21.05.08 PetrolPrices.com backs the Telegraph to get a 'Fair Deal for Drivers'

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Should the 2p rise, and all future fuel duty rises, be scrapped?


Now is not a good time for UK motorists - the average price of unleaded has hit £5 a gallon, the UK has had a month of record-breaking prices, and the difference between the cost of petrol and diesel is at its highest ever. In an attempt to highlight the spiralling cost of motoring PetrolPrices.com is supporting the Telegraph's campaign for a 'Fairer Deal for Drivers'.

Figures from PetrolPrices.com show that the UK has had unprecedented rises in the cost of fuel – we have now had over 5 weeks of record-breaking prices where almost every day has broken the record of the day before.

The national average price of unleaded has risen 5.9p in the last 5 weeks, from 107.8p to 113.7p. Diesel has risen an eye watering 9.2p per litre in the same period, from 116.8p to 126.0p.

This means that the average unleaded car now costs £2.95 more to fill up, at £56.85 a tank compared to £53.90 last month. Diesel drivers are now paying an extra £4.60 per tank, up from £58.40 last month to £63.00 today.

Parts of the UK are now hitting 124.9p for unleaded and 137.0p for diesel, whilst the cheapest fuel available has risen again – 111.9p for unleaded and 118.9p for diesel.
Since the beginning of the year unleaded has jumped 10.7p per litre from 103.0p, and diesel was 107.9p, making the rise an alarming 18.1p per litre. That equates to a rise of 10% and 17% respectively.

As a result of the rises PetrolPrices.com estimates that the government is earning an extra £1.2m per day in duty and VAT compared to this time last month.

The national average for unleaded smashed through the £5 a gallon barrier earlier this month, and the latest figures show that 96% of stations across the UK are now selling at or above this price (109.9p per litre).

Petrol and Diesel Prices 2008


On top of increasing fuel prices there has been a 50% increase in the amount of car-related tax in the last 10 years, taking the total to an average of £1800 a year in fuel duty, car tax, VAT on fuel and other levies.

The campaign, 'Fair Deal for Drivers' aims to pressure the government into reducing the cost of driving by scrapping the 2p duty rise planned for October, and to abandon plans to increase vehicle excise duty next year for owners of cars registered before 2006. The campaign also urges the government to consider other measures to help drivers during this period of high fuel prices.

You can sign the petition here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/05/07/do0710.xml

The petition is backed by the AA, the RAC, the Conservative Party and dozens of Labour MP's. Past petitions and protests have failed due to a lack of organisation and awareness, but with the cost of fuel currently rocketing and the government on the back foot, now seems like the ideal time to push for action. This petition, with the support of an influential newspaper, respected motoring groups, MP's and PetrolPrices.com members, has the power to force Gordon Brown to rethink plans to raise motoring taxes.

If you've suffered as a result of the rising cost of motoring and think it's time drivers got together to make their voices heard then sign the petition, forward it on to friends, family and colleagues, and help make other drivers aware by posting it to social bookmarking sites such as Digg, Reddit and del.icio.us.

What do you think the government should do about rising petrol prices? Have you noticed an increase in your fuel bill? What are you doing to combat the rocketing cost of fuel? Leave us a comment on the blog below.

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lets get one thing straight,the goverment ain,t going to listen to any thing what is said,so the only way i see is like this,do it the french way block ports and bring the whole country to a complete standstill untill the idiots in parliament sit up and listen

Posted by Steve Drewett, 4th June 2008 10:50am

The three most significant factors causing the rise in oil are:- speculation by fund managers, the desire by the producing countries to get the same price for their raw material per gallon as our government gets by way of tax per gallon, the inability of this totally incompetent government to be able to show any temporary relief for it's people. This effects all of us, not just the motorists amongst us. Gordon "The Moron" Brown has literally bust this country, and indeed the problems that we are seeing and feeling NOW would have manifested themselves long before now if his bacon had not been saved by two other incredibly well-timed oil crisis in the past decade.

Posted by Bob Hedley, 4th June 2008 12:40pm

Personally this rising cost of petrol has crippled me, I live 20 miles from where I work (I can't afford to live any closer - prices are ridiculous), I would get the train but it doesn't work out any cheaper, plus it's a good 25 minute walk from my house - which isn't a problem in the morning but walking back there late at night in an unsafe area is not a good idea - and getting a taxi will just cost even more. They have cancelled so many buses too that getting one would make my journey to work 1.5 hours EACH WAY. I'm already driving a slower, less direct route to conserve petrol but if it keeps rising I don't know what I'm going to do! Do they even think about people like me?

Posted by Fiona Kenny, 4th June 2008 12:47pm

i am in the same position as a lot of people with the fact that i am self employed and need a van for work,the wife has a car for her work & then i have my car for personal use ( all on finance so cant be sold ) since the rises in fuel i could well be out of work before long as i will go broke. The point is i think that the unemployment rate is set to go through the roof with people not being allowed to work through no fault of their own so the goverment will then be even more out of pocket as they will have to finance even more unemploymant

Posted by Adrian Lane-wells, 4th June 2008 12:51pm

I am a car enthusiast but also a cyclist to which I commute to work - more so lately. I support the "green" argument to a certain degree however I do believe the Government uses this as a smoke screen to pile on more and more stealth taxes, hitting the law abiding (weve heard it all before) easy target of that is the motorist. A diesel car is more economical, more range to a tank but with the current gap between petrol and diesel becoming wider on a weekly basis it does make you ponder how much youre saving. With our high tax band surely we could have absorbed these price hikes at the pump, but no with the raise on crude its slapped onto us. Where does the tax investment go, yes our transport system aint the worst but compared to other Western Economies, notable France and Germany we are no where near as advanced in terms of realistic,efficient transport services. It cannot be said for most people, who work hard and to which travelling is a necessity in the job they do, that public tranport is a realistic option. A 10 hour day would become a 15 hour day x 5 days a week thats a huge increase in additional working hours. Lets get this price down, my full support

Posted by Andrew Picken, 4th June 2008 12:54pm

My fuel bill has gone up by £20 per month and I have also noticed my shopping bill has increased considerably. This is unacceptable and something should be done to make the government realise they are put into power to do the best for the electorate and not line their own pockets at our expense.
I think they are all the same labour, tory, liberals as they promise to change and as soon as they get into power its what they want not the people who voted for them. Time it was sorted.

Posted by Moira Watkins, 4th June 2008 1:48pm

What they need to do is think about other people when charging people for fuel because of the rise every haulage company has to loose a driver every single time fuel goes up maybe not for big companies but smaller companies are struggling instead of goverment thinking about how much they can earn from the tax from fuel instead they should worry about what could happen to the haulage industry.

Posted by Jonathan Lugton, 4th June 2008 1:49pm

There are a lot of people making a lot of money out of these fuel prices at the expense of the general public. One of the biggest supermarkets in St Austell are selling there fuel above the price of anyone else, more then BP & Texaco garages. No wonder they have billions of pounds in profits.
What about the Arab nations that supply the oil, the oil companies and speculators . Fat cats getting fatter on our misery,

Where is all the money going to that the government are raking in every day, and they are not satisfied with that. They want to increase car tax for cars that are older then 3 years and put the charge under the disguise of green taxes. Its the poorer people who have the older cars and once again they are going to be penalised.
Surely this government can see the plight of the country and where we are heading. Its time they done something about it or the way the country is going it will be taken out of there hands with the ordinary people rebelling, as the truck drivers & fisherman are now.
Someone please see sense before its too late.

Posted by David Lee, 4th June 2008 2:06pm

Please bring fuel back to under £1 per Litre asap and reduce the tax from 58% to a reasonable rate

Posted by Celia Douthwaite, 4th June 2008 2:59pm

The government should STOP being so greedy. They based their taxes on an oil price of between $70 and $80 a barrel but now they are around $130. The government dont take a set fee, they take a percentage therefore they are raking in millions of pounds extra over and above what they budgetted for. Its about time they started taking a standard amount instead of a percentage. I think the percentage currently stands at around 65% WHY so high?
65% of $80 = $52 therefore they can manage on $52 dollars which they originally budgetted for. 65% of $130 = $84.5 a barrel. Now $84.5 - $52 = $32.5 a barrel is what the government is taking over and above what they budgetted for!!!
Its the GOVERNMENT being GREEDY that is our problem. The price of petrol could EASILY fall below £1 a litre if only OUR ELECTED GOVERNMENT will be fair with everyone.

Posted by John Colman, 4th June 2008 3:11pm

Fuel prices in the uk are outragous. When are the British people going to make a stand. We cannot carry on with this. It is not just the petrol prices that effect us its also the knock on effect that the petrol prices cause.
Where does it stop?

Posted by A Enever, 4th June 2008 3:30pm

The UK is still one of the very few countries of the world where diesel is more expensive than petrol. It costs a fraction of the amount of time and money to refine diesel compared with petrol.
Diesel is also less polluting to the environment. Therefore, why are we paying so much more for it??
The government is trying to make us "greener", so why not reduce the cost of diesel and encourage people to get diesel cars?
It must simply be down to them making a lot more money from diesel than petrol.

Posted by Daniel Carrick, 4th June 2008 4:02pm

The government should be considerate and pass on some benefits of the additional tax revenue to the road users.

Posted by Fred, 4th June 2008 4:09pm

Not only should the Government scrap the proposed 2p/lit rise, but it should also go back to prices before these major rises, calculate what tax and duty it was raising and work out what that means as pence per litre, then reset current prices to reflect the same pence per litre. There is no reason why the Government should benefit from our misfortune - this is in effect yet another stealth tax and is completely unethical and unacceptable.

Posted by Steven Parkinson, 4th June 2008 4:12pm

I have been in Dumpton Park Garage Ramsgate Road Broadstairs 16.50hrs 4th June 2008 and the diesel was £1.16 per litre. I don't no if the price was a mistake or for real. I never said anything about it and nether did the bloke who works there.

Posted by Micko, 4th June 2008 5:13pm

I'm an economics student, and I am aware of the concept of fiscal policy as a way of reducing demand for de-merit goods. However, petrol is price inelastic, making this ineffective, and even if it was going to work what is the point of increasing the fuel tax by 2p if the market has done that itself? Gordon Brown is an economic genius, but this is definitely a Mr Brean policy!

Posted by Neil Scott, 4th June 2008 5:15pm

This would have made more sense before the current source price-rises, but it would still bring home the amount of money we are paying in duty: filling station forecourt banners should show the price of fuel WITHOUT any duty, then stickers on the pumps would show the price you'll actually have to pay.

Posted by Graeme Dawes, 4th June 2008 6:00pm

Hi, i would like to know why tesco charges 1.16.9p a litre in York when just around the corner its 1.14.9? So I asked. Tesco staff agree its a rip off and are tired of people complaining yet the price stays 2p more. As a nation we have always been led to believe that the supermarkets are cheapest place to buy fuel as they sell it in huge amounts (ha ).......lets hope the very nice man at the local press really does run his stroy!!

Posted by Eva Lambert, 4th June 2008 6:14pm

Can someone tell me how much does petrol cost in other parts of the world Arabic coulntries and USA? I've been told that we are the highest petrol price yet we supply the fuel to a lot of Europe. Why do we put up with being fleeced in all parts of our spending. Also does this or any other goverment really care about the PEOPLE? If you think so please say why if not please say why not.

Posted by Elfos, 4th June 2008 6:53pm

Since my last post this morning at 09.49, i came past the same Texaco garage and yes you've guessed it the price of unleaded has increased since this morning at 2.30 this afternoon it's was at 117.09p,

This situation is just getting beyond control, not a single week goes by when petrol/diesel doesn't get hiked up by profiteering petrol garages, because thats what i see it as, with these constant price hikes,

These garages are just "extracting the urine" now,

Ok so what are we the going to do about as a nation we surly cannot afford this any more, so what of next week then the price will be hitting 149.09p at the rates it rising and quite possibly the price of unleaded will be beyond the means or mere mortals by the end of 2008.

Posted by Jez, 4th June 2008 7:03pm

THE FUEL PRICES ARE FAR TO HIGH GORDON BROWN SHOULD SCRAP THE RISE IN TAX AND INSTED LOWER IT SO WE ALL CAN STILL AFORD TO GET TO WORK

Posted by Vincent Doyle, 4th June 2008 7:20pm

Why does "Being Green" to this govenment just mean tax people more ? how does that make us a greener and not just poorer?

Posted by Paul Priedkalns, 4th June 2008 8:38pm

I wouldn't mind half so much for the price increases on petrol, if the money was ploughed back into maintaining the roads to an acceptable level. As it is, not one road I drive on is free from pot holes or needing repair. Also, If a decent transportation system across the country was in place, I wouldn't mind using my car less, but as it is, its not practical for me to use local transport to get to work.

Posted by Gill Stevens, 4th June 2008 9:05pm

past and present governments have taxed the motorist so much over the years and now there is no room for menoeuver in raising taxes. Its so
unfair on the motorist who does not do a great deal of mileage(not a slave to
their Car!) If prices continue the way they are going, my car might have to
go after giving up other things in life to have this luxury and working very ,
very hard to keep it on the road!Dont approve of bio fuels as it use crops
that should be used to feed people. scientist will just have to work
harder to find another solution to try and make things greener and cheaper
for the motorist.

Posted by Miss Mairi Wright, 4th June 2008 9:26pm

Typical mealy-mouthed English attitudes and comments...

"Lets do something... this is disgusting!"

yet they do.... NOTHING!

Blah blah blah blah... keep talking sheep.

Posted by Andy M, 4th June 2008 10:08pm

I think this government is like the saying goes, "the blind leading the blind"

The hard working men and women of our country are being well and truly made to suffer. Not only does Mr Brown think its a marvelous idea to scrap the 10 pence tax band which ultimately puts the low paid workers in the poor house even further, and puts money in the pockets of the high earners, we are paying through the nose to put fuel in our cars.

Due to the fuel price rises we have seen food bills go up as the transportation costs are higher. When will this ever end? Where are we supposed to find the extra monies from to subsist.

Labour is a taxing government, tax for this, tax for that, tax for the other, and they will continue to tax, tax, tax.

Open up your eyes Mr Brown and have a look around you. You and your Labour colleagues purport to be a government with the working class people in our society held close to your hearts. You can no longer fool us. You are now become transparent and we will not be fooled by your government any longer.

TIME TO GO!

Posted by Sharon Collins, 4th June 2008 10:34pm

Regarding Shaun Hogan's comments above - he should leave out Tesco as an alternative to buying from Esso or BP - as most Tesco stores petrol stations are supplied by ESSO.

Posted by John Malick, 4th June 2008 11:12pm

Oh dear the doom and gloom merchants are out in force here. We may,or even may not be in the mystical doom bringing peak oil scenario. How did oil get to $100 a barrel? All because some muppet wanted to be the first broker to pay $100 a barrel. He then sold them immediately at a loss. Smart broker eh?
Remember Jan 1st 2000, everything was going to fail, planes would fall out of the sky, oil refineries would stop working ( at least its on topic), petrol stations would stop working (again on topic), people started to stock up on food and move into the country and become self sufficient. What happened? Nothing, feck all, not a thing, nada. Petrolpries.com started this debate as the tax we pay to the government on fuel is to high, we pay fuel tax, then VAT on that fuel tax, taxed twice on one product, is that fair? The rise in VED isn't a green tax, its just another tax and one that is going to hit the motorist on a low budget or low income families. It will hit smaller second hand car dealers as no one will want the cars that attract a higher tax, putting more people out of business. Some people may even start using public transport more, anyone knows that that the public transport in this country cant cope. So what will the do? Put more buses and trains in use, increasing oil consumption and increasing oil process through demand. Everyone knows that buses are more polluting than an average car, so how is that green? High oil prices may be here to stay, or are they? Who knows what will happen. If you start a rumor someone at some point will start to believe it and then it becomes fact, even if its not.

There are as always a number of self confessed "experts" on here and the usual believers that we are all doomed.

A person is smart, people are dumb. Make up your own minds as to what is happening people, and don't believe everything you read.

Petrol prices near me are 103.9 for unleaded and 109.9 for diesel. Where do I live? Well I aint telling.

Posted by Ken, 4th June 2008 11:14pm

Where is the fairness in all this, why are fuel prices so different Tesco sells fuel in one area at 3-4p per litre more than a tesco 18 miles away is it the same for bread and milk or are they just ripping certain areas off.
Why should I pay £400 per year road tax to allow me to use a land Rover to tow a trailer of 3 tonne and do less than 6000 miles per year plus the fact I do not holiday abroad.Can a Prius tow 3 tonne? will it last 20 years? What are the enviromental costs of disposing the batteries after about 6 years when they fail?
Is it fair that I could do 12,000 miles a year in a smaller car and fly abroad twice a year. Which is the greener choice?
Why should the government take over 65p out of every litre of fuel. We are in RIP OFF Brittain.

Posted by Mark Pugh, 4th June 2008 11:40pm

Paddy Ashdown made some comments on BBC's Question Time recently that high fuel and food prices were here to stay and we should get used to it (all the time denying that he was in any way employed by the government).
Only last week, Gordon Brown made the same comments which were easily digested by the public thanks to Paddy's blow softening technique.
These statements are dangerous as they allow retailers to raise and maintain high prices.
We are living in bad times, held to ransom by fuel producers and supermarkets with a government that doesn't represent our interests in a world on the brink of depression thanks to shenanigans in the banking sector.
The best thing is we can't even emigrate to escape this one!

Posted by O Williams, 4th June 2008 11:43pm

the Telegraph page takes an age to load and won't let me post a comment. not sure if its my browser or the original page. we get taxed to use the road, taxed to put fuel in our Cars and V.A.T. on top of that. People like me drive an old car because we can't afford a new one. Labour is going to tax us all to poverty. I back the campaign against tax rises.

Posted by Ryan Mcquillan, 5th June 2008 12:34am

The price of petrol is now 113.99 ay Shell soverein in prince avenue close to
ss0 0sa

Posted by Raymond Edward Lambert, 5th June 2008 7:15am

The price of petrol at Shell soverein is now 113.99 in Prince avenue near ss0 0sa

Posted by Raymond Edward Lambert, 5th June 2008 7:17am

It is costing me a fortune to get to work now. Unfortunately as I work shift work public transport is not an alternative.

Yesterday I filled up my car and was very surprised at getting almost 40 litres in the tank. My fuel tank is only 30 litres and was 2/3 empty!

It seems to me that this particular filling station has rigged their pumps. This is the 2nd time it has happened too. First time I didn't realise at first what had happened.

This particular filling station is well known and not a small independant outlet.

Posted by Dave Wyatt, 5th June 2008 8:13am

With reference to Shaun Hogan's blog, you can add Texaco to the list of companies to boycott, the reason being is that their prices are on a par with BP in my town, which is Hemel Hempstead, I flatly refuse to buy my fuel there.

With regard to the Government's plans to add 2p to a litre and to their intention to increase car tax, I say bring it on, as these actions will only hasten this terrible Government's inevitable demise.

Posted by Michael A. Ellis, 5th June 2008 8:14am

i find it somewhat disturbing that the fuel price in arabia is about 7p a litre i realise that charges have to be made to us in relation to fuel tax or duty to maintain the roads but it appears with the rising costs our duty payments rise also please reduce those

Posted by Paul Whittelsey, 5th June 2008 8:53am

I think it's stupid I can not afford to buy a brand new car as i am on a low income but i work a fair way from my home as it is the only place i could get a job so i need my car but it is getting so bad that i can not afford to run the car so i may have to quit my job which then means i am unemployed why carn't the government run a scheme to help people like me as i am sure i am not the only one or lower prices on petrol or even the road tax

Posted by Kate, 5th June 2008 9:43am

My small family car is essential not a luxury, I only do around 3000 miles a year taking my child to school and getting to work on time. Public transport is too expensive and unreliable, Gordon Brown needs to come down to earth and realise that we cannot live with petrol prices going up hence all the food prices are increasing. As a single parent I find it all quite soul destroying to try and make ends meet. Wake up Gordon.

Posted by Josephine Wiltshire, 5th June 2008 10:10am

Re Shaun Hogan's comment, a nice idea ..... but I think we need to straighten out some facts:

1. Esso and BP are NOT one company. Exxon (Esso's parent company in the US) merged with Mobil in 2000 and is now known internationally as ExxonMobil. BP remains a separate company and is UK based.

2. Shell is (historically) much bigger than BP and is second only to Esso.

3. The big oil companies, which include the above as well as Elf, Texaco, Amoco, etc. sell to supermarkets, although supermarkets do also buy in directly off the spot market.

4. All the big oil companies in the UK are linked with exchange and throughput arrangements, so for example if you buy fuel in Scotland from an Esso site, it's origin is almost certainly from BP Grangemouth, being a nearer source of supply than Esso's site on the south coast.

The idea of boycotting some and only buying from others is fine, but it's a complex picture and if we wait for the return of 69p /litre, I for one will not hold my breath! Better perhaps to continue to buy from the cheapest places - although this can sometimes mean buying from the big companies. The downside is that this will ultimately serve to put the small independent distributors and garages out of business.

etc. etc.....

Have a nice day.....

Posted by Jerry R., 5th June 2008 10:27am

I see the majority of people demanding that the government bring the level of fuel taxation down but in reality this ain't going to happen and if it dose it not going to be by much (I guess if it comes down that decrees would soon be swallowed by the rising cost of the raw material) I changed my petrol car (which returned 20mpg) for a diesel car (which returns 50mpg) just over a year ago which has helped, and also reduced my road tax but that's a different issue I have no choice but to drive to work I cover 750-800 miles per week which I have to cover the cost of, I have seen the price of diesel rise by 30p per litre over the pas 12 months and don't think signing a petition, blockades, boycotting individual filling stations, etc, etc. will really help what we need to do is plan for the future I am currently trying to decide weather it would be a better long tern solution for myself to A. go back to a petrol car and stump up the £2000 need to convert it to LPG or B. keep the diesel and buy a biodisel processor for around £1500 and produce my own fuel for around 15p per litre using the waste oil from a friends chip shop (which he now pays to have collected) .
I have do quite a lot of research into both and am still unable to make my mind up but at least I ain't crying in my porridge demanding the government and multi billion dollar to give me a break they are not going to listen you have to do it for yourself or just pay the price and stop crying.

Posted by Sean Farrell, 5th June 2008 11:28am

THe complaining and boycotting of certain fuel companies isn't going to make much difference. The fact is that there is far great demand for fuel than ever before. In fact, as standards of living increase in emerging markets, you'll find that the demand will get greater, Tata have just brought out the Nano car which will put millions more Chinese and Indian Families on the road,. You cant deny these people these things as we have them now. There are certain arguments from economists that the only way to get out of this mess in the long term is to raise fuel duties. This would force motorists to run more efficient vehicles and think twice about unessesary journeys. Hopefully, this would result in the long term, us requiring less fuel and therefore reducing the Russian and opec's stranglehold over us as a country. You have to bear in mind that as a country we use 5 % less oil now than we did 30 years ago. Let's face it, the gov aint gonna cut taxes on fuel, they'll postpone the 2p rise until after a general election to try and retain a morsel of popularity and stiff us with it afterwards. This is it though, the chance we have of fuel prices now lowering is if the emerging market countries reduce their fuel subsidies, which they have aready started doing. This will effect slow their economies and demand for oil. Then we may see it ease, but , it aint going below a £1 per litre again.

Posted by Paolo Roberts, 5th June 2008 5:55pm

I think a total, national strike could be in order - just think of the chaos that we could all cause by refusing to go to work until prices were slashed - the cost of fuel at the moment represents a taxation level approximating 100%.

Posted by John Mckay, 5th June 2008 7:04pm

dear sir,i feel fuel duty should be a MAXIMUM of 30p a litre.at this moment in time it costs me £102 per week with parking £80 fuel £25 parking . no joke.i think all these petitions have little or no effect as brown will listen to nothing or anybody the only solution ,i feel, is to park everything up until it is reduced..we, the motorist, have been a cash cow for far to long and it is about time we put a stop to it after all the government works for us we do not work for them, at least thats the way it should work not the way this mob will realise it.

Posted by Stephen Baxter, 5th June 2008 7:40pm

Is it time that we showed the petrol companies and Mr Brown that they can not keep robbing us blind like this. Both the petrol companies and Mr Brown have driven the cost of fuel this high based on one factor 'money and profit'.

Enough is enouth is it about time we started to gain control back as the customer. Should we not boycoting petrol suppliers ie this Month all buy at Shell and boycot all others, next month we then buy at BP and boycott all others. This would mean that all bar the petrol supplier not boycotted will loss their profits for that month, they would have additional cost for storage.

Hopefully the companies being boycotted will start to understand that we are the customer and if they want our business they will have to start dropping the prices

Posted by Seand, 5th June 2008 8:51pm

@ 548 and others suggesting using cooking oil instead of pump diesel.
Good idea and basically nothing wrong technically with the idea.
HOWEVER
cooking oil used in your car qualifies as a road fuel and the HM Customs and Excise will want their cut. Duty is due and if you are caught not 'fessing up' and paying up they WILL prosecute.
Gordon's got this one covered too!!!!

Posted by Mthomas, 5th June 2008 9:21pm

I am not a business but a parent with a big old but still good diesel car, and a child who is away from home and three others still to ferry about. I don't want to pay these increases either. I have huge sympathy for businesses but don't leave it up to the diesel owning private citizens to meet these massive rises alone. I wishe the road tax increases were not retrospective. If I had bought a diesel now the government could stick me thses rises but I already own my car and have had it for some time. I would replace it but it is too expensive for me

Posted by Marjohnshow, 6th June 2008 12:12am

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How far does it have to go before HM Gov. do what we pay them to do
and sort this Fuel problem ?
And is it just me or is there a plot at hand by the fuel suppliers regarding
the pump price, all but one station in my area are charging the same price
No competition anymore.

Posted by Terry Stone, 6th June 2008 11:11am

Enough is enough!!!! What is happening to the £1m a day extra revenue that the govenment is getting from this huge hike if fuel prices. They are keeping very quiet about that!!! I have not seen the media ask them the question either.

It should be spent to provide a decent rural public transport system where those who live in rural areas are generally paid less and have the highest fuel prices. They have no choice but to use cars ot taxis!

Come on government be fair..............

Posted by John Page, 6th June 2008 7:45pm

Blair left Brown deep in the brown and smelly, so if he wants to get our vote next time round he better listen to us the people and dramatically drop the fuel prices. Most of it is goverment taxes anyway, and the fuel prices affect everyone.

Posted by Alex Roddie, 7th June 2008 10:34am

I have to travel to London every day a round trip of 100 miles, otherwise I need to find a new job, fortunately I have a diesel and can do the trips with a tankful a week, public transport is poor as I live in a rural area and the trip to the capital requires 3 changes to get to work.
I would gladly use public transport if the trip was easier but if I work late I don' get home and a 90 minute trip by car is an extra hour by train/ and bus, where are our taxes we pay for using a car going obviously not to the roads or transport system, probably lining someones pockets. If the government can't spend the money they fleece off us properly then give it back or reduce our costs. We have to let those in authority know that once they price us off the roads where will they get their money from then, they have to help the motorists be they businesses or families otherwise they will destroy this country.

Posted by Gus Korotana, 7th June 2008 5:35pm

What would happen if all car owners refused to fill up for one day, did'nt go to work or go shopping or use there car for any reason, did'nt use public transport or taxies, after all the transport companys and moter bike owners have had a go and shown there disgust its about time the car owner had a crack

Posted by Dave Pritchard, 7th June 2008 6:16pm

Loads of good comments but why don't we do something, I am game for any good idea. Bring the government down, stop buying fuel, stop going to work but for gods sake lets do something.
You can't just blame this government, they are all the same.
Maggie got us to change to diesel and made it cheeper than petrol then it started to go up, we need to tell these people that we pay there wages and they should do as we tell them.

Posted by Pete Cresswell, 7th June 2008 8:45pm

Greenergy is a manufacturer and supplier of petrol/diesel to Tesco (Tesco also have a 25% holding in greenergy)and ALL the fuel Tesco sell has a 5% biofuel
mix in it so it should be cheaper but here in Bridgend South Wales Tesco are the first to raise their pump prices and with very few exceptions are nearly always the dearest in the area. Today they're selling normal petrol @117.9 ppl & diesel @ 130.9 ppl.
So to all of you advocating boycotting the big boys and using supermarkets please bare in mind that the fuel supplied by the said supermarkets might well be of a lesser quality I personally find that my car runs better and further on fuel bought anywhere other than from a supermarket.
However as is constantly mentioned the real reason our petrol/diesel is so expensive is the government tax on tax and we are quite simply urinating in
the wind if we think they are going to reduce it any time soon. Gordon Brown himself doesn't have a drivers license and has no idea how much it hurts us to pay such a very high price for our fuel yet he goes blabbering on about how he feels the hurt of the British motorist but blatently blames the "high world price of oil" Note to Gordon Brown :- It's no shame to admit that you were wrong and you now need to ease this back braking burden you have inflicted on the british public/motorists after all it's your stealth taxes that are to blame.
It could be 2 years to a general election and at the moment despite all the opinion polls you really couldn't get a cigarette paper between the main political parties so the fuel tax needs to be cut substantially NOW not as a last minute bribe on the eve of the election but I somehow feel that we will wait in vain.

Posted by Sandy Price, 7th June 2008 11:14pm

Get rid of Gordon ASAP, and Labour.

They are causing to many problems in this country

Posted by B. Passingham, 8th June 2008 2:15pm

Is it just me or did my O-level chemistry tel me wrong , that diesel is a lower grade in the process of refining and petrol and the greener unleaded as it became is the top notch before we get to polymer processing. therefore is it not easier/ cheaper to produce diesel. its just that having been a diesel owner since the early 80's when the people laughed at such ownership and deluded souls like myself paid premium to drive the sluggish tractor like cars purely because we had long lived engines with good return for high mileage, as the numbers of diesel owners has increased so has the price hike, are we not facing a demand v profit hike. from one who lives in a rural area, no buses, no gritters, works nights nearest hospital now 37 miles away so does a 74 mile round trip adding 2 hours to my working night to serve the public who moan continuosly re lack of beds, facillities, staff, to whom i must smile and speak at least 1 eastern european language as i am now accountable for every restriction imposed on me by gov.target uk! and pay through the nose for the privilidge.

Posted by S M Nightingale, 8th June 2008 6:20pm

Re 553
You are now entitled to use up to 2500 litres of home produced biodisel per year before you have to inform the government once informed you must pay duty on everything over that amount, I think you are only allowed 2500 per processor so if you and your better half both have diesel cars and use more than 25 litres each per week you are going to need a processor each.

Posted by Sean Farrell, 9th June 2008 9:00am

I would also like the Government to think about the Disabled, i need to use my car for all my needs whether it is a long journey or even a very short journey to the local shop, the price of petrol has risen so much that some days i have to stay at home and ask my neighbour to pick a few items up for me at my local corner shop, i know i can park in a disabled parking bay but i have to have the petrol to get there first... have a heart, or even borrow one, but cut the outragious duty we are paying on Petrol..

Posted by Anthony Williams, 9th June 2008 6:48pm

I have just returned from a week in Cornwall - never before have I seen so many different petrol prices. For unleaded the range was from 113.9 up to 120.9 - what I want to know is why the difference - if the petrol is supplied by the same company why dont they all charge the same. Someone is making a hefty profit at our expense. Surely if the company can allow it to be sold for 113.9 in Cornwall why cant it be sold for 113.9 everywhere else in the country. Its not just the oil companies or government that are taking us for mugs - its the petrol station owners. As better proof of that - a station on my journey to work each day put its petrol up every other day of the week two weeks ag. Before I went to Cornwall it was 115.9 - today its 117.9.
Unfortunately I have to use my car to work as there is no suitable public transport - so as a nation we need to do something to force the greedy - money grabbing - thieving oil companies. Hit them where it hurts, stop buying from those stations that put their prices up just because they feel like it. If everyone did this they would soon learn. We just cannot put up with the increases, it affects everything, before long we weill not be able to afford food, we are nearly on the point of not being able to afford gas and electricity. Something needs to be done!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Dave King, 9th June 2008 11:43pm

hi can I mention some information you sent me seems to be a bit innacurate ,you sent me this recently

Station : Roseberry Filling Station
Address : Acklam Road, Middlesbrough, TS5 8DL
Brand : Imperial
Distance : 2.89
Price : 52.9p
Updated : 02-06-2008
the postcode shows the garage on the opposite side of the road of where a garage is and that garage does not sell lpg , if you go to the postcode that you sent me this place sells vehicles but not petrol anymore , whowever I have found a garage about half a mile down this road that does sell lpg , regards Paul

Posted by Paul Jackson, 10th June 2008 12:53pm

why would the government lower taxes on the fuel when they are getting more tax than ever out of us motorists ?

think about it, you need more of it to cover the same distance so the government cannot lose.

dont forget the government needs all the money it can get to pay for all the health care and benefits the asylum seekers are getting, money comes from somewhere

i bought my car in 2001 a 1.8 skoda as of next year i will have to pay £300 nearly to tax it even though its nearly 7 year old. my friend drives a 2000 3.2 vectra that drinks like a fish and his tax is over £100 pounds year cheaper.wtf

how can they be allowed to back date it to march 2001

Posted by Paul Odonnell, 10th June 2008 1:19pm

Great,not only do we have alarming petrol prices,but manchester has now been given the green light for congestion charges . There wont be any point going to work soon, it will be too expensive .

Posted by Roxsand Lias, 11th June 2008 6:46pm

hi all

can you beleive those shell truck drivers earning £32.000 ayear and they have the balls to go on strike demanding more money get a reality check you are JUST truck drivers I spent 6 years in college and earn nowhere near that amount it makes me sick shell should sack the lot of them there a discrace

Posted by Andrew Gardiner, 14th June 2008 7:22pm

Sir

I have just returned from a 2 week holiday in france diesel in france is cheaper then petrol,why is this so.

Posted by Dmcardle, 16th June 2008 12:37pm

recently came back from sharm, petrol was £1.25 for a GALLON

Posted by Pete, 16th June 2008 9:22pm

I wrote to Gordon Brown on the 5th June... in essence ... "the Treasury is gaining massively through high oil prices / extra fuel duty as most of us suffer. They should slash duty by 20p immediately. This would surely have a positive effect on food prices etc." or am I being too simplistic ? If the Govt received a few hundred thousand letters they might get the message and do something.

Posted by Malcolm Heeley, 17th June 2008 8:47pm

This comment has been removed as it was found to be in breach of our Blog Policies.

I would just like to know where it is going to end - hitting 131.9 for Diesel in Berkshire now, how high will prices have to before the Great British Public rebel and say "We've finally had enough?". A month ago it cost me £30 to fill up - it is now costing me just over £37 - as this is going up almost on a daily basis, it makes it very hard to budget if you rely on your car to get to work, no wonder there is a credit crisis!

Posted by Melanie Thomas, 19th June 2008 4:12pm

The idea of boycotting certain oil companies is appealing but a series of 24/48 hr strikes by motorists is more appealing because it sends out a message about who actually controls the market. An empty forecourt is a powerfull message that motorists have had enough. Organization is the problem, maybe better to try a few local actions to see the response. How far are motorist prepared to go to make a point. petitions do very little, a sudden pain in the pocket is much more of a salutary lesson. Any good organisers out there.

Posted by David W Thomas, 23rd June 2008 11:45pm

i have a big family and therefore need a big car. the other alternative is to sell one big car for two smaller ones thus doubling my running costs but why should i do that after working so hard to get what i want....all the taxes have been on things we need to live comfortably...i.e, fuel food gas electicity and so on so the government KNOW we will continue to spend our hard earned to line thier pockets. i for one am not going to sit back and have the money i work for taken by government fatcats

Posted by Darren Tyler, 25th June 2008 5:23pm

I am annoyed about the increased costs in car fuel.
What the hell is Gordon Brown doing about htis ?

Posted by Richard Bernard, 26th June 2008 6:02pm

When this Labour Government first came into Power, and what a scam that was, I remember that our good friend Darling was assigned to Social Services. Straight away, the noises he made about those who defrauded the system and how he would deal with them, was refreshing. Here, at last, was someone who would stand up and be counted.......
After some ten years of staying in the shade, he is now in the Chancellors' robes. And I have the feeling that he will be as effective in this role, as he was in the last.

So we might just as well stop complaining about the price of fuel and bend over, collectively, as what that bunch will be doing to us will need for us to take as painless a stance as we will be able to afford.
I thought about it before mentioning the word ' Scam' at the beginning. They promised us honest government, by honest people who would not have their hands in the tills....... Hah!

Posted by Lenny Louise, 26th June 2008 11:48pm

This is a serious comment for the future of this site: Filter the search by average waiting time for fuel and "ration amount" I guess based on peoples own expereinces, so let everyone who does a search on the site, also let those searchers update the information they have found and how long it took them to get fuel at the locations found in their search on the site.

For example people will not need to know where fuel is cheapest, but where it's eaiser and quicker to get and people will not be worried about high prices IF high prices mean not waiting in queues. Start profile WHEN people usually fillup and offer advice on how to beat the queues, for example your site will from user generated content know that the best times to fill up around at nighter after 8pm.

Test it out first in a fake panic period, such as the two we've just had, because mark my words when the real panic buying gets here, price will be of little importance to the motorist.

I'm a web developer, let's make this happen.

Posted by Lee Jordan, 27th June 2008 12:20am

I understand your concerns, Lee Jordan. However, your thinking is flawed. If one were to only take the case of the garage round Exeter way, whose fuel rose to £1.99 the litre, immediately following the strike threat of the other week.
His reasoning was superb. This would allow the motorist with the most need to have access to fuel when heeded. Of course what was not said was that if he had plenty, it would probably be because no one would enjoy being fleeced by this particular dogooder.

People, especially web developers, are in a unique position to tell us how to get Duggie Brown to reduce the tax levy on fuel instead of making himself look good to foreigners. They will not vote for him, next election. Come to think of it, neither will I.

Posted by Lenny Louise, 27th June 2008 8:48am

It is ridiculous

We as a nation, really do not understand the power we have. If we were all to unite and Boycott, the Government would have no choice but to listen to us and lower petrol prices!

Posted by S Thomas, 30th June 2008 4:38pm
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