all this effort into these protests did the same into setting up their own party there would be a better chance of success and you would then see how much support you have.

Posted by Walter James, 11th December 2007 1:06am

We motorist are always being treated like 'cash cows' for this loving government and as usual we grumble and show a stiff upper lip and do nothing!!!! It is high time we as motorist are heard, if its not enough we have camera's inadequately placed, councils now seeking their slice of the pie in parking fines etc. we have to put up with this!!!! Well I for one will be at the ralley as a stand has to be taken immediately before we are shown to accept anything this government throws at us motorist - whats next..... a penalty to listen to your radio in the vehicle because it is unsafe and causes distraction???
!!!!!!!!VIVA LA MOTORIST!!!!!!!

Posted by Darren, 11th December 2007 1:08am

I think this is getting ridiculous ! I work night shifts for the NHS. In my village, there is no public transport after 6.30pm. I do a 60 mile round trip to work, so I can't manage without my car, which at the moment costs me approx. £20 - 25 per week. I will support the protest, - anything to make this government see sense.

Posted by Dianne Hall, 11th December 2007 1:17am

It's too expensive for the price with most of the petrol stations are over 100, as we need to drive daily even using a 1.4 engine, but even the fuel price is high the average cost is still lower than public transport, I don't think it makes sense for me to go on public transport as they are far more expensive and takes longer journey time, which also not on the direct route.

Posted by Rodney Shek, 11th December 2007 1:22am

About time the people of the uk showed the government that there is more people in the country than them and we are all not on big incomes like them and that WE pay for our fuel unlike them because its the poeple of the uk that pays for there fuel. I just hope the people of the uk stand up together and shows the government they must respect us. I just hope the emeregency services get fuel but this time lets bring this country to its knees so we can pay a fair price for fuel no more 75%+ tax for fuel. the government need to relise to stop waisting tax payers money on office redecoration and big fat cats expensive food and drink.

Posted by Wayne Spence, 11th December 2007 1:22am

I am in favour of the protest however i really don't think they will have any effect re the gov...... Did they the last time in 2000? all i can remember is huge Q'S at EVERY petrol station.....
PS RICKY HATTON IS A LEGEND, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE MAKING A PROTEST TO THE DIV'S AT MANCHESTER UNI WHO WOULDN'T LET HIS GIRLFRIEND HAVE TIME OFF TO GO TO VEGAS TO SUPPORT HIM??????????......

Posted by Lola Rose, 11th December 2007 1:40am

FREAKING GREAT THE PETROL ROCKETS BY UPTO 16p PER LITRE £1.09.9 IN SOME PLACES BUT CALOR ALONG WITH SHELL HAS DECIEDED TO REALY SCREW LPG USERS TO A 50% HIKE IN PRICES IN LAST 9 MONTHS....I WAS PAYING 33p PER LITRE ON AVERAGE NOW AT 50p PER LITRE AND CALORIFIC VALUES HAS BEEN LOWERED AND DO NOT GET AS MUCH MILAGE TO THE TANK OF GAS AS I USED TOO !!!!!!......

AS BEING ON THE STANLOW PROTEST IN 2001 WITH BRINLEY WILLIAMS NOW AN ASEMBLEY MEMBER ON WELSH GOVERNING BODY...THERE WAS FUEL FOR EMERGENCY SERVICIES,MILATARY,HOSPITAL AND CARE WORKERS....BUT NEWS MEDIA SEEM TO BE EXEMPT FOR SOME REASON!!

MAYBE IF BLOCKADES COME AGAIN LIKE IN FRANCE!!! WERE THE FRENCH HAVE A LOT OF BACKBONE...THE PUBLIC HERE GET OFF THEIR ARSES AND SUPPORT ANY PROTEST LIKE THE FRENCH

( YOUR PUBLICLY VOTED MPs AND ARE,OUR SO CALLED REPRESENTATIVE'S TO GOVERMENT START ACTING IN OUR INTEREST, AS WE DID VOTE THEM INTO A MILLIONAIR STATUS OVER 5 YEARS AND THE ONLY SHOWER WHO GET £350,000 ERVERY 5 YEARS REDUNDANCY TAX FREE START EARNING THERE MONEY OR GET THEM DESELECTED FROM YOUR CONSTITUANCY THUS NOT GETTING THE £350K OUT OF THE PUBLIC PURSE)

AS A NATION IF WE SHOUT LOUD ENOUGH SOME GOVERMENT PLONKER MIGHT ACT !!!!! BESIDE THE GOAT !!

SUPPORT ANY PROTEST ........THE GOVERMENT WILL GIVE EXTRA FUEL PROFITS AWAY TO COUNTRYS WHO CAN'T PAY BACK BUT WILL HAPPILY SCREW US FOR THE 17.5% ON TOP CALLED V.A.T.
THEY CAN AFFORD TO LOWER FUEL DUTY BY 12p PER LITER BY WITHDRAWING OUR TROOPS OUT OF THE GULF AND THE MIDDLE EAST !!
SIGNED
TOTALY PISSED OFF
B.J.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE AND PETROL TO THE TANK !!!!!!!!!

Posted by Brian Jones, 11th December 2007 1:42am

I am a Driving Instructor. And find these fuel increases a struggle, My financial outgoings are nothing compared to my Brother in law who runs a Car Transporter Company using Diesel.
All Companies in this country are taxed to the hilt anyway. Vat too start and then 12 months later you are hit with Corporation tax ( taxed once again on your profits after you already paid VAT!!) and now the price of fuel always increasing. But Companies CAN NOT afford to increase their charges because their customers will find somebody else who can do the same job at a cheaper rate. So something NEEDS to be done in this country. If France can cause strikes and chaos to their country. ( which in turn causes chaos to OUR truckers who want to get home to their families) how come we dont do it in this country??????
There has got to be a time of change for the common working man of (not so Great) Britain.
How can this country afford to keep Asylum seekers and their families in this country; and send our soldiers to fight in other countries with sub-standard and unreliable equipment, by getting as much money as they can Via Increasing Petrol prices.............. (65p of every £1 of fuel is alleged to be TAX)
Are thos rumours correct ofr just a falousy?

Posted by Neil Hames, 11th December 2007 1:44am

Being both disabled with MS and living in a rural community, the government have effectively made sure that I will become pretty much housebound. I am only 43 but petrol price rises have meant that, living on a fixed income of DLA and Incapacity Benefit, I can no longer afford to run a car.

My mobility is poor enough that, even assuming a reliable bus service, I cannont get to the 'local' bus stop to use public transport and with fuel the price it is, I can now only use my car for emergencies - and I am one of the luckier ones who can afford to put petrol in the car now and then!

I certainly owe the government a great big thank you for adding insult to injury, the are making me re-prove my disability every year as it is and now this! I would be better off in prison!

Posted by Kimberly Hill, 11th December 2007 1:47am

This crappy government only know how too tax. They slip in a 'Fuel Escalator' months before the increase so they don't attract adverse headlines in the newspapers when it happens.

I am sure they think that we are not aware the 70% of the cost of fuel goes in tax. The Goverment are getting Billions in extra revenue as they did not expect the cost of oil too be so high.

They continualy bombard us with 'Global Warming' warnings when there is no real proof this is happening. This is just another way to pick our pockets
but they hope that we feel good while they are doing it (coz we are saving the planet!)

I am pleased to see that the wheels are starting to come Gordon Brown's financial plans, of course he will blame his puppet Chancellor Darling, but we all know who is responsible.

I just hope that everyone who voted for this incompetant shower remembers how much they have stolen off the people over the last 10 years, best of luck to the protesters this time, let's hope they they achieve the same as 2000.

One final point, I fear that Brown may read about the Oxygen tax, (see above) prepare to collect your 'nose meters' sometime soon!

Posted by Jeff Edge, 11th December 2007 1:59am

Hello, fellow drivers I am living in China and here it only costs 33p per litre,
so this definetly shows that it is the UK tax system that is cripling drivers across the country.

I do think that as many people as possible should protest and take down the government on this fuel policy. They should remember the people who put them their.

Posted by Ian, 11th December 2007 2:08am

I agree protest for lower fuel prices. but here is a better plan as of end of january 2008 no one pays road tax at all . All through the year month by month until gordon brown decides to lower fuel. fight fire with fire i say. trucks and cars from abroad use our roads and dont pay taxes to use them. all uk registered cars have to have road tax that about 4 million cars at an average of 150 pounds per car, £600,000,000??? to find mr brown and how can you take 4 million people to court averaging 350,000 people a month being sent court summons for not paying. dvla would crash and burn with the influx of non payers. sounds bad but it would work. bad enough that our tax money is spent on getting banks out of debt or given to the next immirgrant thats fleeing for there life sucking the system dry, from national health to benefits to get free housing and food. they dont pay fuel tax on gas or electric they get it free and then drive round in cars the government paid for, probably get free petrol aswell....sorry but fuel tax is just the tip of the iceberg of a government that is incompitent and gordon brown is very dim. the government is the peoples voice TO the Queen she rules britain is it time to bring back sovereignty? and to be ruled by her alone?
gordon you are not the one in charge, the tax paying people of britain are. you are just a finacial manager/accountant that is very poor at his job and losing the taxpayer's faith. would you invest money into a busness to see no return??? that is what the taxpayer is doing now being overtaxed and getting nothing back, like better roads, better national health, a state pension??? YES PROTEST FOR LOWER FUEL PRICES BUT WE SHOULD NOT STOP THERE PROTEST FOR A BETTER BRITAIN!!!! WE ARE THE VOICE

Posted by Andrew Davies, 11th December 2007 2:21am

This whole situation is getting out of control,the consumer is getting hit left,right & centre on all fronts these days and the cost of fuel is leading the way.When is the government going to realise that the people of this country can only take so much.Of course we all manage to survive but the financial burden that is continually heaped upon us is beyond belief.
I happen to be be one of the lucky ones who has a job to go to,but my income is being stretched to breaking point,i don't know how other people manage.Lets get this protest going!

Posted by Stephen Davis, 11th December 2007 2:21am

I think its a disgrace considering the cost of fuel in the US at $3.40 a gallon! and the canada Vancouver @ $1.16 a liter of 91 octane.
It seems that the UK is being made to pay for the low inflation of US fuel and they are complaining at cost!
I agree its time that the people in the UK started to make a stand against this unelected Dictator of a Prime Minister and his proven damaging government..

Government is supposed to look after the best interests of its own people and this one seems to be failing in all areas currently. Its about time they were made to realise why and who put them there and who will remove them.

I support everything you are doing best of luck!

Posted by Robert Hexter, 11th December 2007 2:28am

Hi, I would just like to point out the obvious, it is not just our fuel prices that go up (every time there is a fuel price increase), it is everything that is transported and operated by fuel. Yes from the Farmers trucks, plant machinery(building), heating, trains, boats, planes, cars, buses, transport to manufactures, the transporting of goods to retailers, then the actual purchases we make!

If the inital process goes up by 1p (1.175 inc VAT) this then multiplies at every stage of the process, until we the consumer pay the price! Oh and lets not forget when prices go up they don't go up by 1.175p becasue they are always rounded up so it may turnout to be 2p by the hauliers, by the time we pay it may be an increase of 10p for any item.

Look at the price of the essentials: Bread, Milk how much have they gone up by in the last 1 years alone, milk has risen by 10 - 20p, a so called good branded loaf of bread is over a pound now, so it is clear to see that we as a nation need to stand up for our rights, the rights to by goods at a resonable price. if we do not do something now, in maybe 10 years many people will not be able to afford the basic food essentials, let alone drive a car.

What about the hidden costs to our national health service, the government cry that it is struggling to keep the NHS afloat with people living longer, but how much extra are fuel prices costing the NHS, do they get any more money when the fuel prices rise?

I would like to see a full brakedown of how much money is gathered from fuel, vehicle tax and new car sales taxes alone, and then compare that to how much money is put into our roads?

I have to say that this country is now a TAX country, you pay tax on your earning, your saving, your pension, any investments you have, your car, MOT, insurance, gas, electricity, food (indirectly through transport), alcohol, smoking etc etc etc.

If you are lucky enough to earn £20000 you will pay approximately:
30% TAC & NI = £6000 £14000
£720 gas & elec =£720 £13280
council TAX =£1600 £12680
water rates =£200 £12480
vehicle maintenance =£600 £11880
Fuel £100pcm =£1200 £10680
vehicle TAX =£160 £10520
food bill £70/wk =£3640 £6880
Vehicle Insurance =£600 £6280
House Insurance =£350 £5930
TV Licence =£110 £5820
Telephone =£240 £5580
TV package =£240 £5340
Mobile Phone =£160 £5180
Pension £25/wk =£1300 £3880
Mortgage/Rent £300pcm=£3600 £280

So let me see if you live alone you will have all of £280 to spend on YOU! I would hate to calculate how much af the above is TAX alone, I remeber seeing something somewhere saying approximately 60% of your salary is eaten up by tax, after you have paid all your bills and bought everything you need and want. Nice hey, and yet so many people want to come to this country to live here? that puzzels me?

Sorry to put a downer on things but hey thats life in the UK, Oh if forgot to mention that if you have the money for a holiday that it taxed too!

Posted by Dave Williams, 11th December 2007 2:30am

Price of fuel up. Price of everything up.

Posted by Will Kenton, 11th December 2007 2:52am

Price of fuel up.Price of everything up.

Posted by Will Kenton, 11th December 2007 2:55am

LET ME TELL EVERONE AS AN EX TANKER DRIVER IT ONLY COSTS 40P TO MAKE 1LTR OF PETROL ( FACT NOT FICTION ) GO 4 IT LETS SORT THIS OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL SCREW THE GOVERMENT B4 IT WELL AND TRULY SCREWS US

Posted by Cammy, 11th December 2007 2:56am

I used to be an international trucker, if the French motorists and truckers were being screwed by their government on fuel prices they would have closed every refinery and fuel depot in France down, until they forced the price down.

Posted by John Henry Duncan, 11th December 2007 3:08am

With fuel actually only costing 24p a litre, the rest is 2p to the forecourt owner and the rest to the Government.
I ride a GSXR 1100 cc motorcycle which was manufactured in 1989 and set the carburettors to burn less fuel with retarded ignition and cleaner burn. Why have I told you this? Well, since then additives that do nothing in the petrol to aid propulsion actually, add to the risk of cancer (think NHS) and are one of the reasons for the price hike.
The additives work better with fuel injectors that send some of the fuel past the point of detonation to allow catalytic converters to clean up the emissions with a second burn. This is one of the reasons we have thirsty gas-guzzling cars that are supposed to burn leaner and as a result use less fuel and allow for a cleaner atmosphere.
Have you ever asked yourself why MPG is not increasing? The reason is to sell more fuel to make more for the coffers of the Government in tax.
The tax hike will encourage more road users not to tax/insure their vehicles because the Traffic Police have been in a rapid decline over the last 8 years. You don't see road blocks, speed traps and a heavy Police presence in bad weather! You do see untaxed vehicles that are being driven along the unclassified roads where they are more likely to knock down some unfortunate person who can't afford the fuel to put into their vehicle. I know a group of people who have run their diesels on chip fat oil and red diesel for years and have never been stopped in 20 years that I know. What a saving! I know it is not right or PC to suggest this but why not? When, the Government are robbing us blind. Shame I haven't got a diesel motorcycle!
So, Hurray! to sites like this one that allow us to make our stand. I have a Road Angel Classic that has saved me hundreds of pounds in fuel and fines. You see! The lower the gear i.e. 1,2,3, the higher the engine revolution the more fuel you burn. Not in built up areas but out on the open road 56 mph is more frugal compared to the 1,2,3, of town commuting. No fines after being distracted by the swerving uninsured road user in front and Speed Cameras are like the Poll Tax, unfair and wrecks lives.

Posted by Andy Grey, 11th December 2007 3:21am

Don't worry, the price will come down soon because the US has gone into recession and this will drop their demand for oil. The oil price has already dropped because of this and will drop further as the recession deepens.

As the recession in the US deepens it will spread to the rest of the world which will mean the oil demand will drop further and the price will follow. So, soon we will have cheap oil and also we won't have to use nearly as much because we won't have jobs because the recession will have taken them.

Apart from civil servants and local government workers of course, who will still be paid by the taxes of those few people still working. That will put the price of oil up a little because the government will have to increase the tax on fuel to pay the civil servants and local government workers.

What to do? Start digging your garden to grow your own food because food will be one of your largest outlays. Keep a few rabbits and guinea pigs as well, they make fine eating. Buy some chickens, for eggs and meat when they get older, (boil them up well with the pluck as well and you'll get a good broth) to keep on food scraps , not that there will be many, you won't be able to afford to waste anything any more.

As we come out of recession the demand for fuel will go up, as will the price, but there won't be as much oil left by then because the world is running out, so the price will go even higher. This will put the US into recession again. And so it will go on, in an ever downward spiral, until we finally do run out of oil in about 200 year time and our great grandchildren won't be driving cars at all.

No worries then!!

Posted by Ken Neal, 11th December 2007 3:51am

I totally support this protest!!

Just thinking of all families on low incomes who have to send their small children to nurseries (which cost a fortune!!) to work because of tax increase!!!

I have to work nights to try and get a decent wage and i am forced to put my child in nursery to try and get the sleep i need!!,i am running out of fuel too!!!

There has been many occasions where i have not gone to work because the car ran out of fuel on the way or i am exhausted by lack of sleep!!!

If i can't work, i cannot put food in my kids mouths or pay bills for the house!!!

Do the government care?? NO!!!
What the government want is what they get!!
WELL NO MORE!

FULL SUPPORT FOR THE PROTEST!!!!

Posted by Joanne Taylor, 11th December 2007 4:44am

We must ALL make a stand and stand united. The taxes in this country are crippling us, my husband will soon not be able to afford to go to work as he works 50 miles away 100 miles round trip four days a week and it is costing him £200 per month just to go to work which is scandalous.
The government want people to work but then make it difficult to do so because of so many unfair taxes in this country.

Posted by Hilary Smith, 11th December 2007 5:10am

I'm a self employed "white van man" I started my little business in Nov 2002, deisel was around "£0.799 ppl or £3.63 a gallon, I can only get around £0.55 (round trip) pence per mile (ppm) from my customers. with an average fuel return of of 27 mpg that meant it used cost me £0.13 ppm to run my van leaving me £0.42 ppm from which to put aside money for tax, maintainance, replacing the van, and money to live on. Now I can only charge £0.01ppm than 4 years ago, my customers wont pay any more of an increase to me, so where does that leave me? Deisel at £1.059 ppl or £4.82 per gallon that equats to £0.18 ppm or a 38.4% increase in running costs, insurance has gone up, goods in tansit insurance has gone up, public liability insurance has gone up, road tax gone up, fuel costs gone up, maintainance and spares costs gone up, road and bridge tolls gone up, parking ticket fines gone up, the probability of getting a speeding ticket (irrespective of how careful you are) gone up, overall road maintainance gone down, congestion, gone up hours worked to fulfill my job, gone up, foreign competion gone up, people going bust and owing you money, gone up, the time it takes to get paid, gone up. We are being shafted right left and centre by the goverment, i'm a law abiding bloke, your average married guy with 2 grown up kids 24 and 22 (both living at home because they cant get a council flat or house and have no chance of getting on the house buying ladder) and a mortgage, we must now make a stand agianst this insane government policy of raping motorists whoever you may be, from the rural motorist to the fleet hauliers enough is enough, I WOULD SUPPORT MASS CIVIL DISOBEIDIENCE TO OUST THIS PACK OF IDIOTS, BEFORE WE ALL GO DOWN THE PAN. This country has nothing left to offer honest hard working people anymore, political correctness and money wasting on insane government policies has ruined this country, there is NO Great in Britain anymore, time to get thehell out of the UK, SAD BUT TRUE!

Posted by Dennis Smith, 11th December 2007 5:15am

The current price of fuel is going to put huge inflationary presure on the economy of this country, Yet as normal we continually vote in people to govern us whose only interest is their own advancement, not what we the people put them there for. A major improvement would occur if we stop voting for politicians who do not do as they say they will do. Good luck to the fuel protest, but I doubt it will do much good because to work it will have to go on long enough to hurt the government, but in doing so will hurt us more.

Posted by Kim Blackburn, 11th December 2007 5:31am

'Ditto' Dennis,
We've seen it before though... remember?
And what became of it? Errm,... that would be nix, jack, nothing, nada, 'sweet eff-all'! What's the point? Either way I'm supporting it for what good it'll do.
You know something? Some Brits' slag-off the French for whatever reason, but if we had half the balls they had it would never have reached this stage!

Oh! Dennis, relax mate, and regards to your family.
Nick

Posted by Nicholas Burgess, 11th December 2007 5:47am

Disgusted at this government for making us pay rediculous prices not just on diesel but on house bills like gas and electric!! Im currently a mature student mother of 2 trying to make ends meet on a lousy bursary!! An increase is truly harder for me as i rely on my car to take children back an forth school and get to early morning shifts at local hospital!!! BRING ON THE PROTEST I FULLY SUPPORT AND WILL ACTIVELY JOIN TO MAKE A STAND to increase the pressure and force the government to lower the price of diesel....

Posted by Gothika, 11th December 2007 6:02am

I'm relaxed Nick,
Just about to head South to give "cuddly ken "another £8 congestion charge for the privilage of getting a parking ticket in Regent Street London, (not to mention the hour it will probablly take to get from there to the Blackwall tunnel) I've a delivery to do that cant be done anywhere within a square mile of Regent Street that does not have a double yellow line or one of those bloody traffic wardens, ah well time to drop the kegs and get shafted once more. As for the French I salute them, they have more spine than the Brits, Merry Christmas to you and yours (notice I said Christmas not seasons greetings GOT IT IN QUICK BEFORE THE PC BRIGAGE CENSORED IT)

Posted by Dennis Smith, 11th December 2007 6:10am

I am 100% behind these fuel protests are going ahead. If it affects my ability to be able to fill my tank, then so be it. Prices are ridiculously high now, and the governments have got away with it for far too long, It is well documented on how much of this price is tax and Gordon Brown must do something about it now.
I am disabled and need the use of my car, but I am unable afford to because the price for diesel in my area is £1.06 a Litre.
Wishing everybody all the success on the forthcoming protests, I am with you all the way.

Posted by Barry Ebsworthy, 11th December 2007 6:44am

Great Britain? Free speech? what a joke, this Country is more like a dictatorship..... WE SAY.YOU DO. In Russia the only thing that the public do not do is vote so it is probably in the best interest to move there and let all the immigrants have this Counrty for themselves. There is nothing great about Britain anymore which is why you see more and more Brits moving to another country because they are getting fed up of all the taxes, telling us we cant smoke, telling us we have to pay £1.08 for a litre of petrol. Time for a revolution.

Posted by Paul Capps, 11th December 2007 7:11am

I am a widow and frequently visit my family, the nearest daughter living about 4 hrs. drive from where I live. With petrol prices increasing how long before I am unable to do this? Gordon Brown doesn't have the same worries. He's driven around in a luxurious car all the time which uses a lot more petrol than my little car. Also, when petrol prices increase everything else increases in price as they have to be transported.
It has become very depressing to live in this Country.
Liz

Posted by Elizabeth Sloan, 11th December 2007 7:13am

I BACK IT FULLY! We in Briton pay the most for EVERYTHING! and that's a fact!. We seem to put up with it too!. It's time we fight back!. NOW IS THE TIME!

Posted by Denise Hempsall, 11th December 2007 7:17am

The Government clain that fuel price increases are to make our environment 'greener' by penalising the motorists that have 'gas guzzling cars' this is a lie.
If the Government were really concerned about the environmental impact of combustion engines, why don't they harness the millions of gallons of free fuel that is wasted every day?
At Barrow in Furness there is a gas terminal that brings Morecambe bay gas ashore, and at this terminal there is a flame stack that burns 24 hours a day. I have been informed that this flame stack is powered by LPG, which is considered to be an industrial waste in this industry.
Lpg can power both petrol & diesel engines now, so the governement could have a real impact on the environment by capturing this fuel, and supplying it to operators of public transport at a minimum cost. This would not only make public transport 'greener' but would also susidise the industry, and allow them to reduce the fares, which would entice more people to use it.
Fuel duty is just another way for modern govenments to take money from the working man to help pay for their own disgusting pay hikes every year.
Come on Gordon be fair, at least D1ck Turpin had the decency to wear a mask!!

Posted by Jools, 11th December 2007 7:23am

Nowt new that the prices kkep on hiking upwards due to the robber barons that sit in power. No matter who is elected, they all do the same and that is to hit the working man. With increased petrol prices comes increased cost of food and living but we do not get that increase in our wages. Also because of the 'legalised thieving' these barons utilise a loophole that they have created so that we pay for their housing.

Posted by Richard Kaminski, 11th December 2007 7:25am

As said earlier - rip off Britain strikes again. It's not a democracy anymore as they do what they want, no matter how many of us tell them not to. As soon as my kids are all out of school I will be moving abroad as I am sick of being taken to the cleaners by the fat "I'm alright Jack" politicians that only seem intent on lining their own pockets.
Doesn't matter who you vote in, once they are there they have 2 options.
1. fight for the public
2. go with the flow and start linning their pockets?
It will always be like that. They might have the best intentions getting to parliament, but once they are there they get greedy and just blend in with the rest of the "I'm all right Jacks".
We need a revolution to sort this country out, it's lost it's identity, and the infrastructure is at breaking point but no one can see it other than the public???
Why can't we be like Australia, New Zealand, etc,etc and look after our own first and foremost? Why do we let spongers take the p*ss and just keep throwing money at them?
15 years and I am outta here and it's not right, I used to love being English...but now whats the point?

Posted by Kellye Stephens, 11th December 2007 7:29am

The Government is having a laugh - we the consumer are continually pushed to the limit to cough up to get our children to school and ourselves to work - increased fuel prices have a domino effect on the economy and in the end everyone is affected.

In the last six years fuel has gone from about 76p a litre to the astronomical £1 something - come on Gordon, sharpen your pencil...

Posted by Sharon Dunn, 11th December 2007 7:41am

About time. England is always getting walked over by this government and we never do anything about. If this was another country we would have be protesting weeks ago.

I just hope everyone backs the protests to the end and not turn there backs and stop supporting like last time.

Posted by Joanne Lane, 11th December 2007 7:42am

I bought a fuel efficient diesel to ensure I was spending as little as possible on fuel (like many many other company car drivers) - as well as doing my bit for the environment, and what happens? The Government cottons on to the switch and hikes diesel fuel prices well above petrol. And more recently decided that they would virtually kill off diesel cars with crippling tax penalties and technical "fixes" yet to be decided in 2008.

I am now switching back to an even higher efficiency, low CC, turbocharged petrol engine to switch back to lower cost petrol. What's the betting they cotton on to this once we all start to do it.

No one these days can really afford public transport and even if you did, you can't get a seat on a train (or a train at all, in some instances). Bus transport is a joke where I live and so I am forced to commute by car. Guess what - the M25 is at a complete standstill more often than not!

The transportation system in this country is a National disgrace - the Government should be ashamed of itself.

Posted by George Richardson, 11th December 2007 7:47am

Its stupid to think that petrol only costs approx 37p a litre and the rest is TAX!!
I paid £1.07 per litre yesterday for diesel, Its a rip-off by the government again!!

Glad someone has decided enough is enough!!!

I offer all my support

Posted by Catters, 11th December 2007 7:51am

I drive for a large public transport group. They are losing about £500,000 extra a week on fuel due to rises. They may be able to reclaim some of the duty back but it is not enough to cover there costs on top of the need for newer vehicles for impending regulations. Fares will go up and I need my car to get to the depot to drive. There are no buses at 4am when i am needed to work. How are we supposed to use public transport when the government keep putting fuel up and new buses use more fuel with emmisions requlation too the costs will be passed on.

Posted by David Pearson, 11th December 2007 7:57am

I am sick of hearing about 'peak fuel, etc, etc'. This government is taxing us to hell and gone! Nowhere else in the world is fuel so expensive.

The British have become complacent in the fight for their rights.

And as for comment number 2999 that as pensioners we have no reason to use our cars, now that really made me fume. A pensioner still has the right of freedom of choice. How would you like to wait in the cold and rain for a bus which is usually full and unbearably hot when you reach that age? And how would you like to struggle down the street with your shopping. When you get your bus pass I'd like to hear how many times you use the bus mate!!

The government are supposed to be servants of the people, they should be taking onboard the dissatisfaction.

Posted by Margaret Thomas, 11th December 2007 7:59am

I am a driving instructor, and as you might expect usually cover around 600-700miles a week, so thats usually 2 tanks a week.
since the price hikes, my weekly fuel bill has gone up by approx £10.
as a result of this i am having to put up my lesson prices, which means these young pupils who dont work due to college/uni, are not going to be able to continue paying the rising lesson prices, and so stop having lessons, which means no work for me, and not able to pay mortgage.
I think the govt are taking too much tax off us, by all means, and its about time we stand up and fight for our rights.

Posted by Rob Gwilliams, 11th December 2007 8:03am

I really hope this has the desired effect. It is about time this goverment was held to account for its actions against the hard work majority of this country.

Why is always the same groups of the population that get hit with tax rise after tax rise.

It seems unless you scab off the state or are really rich you get no breaks from this government

Dougie

Posted by Dougie, 11th December 2007 8:04am

During these last 10 years we have had the LEAST amount of fuel tax increase in history. Had there been a Conservative Govt. we would be paying more then £1.47 a litre thanks to their fuel tax escalator plan.

Would another Conservative Govt. reduce fuel duty? Never, because one cannot have a green agenda and at the same time reduce fuel duty.

Ask Cameron about this and he would zip his lips! So anyone suggesting the notion of reducing fuel duty to get elected is living in Cuckoo land!

What happens if duty is reduced and the price of fuel goes up to say $190 a barrel? Are we trying to go green or do you lot want an easy life with all the consequences that follow? Or maybe you lot are contemplating to invade the Oil producing countries and take control of the oil reserves! Because that is what we did in our colonialist shameful hey days!

I say let there be more increases so that new technology comes out faster then it is!

By the way, I drive an 1800cc petrol vehicle, and I do not complain.

GROW UP AND STOP BEHAVING LIKE CHILDREN !!

Posted by Albert Dalli, 11th December 2007 8:05am

I will take part in any fuel protest. The governement has been soaking the motorist for long enough. Take no more.

Posted by Marcus Eden-ellis, 11th December 2007 8:06am

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Posted by Peakoil, 11th December 2007 8:12am

blockade, blockade everywhere, ports, fuek stations, refining stations, motorways, blockade anything that has ecomnomical importance.

Bring the country to a standstill, make it so bad the goverment have to drop tax, lets not stop half hearted like last time, bring the country to its knees, its the only way to show that the British people will not take the kind of rubbish from the goverment. I am not a militant, i just believe we live in a democracy, and we have the freedom of speech and freedom to act within the law of the land, and the goverment don't listen to anything the people who put them there have to say. Show them who is in control, show them who has the power to get them sacked, the people, and as the people we should do everything that we can to fight for what we believe in and fight for those who can't.

Posted by Ben Warrender, 11th December 2007 8:14am

I think its disgusting how we have been ripped off with the price of petrol, I say Go GO Go to the Protest, I'm all for it the Gov have not learnt their lesson from last time. Its time to some them again.

Posted by Bhavna Patel, 11th December 2007 8:24am

If the strike works it could stop Public Sector Workers getting to their place of employment. If this happens then Prison Officers, Police, Fire Fighters etc could be prevented from doing their job. Along with all the other inportant day to day workers of course. Maybe then the Government would listen. I work for the public sector and find it harder and harder to run a car even on my descent wage The government wouldn't like it if this affected the day to day running of country. They would take notice then. Come on lets strike !!!! I'm all for affordable alternatives !! So lets hear about them !!!

Posted by Nbd, 11th December 2007 8:26am

Cars are cheaper, more reliable, better, and more accessible than ever.

Fuel prices are rising at a lower rate than most other prices, and are less than they were thirty years ago.

The tax take is falling.

What is the problem, apart from the fact that there are too many cars and they are poisoning us?

Posted by Herb Cooper, 11th December 2007 8:28am

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