Price cuts create biggest ever fuel price gap

In port talbot w glam, s wales they are the highest around here, they're the same price as motorway petrol,swansea is cheaper and traveling down to exeter was 3 to 5pence cheaper what is it about port talbot, somebody needs to look into this

Asda

U: 88.9

D: 98.9

Just to let you know Jet is

LPG: 53.9p/l

Unleaded: 90.9p/l

Diesel: 99.9p/l

Red Diesel: 69.9p/l

Just to let you know Gulf is

Unleaded: 96.9p/l

Diesel: 110p/l

Sorry! Diesel has just changed to 98.9p/l

Just to let you know Tesco Newton Aycliffe Extra is

Unleaded: 88.9p/l

Diesel: 99.9p/l

Just to let you know Unleaded and Diesel at the pair of total garages are 90.9-91.9p/l and diesel 101.9p/l

Just to let you know Unleaded and Diesel@tesco extra@Burn Lane, Newton Aycliffe is 88.9p/l and 99.9p/l

Since the first posting on 21 October on these particular pages it would seem "peak blog" has been reached.

There is evidence of other blogs being discovered but some are just small pools while others offer more riches to eager seekers.

Times on these pages have been colourful, funny, angry, rude, educational, ridiculous, entertaining and mostly we remained as friends.

I think this blog has dried up now, this area has been sucked dry.

See you on the other side. God bless all of you.

Adrian, God bless you the most.

44 ""Re #6.
That's Peak Oil for you, nothing if not repetitively persistent.

By the way Peak Oil and Boris are the same person so don't be fooled.
Watch out for some bashing from Boris.

Posted by Wiseman.c's All., 18th February 2009 8:47pm""


Add this little group,
""Anyway, the few posters with some brain cells (Bandidoz (Jason), Greg Brown, Bubba, Kellerman, Obsidian - even G. browne) will keep you amused I'm sure.""

Posted by Boris, 2nd February 2009 11:13pm"

Is this one and the same person?

If so, then it appears I am me and not someone else.
He is him but not them or me.
They are them but not me or him.
if we are not the same then we are different.
If we are the same then we are as one which means I am me.

Crystal clear then.

Adrian, I hope you are well. Best wishes.

Crude oil prices dropped below $35 per barrel in New York and lost more than $2 per barrel in London trade as investors worried that the recession will not only continue but deepen before it gets better.

Sentiment is that demand will continue to decline, while bad news on manufacturing in the New York region hurt prices, which have dropped 22 percent since the beginning of the year.

Poor results for the day on equities markets also pushed prices lower, as did new data showing that Japan’s economy contracted by 3.3 percent in the fourth quarter and bad news on profits from discount retailer Wal-Mart (NYSE: WMT).

March contracts for West Texas Intermediate crude was down $2.58 to $34.93 per barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, while Brent crude for March delivery dropped $2.14 to $41.14 per barrel on the ICE Futures Europe exchange in London.

Nymex March unleaded gasoline and April heating oil futures each dropped 8 cents during the session, to $1.13 per gallon and $1.22 per gallon respectively, while April natural gas was down 20 cents to $4.26 per million British thermal units.

The retail prices of gasoline in the United States fell 0.5 cent overnight to $1.96 per gallon on average, according to AAA.


Crude on a downward spiral, dollar shrinking against the pound, euro losing ground.
The cost at the pump rises.
Make sense to you?

Called by for some topical debate and I find a "Ghost Town".
It seems all there is to be said has been said.
All this time to get nowhere.
Unless you've all gone to Sangita's funeral and you're having a p1$$ up.

Received this text this morning:-

Apologies for any racism.

Gupta's wife died so he telephoned the local newspaper to place an obituary notice and on asking the cost was told that it was a £1 for 3 words
so he said "place the following":-

"Sangita is dead"

The editor said that a special offer this week entitled him to 3 words for free
so he thought for a moment and said "place the following":-

"Sangita is dead" "shop still open".

Politicians and analysts have warned that Britain is on the verge of deflation after economic data released this morning showed that living costs are rising at their lowest rate in almost 50 years.

Am I missing something here? If living costs are rising at their "lowest rates"
for almost 50 years, isn't that a good thing?

Could someone please explain this to me as I'm somewhat confused.

Hello to all. 1181 Very quiet.
Just stopping by for catch up.
Can I have a glass of whatever 1183's been drinking?
1182 Steven M yes our fuel prices are on the up again perhaps the petrol retailers are "filling their boots" before the banks stop their credit facilities.
1179 Now there's a thought but no doubt the Doris's would start the "Peak Coal" theory.
STILL no Adrian J.B. I'm down his way Bridgend (Cardiff)? on Wednesday but
as I've no idea where exactly he's located we can only hope all is O.K with him.
I sincerely hope that it's something simple keeping him away.

Any how down here in Kent diesel is now 101.9 & petrol 90.9 and climbing.

Bank of England Deputy Governor Charles Bean today fuelled expectations that the Bank rate is set to fall further in coming months.

Mr Bean told the National Farmers Union Conference, in Birmingham, that inflation would continue to run “well below” its two per cent target in the medium term due to a “substantial” amount of spare capacity in the economy.

He said this meant the Bank’s Monetary Policy Committee would “probably need to take further action” to return inflation to its target range in the medium term.

His comments were taken as a sign that Bank rate, cut from 1.5 per cent to 1 per cent earlier this month, may fall again when the MPC’s next decision is made on March 5.

* Bank may print cash to reverse downturn

* Former MPC members to challenge Bank committee

Sterling, which had been trading at $1.43 just as Mr Bean’s speech hit the screens, tumbled to $1.4258 in mid-afternoon trading.

Falling pound not good for petrol & diesel prices in an already increasing
period of rip off practices from retailers.

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hi,

Unleaded petrol yesterday went through the 90p-a-litre mark, adding £2 to the cost of filling up a typical family car after surging 4p in a few weeks. Diesel hit £1 a litre.

And petrol prices will soar even higher when the Government’s fuel duty rises by 1.84p a litre from April 1.

Motoring group the AA accused petrol retailers of pushing up prices at a time when oil costs are low.

Spokesman Luke Bosdet said “The inference must be that drivers are being ripped off.

“The main concern is that some of the retailers, without the incentive of Christmas or trying to pull customers into their stores, have decided to relax their efforts to compete on price.”

All major petrol retailers have raised prices since early January when average unleaded was just 85.89p a litre. The average price yesterday rose to 90.10p a litre.

Diesel has raced up from January’s low of 98.06p a litre to a 100.64p average yesterday.

The petrol price hikes are a slap in the face to motorists who suffered record increases last year.

Crude oil costs – on which petrol prices are based – have crashed 70 per cent from last summer’s peak. But pump prices are bouncing back up after a raft of pre-Christmas discounts.

RE 1180
The whole site has gone quiet.
People don't mind the banter but total disregard for any other view is quite appalling.
I love this site with its serious side and the funnies too but why anybody should subject themselves to abuse is baffling.
It is a case of either add to the debate and be prepared for ridicule or choose not to.
Either way the world is not ready for the changes coming.
Too many live for the day and are unprepared for tomorrow.
It will take a monumental global effort to adapt to a life after oil.
I just cant see it at the moment.

No wonder people stop contributing to these pages when there's 12 hours between postings.
Even the regulars have rationed their entries, it has obviously got very boring for them.

Another handle on proceedings:-

There is a projection that the source for petroleum will run out in the near future (let us say 50 years). What then do we do? One solution that would be the path of least resistance would be to convert coal to a gasoline or diesel substitute. Chemists here know that the technology from olden times provides a method for doing so. Not only does it fit within the current modes of transportation, but also the processing structure would be similar to what is done now for crude. The harvesting of coal is a well-known process. The coal reserves are far greater than petroleum. So the statement we are about to run out of liquid fuel is not quite correct.

What are the ramifications? Well the process of mining (strip mining) has some consequences that would have to be ameliorated. The discussion about carbon dioxide emissions will be another post in the near future.

Although coal may not be the best and greenest solution, it still may be the adopted solution since it is the path of least resistance.

Hi,

Adrian I hope all is OK. Let us know, please.

First, I am NOT BTK.

I am not anybody else on these or any other blogs I use, I am Steve M.
When I shaved this morning and looked in the mirror (apart from the fright) I saw I was still Steve M.
When I go to bed I will still be Steve M.
If BTK wants my place when the Grim Reaper comes a-knocking then please be my guest.

Second, I did not write that in 1154. I will always put my name to things, even after a little joke. But I did not write that one.

Third, Bosis says the diesel is subsidising the petrol and the companies would not run at a loss .

Why not just increase the price of petrol and reduce the cost of diesel?

After all, diesel is cleaner, cheaper to produce and more efficient.
(improvements in petrol cars is excellent but surely diesel engines are also being improved)

Last year during the highest fuel prices, loads of farms were raided for red diesel. In the northwest, where most raids took place over 1000ish diesel cars were stopped by police and had the tanks dipped.

Of the 1000ish stopped, not one had red diesel.

Perhaps all the red diesel was stolen by boat yard users.

N.P.Oil
I am 'gobsmacked' with the report.
If it is from 2003, what are the figures today?
Elderly folk are living longer (good news for us) State pensions paid for longer, to more. (not good news for out children's taxes)
I am a little taken aback with the housing benefit figures.
If the job seekers and those on income support claim all of their benefits then I would have expected the housing benefit to be considerably higher.
Is the report Based on actual expenditure or a forecast? Hmm.
In 2009 the 'winter fuel payments' are (I am sure this is correct) either £125 or £250, depending on your circumstances in the qualifying week (15 to 21 September 2008). or £400 if aged over 80.
See my point about it being harder to maintain payments to the elderly. And hey, I will be there myself soon.
The 'cold weather payment' paid to anyone getting Income Support or income-based Job-seeker's Allowance and have a child under five. This is £25.00. There have been two payments so far this winter.
Government fraud. Only £5bn? Nah.
How do you defraud VAT on a mobile phone?
Quiet about the bulldozers, I have two waiting export at Southampton docks ;~]

RE 1174 let him keep the crayons, something for him to chew on.

Concerned about Adrian.

The cost of things (These figures are a few years old but it gives some idea)

Contrary to the impression given by newspapers, corporate fraud and defence spending cost us far more than dole cheats...

WELFARE
The annual cost of welfare in Britain is about £100 billion. The tabloid media blame this high cost on the "workshy", but most of it goes on pensions:

Annual cost (£ billions)
• Job Seekers Allowance: 2.3
• Housing benefit: 4.1
• Income Support: 6.5
• Child benefit: 8.8
• Benefits for disabled: 10.8
• Contribution-based pensions: 42.1

(Smaller costs include winter fuel payments for the elderly, at £1.7bn, etc. Source: Department for Work and Pensions, 2003)

TAX AVOIDANCE & FRAUD
When it comes to swindling, "dole cheats" aren't the biggest drain on the UK economy:

Estimated annual cost (£ billions):
• Corporate tax avoidance: 85
• Business fraud: 14
• Government fraud in Whitehall: 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
• Tobacco smuggling: 3.5
• VAT fraud on mobile phones: 2.5
• Total welfare fraud: 2
• Jobseekers Allowance fraud: 0.19
• Bulldozer smuggling: 0.15. wtf???????????


Boo to Kellerman. I think somebody should take the crayons off of 1174.

Hello N.P.Oil
£22.5bn. Rolls off the tongue, twenty two and a half billion.
If consumption is falling then the revenue falls too. Suppose it allows them to raise the duty and VAT to compensate.
I wonder if the reverse would be true in an economic upturn.
By then a barrel of oil will have climbed in price.
Heads you lose tails I win.

As an after thought, although I have never smoked, my brother does. He commented how cigarettes seemed to climb from £3 a pack to almost £6 in a few years. (another piggy bank)
In the last 12 months there have only been pennies in any rises.
Given the present climate where delivery charges are an excuse for spiraling food increases and the like, and the weak Pound against the Dollar and the Euro (expensive importing) are they (the government) charging "gung-ho" into the motorist?
Or because so many have quit smoking it is now a pointless exercise.
Or as my bro' insists, they need so many smokers to keep the NHS alive and kicking. I do not follow his train of thought but nod in the right places.

Still no Adrian or Steve M tonight.

1174 Sorry to disappoint but I am not Steve M, Adrian, Boris, ITA, Peak Oil, or any other.
I am and always have posted as Boo to Kellerman.
Are you a sore Boris?

Boo to Kellerman=Steve M???? maybe.

1172.
I know what you mean.
£22.500.000.000 per year, we motorists are singlehandedly keeping this country going + the road tax and the V.A.T on everything we buy for our cars
it makes you wonder how we are in recession.
I see that the main man is huffing and puffing about M.P's pensions, personally I think he speaks with forked tongue whereby he go's through the motions of letting the public hear what they want to hear knowing full well that he can't/won't do anything about it. Whitewash and all that.
If we could bottle his bu11$h1t we wouldn't have to worry about running out of oil. (I hear my front door a knocking could it be the internet police)?
Steve M are you in tonight? Adrian J.B wherefore art thou?

N. P. Oil

SSSShhh
don't say "rip off" Don't even whisper it or think it...
You will get heavily chastised.
99% of the population agree with you. But one or two lurk in dark corners waiting to hear the imortal words.
Then they pounce.

1169. Thank you Boo to Kellerman. Very informative.

We do pay a lot of fuel duty here in U.K slightly more on diesel than petrol.
It's hard to imagine that we buy 30 billion litres of fuel a year but easy to see why it's taxed as heavily as it is. (Easy money).
Fuel @ £1 per litre.
£30.000.000.000 3/4 of which is tax/duty=£22.500.000.000 to the exchequer.
So actual cost of fuel £7.500.000.000.
So to all those asking where the rip off is..............................

Hello again
Great jokes lads.
No word from Adrian?

How are you, I sincerely hope you are keeping well.

Hello N. P. Oil.
Most interesting reading, a good insight into 'why'
But as you say, "clear as mud"
"Considering that Britain's motorists buy over 30 billion litres of fuel a year, that's a lot of tax."
Lots of tax indeed, part of the current mess is borrowing more when times were good, the normal thing across the board, but then struggle to repay when the $hit hits the fan. Can politicians have the house of Parliament repossed? ;~>

I am not sure what the price of red diesel is today but back in June last year it was 65ppl.
The reason I mention this is the rules for boats has changed.

Introduction

At the 1900 World’s Fair in Paris a German Dr Rudolph Diesel unveiled the world’s first compression-ignition engine capable of working on a number of fuels including peanut oil.

It was not too long before the first hydrocarbon oil duty was first imposed in 1928 by Winston Churchill, as Chancellor of the Exchequer in Stanley Baldwin’s government. Full duty was imposed on light oils, such as petrol, and a lower rebated duty on heavy oils, e.g. as diesel. However in 1935 with the development of diesel engines for cars, petrol sales declined to such an extent that in 1935 the Government applied the full rate of duty to heavy oils e.g. diesel.

An important distinction was made that this full rate of duty only applied to diesel for use as road fuel, agricultural vehicles and boats would still benefit from the lower rebated duty on fuel. Why this allowance was made to leisure boat owners back in the 1930’s is not clear but due to EU taxation alignment it ceases from the 01st November 2008 for owners of leisure boats who use red diesel to propel their craft.

Red Diesel is a grade of gas oil for which low fuel duty is currently applied and has been artificially dyed red since 1961 to distinguish it from other fuels. Whilst almost identical to the ‘white diesel’ bought at the road side, red diesel contains higher sulphur content and is therefore less environmentally friendly. The centane reading also differ, in red diesel it is around 45 and in white diesel a minimum centane reading of 51is achieved. The higher the centane reading the better the engine should run.

Presently

At present for waterside users the marine red diesel is subject to a fuel low-duty rate of about 7.69 pence per litre p.p.l. and a VAT rate of 5%. The UK road user who purchases Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel (ULSD) or ‘white diesel’ at the roadside filling station pays a higher fuel duty of 48.35 p.p.l. and the higher VAT rate of 17.5%. (15% at the moment)

The derogation of red diesel has existed since the 1930’s but is to cease following the confirmation that the European Directive 2003/96/EC is to be applied to UK private recreational craft from 1st November 2008. As an EU member, the UK is obliged to work from the same tax rules as everyone else and the transitional period to adjust to EU taxation rules will come to an end within this context.

In contrast, already leisure boat users across the EU fill up with the same white diesel and pay the same level of fuel duty as their road users. Exceptions at present are UK, Ireland, Finland, Belgium, Malta and Corsica.

The Future - from 1st November 2008

Red diesel is here to stay! Whilst various proposals were put forward red diesel is to be retained at marinas and waterside pumps, but sold at two different prices.

Commercially operated craft are not affected and will continue buy at the current low-duty rate. The leisure boat owner who continues to buy red diesel is to be charged the top rate of fuel duty for heavy oil which is not ULSD or SFD (Sulphur Free Diesel) i.e. 56.94 p.p.l. fuel duty i.e. on Red diesel.

If compared with supplying White Diesel rather than Red Diesel at waterside pumps there is an increase of about 6 p.p.l.in fuel duty by keeping Red Diesel at the pumps for leisure boat owners. However keeping the current supply lines in place will mean less disruption to the infrastructure.

The leisure boat user is required to self-declare the duty difference at a later date. There is an exception that red diesel for domestic use on board is to be charged at the lower rate of fuel duty, the consumption levels of ‘domestic’ e.g. heating and other ‘domestic uses’ may experience a small increase from the 1st November 2008.

Plain as day.

To all those asking the question.

Why diesel costs more than petrol (even though it is cheaper to make)

It will come as no surprise to inhabitants of the UK that we pay more for our fuel than most. In a time when uncertainties over crude oil supply, particularly in the Middle East, have caused record price highs at the pumps, it is all too hard not to come to this depressing realisation. What may be surprising though, is that within the league rankings of over-priced fuels, diesel is more expensive than petrol.

Any GCSE chemistry student can tell you that diesel requires less refining than petrol and less crude oil to produce. Hence the heavy clouds of black smoke so characteristically emitted by older generations of diesel powered cars. But, if that is indeed the case, then the discerning reader will perhaps be wondering why exactly such cheaply produced diesel should be more expensive than petrol. Part of the problem is that diesel isn’t actually as cheap to produce as some people think, at least not the modern “clean” variant anyway. Although diesel requires less crude oil per litre than petrol does to produce, newly established standards for lower sulphur diesel require a more complex refining process.
Despite these reductions in sulphur emissions, standard diesel fuel is still taxed more heavily than petrol. In 1994, duty on diesel and unleaded petrol (ULP) was the same, however from 1996 through to 1998 diesel was around a penny per litre more expensive. In 1999 it became three pence per litre. At this stage, ultra low sulphur diesel (ULSD) was introduced into the market and, by 2000 the majority of diesel being sold changed to ULSD. This carries a lower duty rate than standard diesel, and by 2001 the differential between standard diesel and ULSD was up to six pence per litre. However, since 2003 high oil prices have caused the duty on all fuels to rise drastically. In the last 2½ years alone a tripling in oil price has caused the price of fuels to rocket, and it seems to have been the case that diesel users have suffered more than the rest of us. If this were the whole picture though, then fuel would be as expensive everywhere as it is here in the UK. The fact of the matter is that, even with the hike in oil prices, almost three quarters of the petrol station price for any given fuel is government duty. Considering that Britain’s motorists buy over 30 billion litres of fuel a year, that’s a lot of tax.

The effect of taxation specifically on diesel is made clearer when price differences between diesel and ULP are compared with those of other countries. In France for example, diesel remains cheaper than petrol. This is partly because subsidies have been introduced in an effort to keep it affordable for farmers in particular. At one time such subsidies were implemented by the UK government and the tax on diesel was reduced to the extent that it became substantially cheaper than petrol. Similarly in Ireland, businesses are allowed to claim back the 100% of the VAT on diesel but nothing for normal petrol while in Portugal, the amounts are 50% for diesel and 0% for petrol.

To some extent, such subsidies and tax breaks offer a slightly false view of the general picture. When all is said and done, diesel is just another commodity in a market driven economy, subject to the same rules of supply and demand as everything else. Particularly in a country like the UK, which is now a net importer of fuel, local diesel prices are affected by international supply and demand. Furthermore, almost 80% of the cars on the road run on ULP. There is room for increasingly competitive sale of unleaded petrol. Diesel on the other hand, has a smaller retail demand than ULP, so the competitive forces at work are not as strong. The result is that diesel prices are a lot more stable. Fluctuations between the prices of ULP and diesel are usually a result of greater changes to unleaded prices than to diesel’s.

Even though diesel prices tend to change less, the difference between the lowest and highest priced petrol stations can still be quite large, at least 5 pence per litre at most times. Just to put that in perspective, according to the Department of Transport annual statistics for 2005, the average motorist clocks up an annual mileage of 9000 miles. With the average petrol car consumption at 30mpg, that means an astonishing 1363 litres (300 gallons) of petrol every year. This means that visiting a cheaper petrol station could theoretically save you at least £68 a year. PetrolPrices.com is the ideal place to find the cheapest petrol in your local area.

When comparing diesel and petrol prices, it is important to remember one thing. One of the key attractions of a diesel powered vehicle is that its engine is generally much more efficient than a petrol run equivalent. This is why diesel cars are usually slightly more expensive. A good diesel engine can get as much as 50mpg compared to the average 30mpg of a normal engine. To return to the previous example, 9000 miles at 50mpg would require only 819 litres (180 gallons) of petrol as opposed to 1363 litres (300 gallons) at 30mpg. From January 2005 to January 2006, the average petrol price rose from 79.6 pence per litre to 89.4 pence, whilst diesel prices rose from 84.8 pence per litre to 93.5 pence. Taking average prices of 84.5 pence and 89.15 pence for petrol and diesel respectively:

* 1363 litres x 84.5 pence per litre = £1151.74
* 819 litres x 89.15 pence per litre = £730.14

Clearly, diesel is more economical in the long run even though it is more expensive per litre. This is slowly changing though. The newest ULP engines are squeezing out more mpg for the same amount of petrol. If petrol cars are soon likely to match the efficiency of their diesel counterparts, then car companies could well find themselves having to think of new reasons why people need to buy diesel. As things stand, that reason won’t be for cheaper fuel. Current price trends don’t seem to indicate diesel prices dropping any time soon and the vast majority of motorists still use unleaded.

Clear as mud then.

Another for your bar Steve.

DATING:
The process of spending enormous amounts of money, time, and energy to get better acquainted with a person whom you don't especially like in the present and will learn to like a lot less in the future.

EASY:
A term used to describe a woman who has the morals of a man.

EYE CONTACT:
A method utilized by a single woman to communicate to a man that she is interested in him. Despite being advised to do so, many women have difficulty looking a man directly in the eyes, not necessarily due to the shyness, but usually due to the fact that a woman's eyes are not located in her chest.

FRIEND:
A member of the opposite sex who has some flaw which makes sleeping with him/her totally unappealing.

INDIFFERENCE
A woman's feeling toward a man that is interpreted by the man as "playing hard to get."

IRRITATING HABIT:
What the endearing little qualities that initially attract two people to each other turn into after a few months together.

NYMPHOMANIAC:
A man's term for a woman who wants to do it more often than he does.

SOBER
A condition in which it is almost impossible to fall in love.


ATTRACTION:
The act of associating horniness with a particular person.

LOVE AT 1st SIGHT:
What occurs when two extremely horny, but not entirely choosy people meet.

LAW OF RELATIVITY:
How attractive a given person appears to be is directly proportionate to how unattractive your date is.

J R

When some good lines are posted I print them off and post them on the bar.

Hope you dont mind,
This will be there soon. Excellent.
Apart from No;1 (still married and still talk to god, not to her much though)
I can easily associate to all of them.
Particularly love number 5. True as true can be.
What was No;9 again?

Steve, I've just found some words of wisdom. Enjoy

1 My husband and I divorced over religious differences.. He thought he was God and I didn't..
2.. I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it.
3.. Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.
4.. I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
5.. Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.
6... Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
7 I'm not a complete idiot -- Some parts are missing.
8 .. God must love stupid people; He made so many. (Camp B maybe)?
9 .. Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?
10.. Being 'over the hill' is much better than being under it!

It's the best I could do. I'm not up to your and Adrian's standard.

J R

Sorry, must be the drugs, I remember now.

Probably not scaremongering, panicking more like.

Most of the regulars had never heard of this site just before Christmas, now they all do.

Of the twenty or so only one actually looks for the cheapest fuel in the area. The rest seem happy to pay the going rate and slate Gordon Brown anyway. Most of them are labour voters and will remain so until the day they die.

Old Jack summed it up "it's like going to the barbers for the first time, or a 'real' football match, them's the ones you follow for life"

I also hope Adrian is OK.

Adrian John Bell, Heidi are you out there?
Beginning to worry about you now as you normally put an appearance in sometime during the week. Hope all is O.K with you.

1161
Remember 1 foot and 2 toes in camp A.
I see good facts/points in both camps but must confess to leaning into camp A at present. I fully believe that oil will one day be inaccessible enough to strain the existing oil fields to depletion but I (1146 confirms) think that that time is still a long way off, and I firmly believe Peak Oil (though they might mean well) are scaremongering.But who knows?

J R,

I have had a similar thing in the past, bogus postings. Annoying.
(although my 'luv to be blowed' was just a bit of fun)

Poor Boris appears to be taking stick again. This time with BTK who is usually mild enough but has said his piece on occasion.

J R, Where do you stand in the peak oil debate? I know you are not a peak sympathiser but are you of similar mind to Adrian and myself?
Or a 'middler' like BTK and Bubba?

Interested to hear your views.

1158 Steve
Unfortunately I was away on business and my last port of call was down in South Wales (AJB'S Haunt) I've been looking for a company that can do some chrome plating for the product I have under development and I think I've found
a good one down in "Bridgend" about 20 miles west of Cardiff, I'm waiting for samples and prices as we speak.
Reading through the pages it seems to have been quiet here this week with no submissions from you, AJB and the others, you should be resting your knee in front of the pc.
1146 made interesting reading but how the heck do you pronounce that name?
Some more funnies please.

1157
Thanks for that I found it. Fcuking imposter.
It weren't me.

Hi, J R hope you had a good time.

I had a w.ank over an ex girlfriend last night.
I know its wrong but I still have a key and she's a heavy sleeper.

Adrian, how are you doing my friend?

11141
Posted by J.r.ewing, 12th February 2009 2:32pm

1154
What and where has some tw@ht been posting in my name. My last posting was 3rd February. I've been away for last 10 days.
1155 Steve M. Very good. Any more? I'm useless at jokes myself although Gordon Brown tells some good uns.

A pacific cruise ship sinks and there are only three survivors, David, Darren and Debbie.
They manage to swim to a small island and live off the land for a couple of years while doing what comes naturally.
But Debbie feels so bad about having sex with both David and Darren that she kills herself.
Very sad for David and Darren but they eventually get over it and again nature takes its course.
After a couple more years David and Darren feel really bad about what they are doing.........
so they decide to bury her.

J R Ewing
J. R. Ewing.
**Whether Boris is right or wrong, there's no need to degenerate into this kind of abuse and Boris himself will state that though he & I only agree on certain aspects of each others points of view we nevertheless respect each others beliefs.**

Are you serious, are you having a laugh?

A few of Boris' kind words, , , ,

1]..What a sophisticated and well argued point. How enlightening.

2]..nil knowledge stoked by other ill-informed bloggers.

3]..many posts show such an astounding ignorance of how the world works

4]..these people will never be more than cyber soap box ranters

5]..("look, I done a post - aren't I clever hur hur hur!").

6]..you and your like confuse 'thick skinned' with 'thick' - I am the former and you appear to be the latter.

7]..hard to take seriously the fake superior/pompous tone

8]..I don't like to criticise an unwell man (note* he did though)

9]..set your tiny mind straight

10]..(I find I am quite capable of using a computer without getting too grubby - maybe you in your DOM persona are not?)

11]..Happy now weirdo?

12]..ignorance exhibited by some of these fools who think that their soap-box rants are somehow of any value.

13].. but why should fools be tolerated?

14]..the ignorance of some of the posters here

15]..off for his Goosestep in the snow

16]..oh dear, it's all the fault of the immigrants isn't it

17]..stoke the furnaces to keep you warm you sad loser?

18]..hilarious in your stupidity

19]..ill informed and pompous.

20]..duh!

21]..you machine gunning the dreaded immigrants

22]..you nasty little twerp.

23]..Get back in the pond.

24]..you tedious little man

25]..fellow member of the Onanists Club (you do it - he watches?)

26]..devoid of any intellect you really are!

27]..What's the next subject for you parade your ignorance of?

28]..(*Boris take on the refinery strikes) conversing with White Supremacists

29]..let the Nazi get away with it (Mr Handbrake I assume).

30]..easier than working to make a success of your life isn't it?

31]..How can it be free? Does the oil just come out of the ground, refine itself and throw itself into the cars?

32]..Wrong.

If a person keeps poking a sleeping lion he will get bitten. Eventually.
I have written on these pages a few times over the years and have never "crossed-swords" with Boris.
I do agree with most other posters that to post anything is likely to receive the "Boris-Backlash" so will not bother.
Shame really as these pages are very informative and sometimes bring a smile or two.

NEW YORK, Feb 13, 2009 (UPI via COMTEX) -- Crude oil prices pushed lower Friday morning on the New York Mercantile Exchange, hitting a low for the month at $34.19 per barrel.

Oil prices down but petrol and diesel prices still going up!

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Oh what a g@y day.
Shirt lifters anonymous rules.

thanks sweetie x x