Protesters to fire “warning shot” to the government.
1879 Comments | Add Comment | Blog entry posted 14th December, 2007
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Transaction 2007, the group behind the fuel protests taking place around the country tomorrow, have said that the protests are aiming to “fire a warning shot to the government.” David Handley, spokesperson for group, warned, “it’s our intention to come back in January and let’s put it like this, it won’t be quite as peaceful as it’s going to be tomorrow.”
He continued: “we have got contingency plans for where the next stage of this will go. I’m obviously not going to discuss that because the next element has got to be a surprise. That’s the only way that you’ll have the impact with government to make them realise that you mean business.”
Handley hopes the protests will show politicians how angry motorists are at rising fuel prices. Transaction 2007 blame the current tax system, whereby duty and VAT are added the price of petrol. He said: “we have not got an issue with tax if tax is totally transparent. It’s got to be fair, it’s got to be shown that the money that’s drawn from the revenue from fuel, should be used to create a better infrastructure, better investment in transport and not used to prop up the inefficient management of the cash flow from government.”
The protests tomorrow will start at 10am at fuel refineries and depots across the country, including those in Manchester, Southampton, Liverpool, Essex, Cardiff, and Lincolnshire. Despite the threat of further, potentially more disruptive action early next year, Handley maintains that tomorrow’s action will be peaceful. Transaction 2007 were involved in the fuel protests in 2000, where lorry drivers blockaded refineries, leading to nationwide fuel shortages. But Handley maintained: “we were accused last time by a lot of people who didn’t want to take part of not doing it in the correct manner. This time we’re doing it in the correct way. We’re sending a message in a peaceful form, but if people don’t address that and listen to us then 2000 is likely to happen all over again.”
Early indications from polls and comments on our blog have suggested that whilst motorists are angry at rising fuel prices, opinions are divided as to whether targeting refineries is the best method of protest. In addition, only 183 people have said they will be protesting tomorrow. It has been suggested that it would be better to send a petition to the government or protest in London, because they are responsible for the tax on fuel.
However, Stephen Joseph from the Campaign for Better Transport believes that reducing tax on fuel would be the worst thing the government could do. “It gives motorists the false sense of security that they can continue to drive around in their gas guzzlers. High tax acts as an incentive for motorists to switch to greener alternatives.” He continued, “fuel tax in the UK is not drastically higher than the rest of Europe. We are now only around 1% higher than countries such as Germany, France and the Netherlands.”
So are we paying too much in tax on our fuel in the UK? Should we ensure that all our tax gets spent on motoring? Or should we continue to tax at the current rate to encourage greener alternatives?
Replies to Protesters to fire “warning shot” to the government.
Reita Billington December 30, 2007
what i thnk is that all hauliers should withdraw there services and blockade all major ports and fuel depots and bring the country to a standstill just like france do, then the government might take notice
Kev In Wiltshire December 29, 2007
I urge everyone to click on the transaction2007 link at the top of this page and sign up on there as well, show these guys they have our support as well, these are the same guys who did the blockades in 2000, they have learnt from there mistakes then, and now due to goverment law changes are unable to blockade refinerys, so they are looking at other ways to get the message across to gorden brown and his chums. they need and want the support from normal drivers like us, so go give them that support.
John From Devon December 29, 2007
I aggree with Government protest.
But you need to target specific area's of Hurt.
(Issue ALL MPS & LORDS With smartcars)
It is not just the situation of Petrol Pricing, It is everything we stand for
As TRUE British.
We are being fleeced by Civil Servants every day by Draconian regulations, that are impossible to follow.
But at least the AIR we breath is free. Watch that space !!!
Blocking London would certainly affect government officials travelling to work.
But this would also affect the average man trying to earn a living.
Boycotting the Petrol STATIONS would only hurt the franchise retailer, and close them down, After all the amount they gain from a litre is only pence.
As I See it, on the TAX Issue of fuel, the only way you can hurt the Government and the Oil Companies is by blockading refineries PERIOD.
Whatever course the protest takes, It has to be carefully planned, Kept to a minimum od disruption for the Vast Majority. But on a REGULAR basis.
And MUST Be peacefull and WELL Supported
A National day at home would be good, if the weather is nice.
I believe if you are angry or disgruntled with our "Fabulous" Govt, The WHOLE country should pass a vote of No Confidence.
Set up a Co-alittion Government. With real people.
Perhaps the Website Owners of Petrol Prices.com could set up a forum/blog
of Government Support, Or Not as the case may be.
Vive La Justice
And a Happy 2008 to you all. (I HOPE)
Norman Whittington December 29, 2007
If tax on petrol in Britain is only 1% more than in France and Germany etc., then why is it that petrol in France is currently between 40 and 50 pence a gallon cheaper than in Britain ?
Peter Endean December 29, 2007
If the The Government are so concerned about the Environment they should promote the sales and fitment of LPG
A cheaper way of transport and cleaner.
But I suspect the issue here is TAX TAX TAX And lets pretend we care about the world.
As for LPG inPlymouth, (Its A Joke) Only 2 stations sell it in the City Boundary
and one of them is closing by an ESSO take over. And they wont supply GAS.
This country is a Lauging Stock
One out All Out.
Noone December 27, 2007
Okay, petition route does not work, nor does blocades, nor does the daft boycott the BP pumps.
So how about boycotting the price fixers ? Promotions have finished now, but IF two leading Supermarkets could offer a 5p off per litre if you spent £50 instore, surely they had at the least, 5p they could have passed onto us ? So how about using petrolprices to get your cheapest alternative petrol station (mine is actually closer than any supermarket) boycott the supermarkets and start a price war ??
James Cullinan December 27, 2007
i am in full agreement with your aims and believe if we stick together we will achieve our aims to have the same as our so called european partners a n even handed tax on petrol thanks for your efforts i know it is not with out cost all this protesting
Tony December 25, 2007
Post 1837 is misinformed. Whilst the roads on the continent ie Spain and France are excellent and are far superior to British roads, they have been paid for by the funds from the European Community of which a gigantic proportion has come from our own tax system. You yourself have contributed to these roads.
The British roads are in an appaling state of repair being mainly a patchwork quilt to ruin your suspension and tyres (and I know because the journey I take back in the evening makes me feel physically sick because of the lumps and bumps for miles)
Is it not fair to pay for the product that you are using with an extra amount as profit built in for the producers so they can run their company. The governement should not be adding an amount that is totally excessive so much so that some people are using the money to buy petrol instead of food, due to various work commitments.
Perhaps if post 1836 is happy with the tax, which will no doubt will be vastly incrreased in the future, perhaps he should put forward an option where those who are happy can pay the full amount whilst those who think it is excessive can pay a lower amount and thus cancel each other out!!!
Please get real as, if they keep increasing prices of everything and everyone agrees to it, you will have no money at all to spend soon as wages are not rising in line with the increases you are getting poorer all the time.
And by the way I would check out the amount of industrial and corporation taxation and capital gains tax as it is crippling the growth of industry and reducing the opportunities of creating more jobs. If capital gains tax is not sorted out soon many small companies will be closing down before April 2008 as they will have to sell-up to avoid being totally ruined. And tonight's news where beer will soon be £4.00 per pint!!? Talk about high tax.
Willem December 24, 2007
Well spoken, Iain. The point is that road tax income should be ringfenced for road improvement. I drive through 9 roundabouts in 11 miles on what the british call an 'A' road - spending some on proper connections will help the environment by easing congestion. England is a third world-country when it comes to roads.
People do pay a lot more road tax on the continent, by the way (contrary to what a previous poster said), which is apparent from the superior state of infrastructure over there (I have lived in a few european countries and traveled through a few more).
I believe that containment of traffic is doable - but it will cost some. So tax the hell out of fuel, which will provide an incentive to manufacturers to provide better cars (when people like graham smith don't buy them anymore). I agree with John Tilley that this is not the way it should work, but when politicians have close connections to industry like here, industrial taxation is not going to happen anytime soon.
Iain Mcleod December 24, 2007
If we scrap the tax on fuel completely, we'll put so many more cars and trucks on the road that nothing will ever move and we can all just stay in bed! Less tax? Utter rubbish. Its about time you dinosaurs woke up and start thinking about somebody other than just yourself the whole time.
Iain McLeod
William Jackson December 24, 2007
I am sick of hearing about gas guzzlers. The fact is that the people who run the so called gas guzzlers can also afford the price of the petrol no matter what it costs. Therefore, taxing fuel in this way does nothing to stop the gas guzzlers, it only affects the people who need their cars for work.
Nobody wants to drive 50 or more miles to work but unfortunately this is a reality because of the lack of jobs in certain areas and public transport is not a realistic option unless you can afford 3 hours each way out of your day.
If gas guzzlers are really a problem for the Government then they should have the balls to do something to stop the sale of these in the UK but lets face it that would only lose them seats and we can't have that.
John Tilley December 24, 2007
taxation shouldn't be used to penalise or encourage people to move to greener options that they probably can't afford. These measures should be aimed at the manufacturers and the governments departments.
John Tilley/
Tony December 24, 2007
Eric , post 1830 above has also highlighted the problem of increased petrol usage due to the stupid governement policies of so called traffic calming. What a load of rubbish - we must waste more petrol stopping and starting in queues of traffic that are caused by the number of traffic lights they have installed and dodging the speed bumps, built out pavements and other death traps that are there to catch us out now.
Most of the pelican crossings in my town APPEAR to be pelican crossings but, if you stand there and watch, it can be seen than they are TRAFFIC LIGHTS ONLY and the button for the apparant pelican crossing does nothing at all. People press it and it does nothing until the traffic lights work AND THEN THEY WORK WHEN THERE IS NOBODY THERE TO CROSS, AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. The traffic queues are from the suburbs all the way back to the centre of the city due to this.
If they altered these to proper pelican crossings the traffic would be moving most of the time and the queues would go. After all, any time that the traffic lights have broken down, there are no traffic queues to be seen!!!!! They are just collecting more tax and vat while we all queue up wasting the petrol. What a laugh!!
At least one main arterial A road (A61) near to where I live has been made into a SINGLE lane for cars with a traffic light stopping at about avery 20 seconds. The other lane is a pure bus lane for a few buses per hour. The queue of cars on here nearly stretches to the next town believe it or not. How much petrol here is being wasted in the queue of this length. (not to mention the pollution being produced). So much for global warming and co2.
Gavin Davies December 23, 2007
I'm not aginest paying current prices for fuel, but I should be able to go and see my brother with out thinking that it's going to cost me a couple of ours wages.
I don't care how I get there eather by train, car, or bus. But I should be able to do my every day business, with out wasting hours for trains, buses or, sat in traffic in my car. All I want it to get from a to b at a resnable amount, in a resonable time. Which currently is not the case how every you travel.
William Pinkerton December 23, 2007
I agree with everything you say about the cost of fuel and the money being used to subsidise other departments and in most cases where the government had earlier given the people some token of return out these departments to make them think that they were getting something for nothing.
In my opionin this government will not take a bit of notice of what the people want, say or do on any subject - the EU referendum is a perfect example because they either outstay or don't get involved in issues and know that eventually it will all blow over. Invariably the majority of the issues don't affect them in their Ivory Towers so there attitude is "let them fight it out amongst themselves" and it will all blow away!! Invaribly it does just that.
Eric Goldup December 22, 2007
I first purchased a vehicle when petrol cost 4/6d a gallon. Since government has caused me to be less and less economical with the use of my transport. My camper used through the summer while the Morris Minor had major spare time servicing. Summer use camper doubled for holidays, home improvement goods transporter, work transport, road alterations made cycling inpracticle. M.O.T. Insurance costs cause me to keep only the one work horse on the road, being a workhorse it has to be suitable for the larger jobs.
I am retired but government does its utmost to stop me working even to keep myself self-sufficient. All contrary to their green policy statements. We all know stopping and starting wastes energy. So what about Traffic calming, junction traffic lights, lack of parking, use of motorways as local bypass etc. I only just started. Bet you can add many more anti economy acts by government of all levels.
Sharif Uddin December 22, 2007
We are getting ripped off on petrol, how is everyone going to live with these rediculous prices.
Tony December 22, 2007
This protest is not just about petrol, it's the fact that everyone is sick and tired of being treated like fools and being taxed to death, taxes on taxes, eg the tax and duty paid on the petrol is payed for with the taxed and national insuranced pay. What tax rate does that equal?
To actually go ahead with the planned increases in the tax on petrol with the price rising as it is, just proves that this government haven't an ounce of regard for the population's way of life. Just vote them out in May 2008 at the local elections and see how they like that!
Jeannette Elizabeth Bryan December 22, 2007
this and previous governments have run ruff shod over motorists for long enough??? Its about time we stood firm and made them listen to us.
THE GOVERNMENT TAKE FAR TO MUCH TAX OFF OF US FOR EVER LITRE WE USE.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH BROWN AND CO, SO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT !!!!!!!
Michael Jackson December 22, 2007
It is about time this greedy government put themselves in the real world instead of living with their heads buried in the sand, we would not be paying rip off prices for fuel and other items if this lot who are supposed to be educated spent the taxes they collect on the people who deserve it. Instead of giving illegal immigrants £4000.00 to return home it should be used to cut our taxes, give cancer patients and other deserving people the treatment they are entitled to, also look after our pensioners like other european countries. I have just returned from Lanzarote where petrol is around 80 cents per litre. When you get e1.35 to £1 it proves who is the poor relation in the E U. Keep up the protest it is the only language Mr. Bean (our prime minister) understands.
W Brad December 22, 2007
this government has conned us in every way possible since elected , they look for any way to make extra money simply because they cannot make the books ballance , this hike in fuel price is just another example
I WAS ONCE PROUD OF MY COUNTRY NOW I CANT WAIT TO GET AWAY TO A COUNTRY WHERE THE GOVERNMENT LOOKS AFTER ITS OWN PEOPLE
Pat Gowing December 21, 2007
"As others have said: this lying, scheming government, that has had the most devious and under-handed chancellor imagineable - now prime minister of course - has reneged on every single one of its 1997 election manifesto promises. My small business is drowning under red-tape (IR35, S660, MSC, MSP etc... all new from them) and I am personally taxed to the hilt, not openly of course, but by stealth.
Remember when Brown, as chancellor, promised not to increase income tax... but then immediately put national insurance up instead? That 1% comes from your pay-packet in *exactly* the same way. And they have racked up employer's national insurance too, by several percent, which as an employee you don't see but it's why your employer can't afford to give you a pay rise... the government stole it from you! And then we're stealth taxed to the hilt through fuel duty etc, ever rising, and then VAT on top of that!
And for what? So that they can put it into their coffers now, ready for spending on generous schemes in one or two years time... just before the next election in the hope of buying themselves more votes, using our money!
This government - and the current prime minister in particular - is an utter disgrace; they deserve to be brought down. Sadly I can't see these protests achieving that, no matter how well managed they are, but they may at least give the government a bruise or two and show them that we've had enough of being bullied and robbed blind, just to bolster their coffers to introduce schemes to try and buy themselves yet another term in office, to push this country still further into the dark ages."
I agree wholeheartedly with the above posted by Andrew. The government are highway robbers and our prime minister Turpin.
Pat December 21, 2007
As others have said: this lying, scheming government, that has had the most devious and under-handed chancellor imagineable - now prime minister of course - has reneged on every single one of its 1997 election manifesto promises. My small business is drowning under red-tape (IR35, S660, MSC, MSP etc... all new from them) and I am personally taxed to the hilt, not openly of course, but by stealth.
Remember when Brown, as chancellor, promised not to increase income tax... but then immediately put national insurance up instead? That 1% comes from your pay-packet in *exactly* the same way. And they have racked up employer's national insurance too, by several percent, which as an employee you don't see but it's why your employer can't afford to give you a pay rise... the government stole it from you! And then we're stealth taxed to the hilt through fuel duty etc, ever rising, and then VAT on top of that!
And for what? So that they can put it into their coffers now, ready for spending on generous schemes in one or two years time... just before the next election in the hope of buying themselves more votes, using our money!
This government - and the current prime minister in particular - is an utter disgrace; they deserve to be brought down. Sadly I can't see these protests achieving that, no matter how well managed they are, but they may at least give the government a bruise or two and show them that we've had enough of being bullied and robbed blind, just to bolster their coffers to introduce schemes to try and buy themselves yet another term in office, to push this country still further into the dark ages.
Yes, I support the protests!
Posted by Andrew, 14th December
Agree with the above wholeheartedly, couldn't have got it more right. The government are highway robbers.
Della Santos December 21, 2007
This government robs us of everything else and get away with it. Why not fuel? Unfortunately we are a nation of polite patience but it is time to make our voices heard. Things are not getting better no matter what our government tries to make us believe (while burying the truth or spinning it out of proportion that even they aren't sure what they are talking about). This government has a thing for taxes and at each turn they will think of new ways of squeezing us all the while they are getting richer and richer. Just take Blair for instance. He started this whole thing and then walked away knowing full well that he and his are untouchable while we are always nearing the breadline. I'm all for protesting but I don't think it will make any difference somehow.
Paul In London December 21, 2007
Unfortunately I don't think peacful protests will work with this government - lets face it they all took to the streets in the poll tax riots when they were idealistic solcialist students to get their own way.
At the very least it needs to be mass protest in London or better still in their own constituencies - trip to Scotland anyone!! They expect apathy and compliance (because we're not French) but no election, no referendum, what next??? they don't think they are accountable to anyone, they need to be shown otherwise.
BTW. Why is everyone obsessed with taxing "gas guzzlers"? Don't get fooled by the governments "Green" stance on the global warming inducing, Upper Class 4X4 drivers. It's class war not green and we should all check what the government classifies as a gas guzzler - you'd be surprised.
Any way global warming is a myth (read the stats they don't publish); that cars can therefore contribute to global warming is a myth, and that this government has the best interests of the country at heart is the biggest myth of all.
Piggy December 21, 2007
It has been difficult to keep my car running and I am sorry that I would not agree if someone somking like hell and accusing me not being enviromentally friendly. I believe that I am GREEN enough in my life so far.
Ian Greig December 21, 2007
we are getting conned rotten no wonder gordon brown would not go to the polls he may be daft but he;s *no silly*
maybe PRUDANCE should the country?
Scott Gibson December 21, 2007
Nothing is a quick fix, but I can remember when the Oil and Gas deposits were found, we were promised fee oil and gas-- never happened. Also decades ago fuel duty revinue was used for its intended purpose improving the infrastructure. What we need to do is Scrap Tax completely then do away with the road fund licence, then apply a new basic tax to fuel, then highe end users would proportionatly pay more which is not the case today I drive less than 2000 miles a year i am disabled and need my car I have to pay the full road fund licence even though my car may stand idle for days sometimes weeks and i cannot afford to do highe ilages on the cost of fuel as it is, if something isnt done very soon we will find not only will we be paying proportionally higher taxes but the roads we already fay for under the road licence fund will become pay as you go another cash monkey for national and local goverment. the motorist and esspecialy uk ones ate a soft target as generally we spout and splutter and do nothing. just lool at the french hauliers or ferry workers to see how a unified and totally peacfull( mainly) protest can influence the goverment unless we change our ways the uk partys know this and will continue to exploit it
Juliana Sims December 21, 2007
the costs of petrol now has come down to either putting petrol in the car as we live in a rural area and my 80 year old father lives 30 miles from me who i care for, or actually putting food on the table and don't ask when the last time i was able to buy clothes for my children never mind myself. Out of £200 a wk i pay out nearly £60 a week on fuel
Big Bill Fae Glesga December 20, 2007
as a law abiding citizen who regularly refuses the offer of red deisel; what i do is soon going to be beyond even me. I dont drink,smoke,gamble, and care for the reprobate and unwashed:
I support the blog and protest and hope that someone somewhere will take note and acknowledge the great British spirit which is this great country in which we keep on going the extra mile in:
Oli December 20, 2007
The only way the fuel protests will work is if there is huge support for them thats the main reason they had such a dramatic impact in 2000. therefore if we are goin to make these protests of jan 2008 successful we need to start gathering suport for them i.e the word now needs to be spread around as much as possible as to when there to take place and to where info on the lastest where abouts of the protests are (when there just about to start) after all people can not go and support them if they have no info on where and when they are. this info needss to be spread through the media as much as possible in the days leading up to the protest while not giving to much away in order to keep the suprise eliment of the protest going! These protests can work if people know whats going on because theres so much support for the protest its just people need to know how, when and where to give it
Simon Jocelyn December 20, 2007
I hope this government does pay attention to the "warning shot" of December 15th. Alas, I believe they are so arrogant they will not! So bring on the blockades! It may cause all of us motorists a bit of incovenience but we need this action to make them see how fed up, with these almost daily rises in fuel cost, we are. A reduction in fuel prices would of course be a welcome relief to us all but just as important, the knowledge that our fuel tax was being put back into the transport sytem would be a welcome, though I fear unlikely statement for this government to make!
Raymond Manning December 20, 2007
That guy Willem Smith is definitely not on this planet, can he not realise that for every penny this greedy so called Government collects from fuel it also forces the price of everything else up.
Willem probably will not notice this as he will most likely be stuffing his HOLE with carrots from his veg plot.
Nick Edwards December 20, 2007
1810: Sorry, what? You mean you've never thought to go to the HM Treasury website and see where the money goes? Funnily enough, it's not illegal to ask what our money is spent on, and it's more than easily obtainable.
I think you have an axe to grind and evidently didn't look too hard.
Cliff Sellers December 20, 2007
Don't know why but for some reason your email was delayed getting to me. Please be assured that if I had received it before the planned protest I would most certainly have been there to support you. The psycological pound a litre barrier was approached last time to soften us up for the latest assault, this time they have surpassed it with a vengence & we are still moaning at the pumps. It really is time to do something about it, the sooner the better, the financial implications for me & my family are disasterous.
Maggie December 20, 2007
ALL businesses have to have annual accounts. The Government is the biggest business in the country. If they were made to publicise how much money they get in and how it's spent, I'm sure there would be a lot less wastage (eg MP's "expenses", etc) and less excuse for high taxes on ANYthing, not just fuel. After all, it's OUR money they're spending - shouldn't we be entitled to know where it's going?
Cliff Sellers December 20, 2007
Don't know why but for some reason your email was delayed getting to me. Please be assured that if I had received it before the planned protest I would most certainly have been there to support you. The psycological pound a litre barrier was approached last time to soften us up for the latest assault, this time they have surpassed it with a vengence & we are still moaning at the pumps. It really is time to do something about it, the sooner the better, the financial implications for me & my family are disasterous.
Jack Wray December 20, 2007
High fuel prices cost countless jobs due to people on low income unable to afford to travel any distance to work. the manpower shortage is then filled by immigration with a transit workforce,were by the Government are then able to call the indigenous workforce lazy scroungers .The price of fuel and travel shouldn't put anyone in this predicament and all politicians should be aware that they may be the next to be looking for work on foot.
Jon Taylor December 20, 2007
My small business is feeling the pinch with diesel now 109.9 by me, I did try using bio diesel until I found out the guy was selling old vegetable oil from KFC and it clogged my engine up.
I have never seen such a lack of empathy in this country, we complain how bad the programmes are on BBC yet merrily go on paying the licence fee, we moan about the rising council tax fee's yet do nothing (except the odd few who get my support) and then the petrol prices, moan moan moan and keep on filling up those fuel tanks! I support the more direct approach of clogging up the system like they do in France, give the people some power back and show mr numpty at number 10 who really holds the power.
David Palmer December 20, 2007
I do do not believe that there is any case for a government benefiting from a windfall tax and therefore vat or duty should now be reduced to the extend that the government published in its revenue budget last year.
While I sympathize with the green view that high prices will change consumption habits, with average vehicle ownership being around three years. it will take time for drivers to move to more efficient vehicles and industry longer, to have the effect of reducing emissions (in fact EU rulings for manufacturers to reduce emissions will have a far greater impact).
In the short term the Government's greed has the effect of increasing regressive taxation (is this a socialist government?!) and unfortunately will doubtless lead them to spend it so when it all bottoms out they will have to raise other taxes because their windfall cannot last for ever. But while it does. it will continue to hurt those the most, that cannot afford it - not to mention increased transport inflation which is simply passed on to the uk consumer in higher prices for food and other products
Good luck to any protest
Peters December 20, 2007
I once read in a motoring mag that millions of gallons of fuel could be saved every year by surfacing the roads with better material but the government insists on using the cheapest material because it saves them money while they get more back in fuel duty. It's all at our expense, that is the problem with taxes like these.
We aren't seeing any benefit from all this extra tax because it's all going to prop up the corrupt regime in Brussels. An extra £7 billion per year was handed over just a few weeks ago.
Elaine December 20, 2007
I'm not convinced about a fuel protest - its not tax which has drastically gone up in recent weeks.
I do however agree that the tax on fuel is too high and that the government could find the money elsewhere. Rather than more tax on alcohol and cigarettes, how about a plastic bag tax? No one likes them and they pollute the environment!
A Concerned Motorist December 20, 2007
I am quite happy with the price of fuel. Don't know what all the fuss is about!!
Posted by Anne Giles, 19th December 2007 7:11pm
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you bloody mad or just stupid
Posted by Kevin Dell, 19th December 2007 7:36pm
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Kevin i totally agree with you!
It's because of people like Anne, who are prepared to pay whatever the price is for petrol/diesel, and who will queue up at the most expensive station in their county - because it's 500 yards closer to their house than the cheaper stations, that the government continue to ignore our requests and protests to reduce the cost of duty on fuel and instead increase it!
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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH - BRITISH PEOPLE ALWAYS JUST SEEM TO LIE DOWN AND TAKE IT FROM THE GOVERNMENT _ WE NEED TO MAKE A STAND NOW AND LET THEM KNOW HOW WE REALLY FEEL ABOUT THIS.
I FULLY SUPPORT ANY LEGAL PROTEST.
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Joe Weiss December 20, 2007
It is more than just fuel costs it is about being over taxed.
Some £5,000 million each year is being taken off the motorist for what? Choked motorways, cut backs on street maintenance budgets coupled with higher public transport fares that discourage any altenative. Contact your Member of Parliament about more of a say on where the money being taken from your pockets goes - Northern Rock would not be my choice!
Chris Taylor December 20, 2007
CHECK OUT COMMENT 1786!!!
QUITE HAPPY WITH THE PRICE OF FUEL?? ARE YOU FUC~@*G CRAZY MAN??
OBVIOUSLY A POMPUS CITY BOY WITH MONEY TO BURN.
YOU MIGHT BE HAPPY TO RECIEVE A FINANCIAL DRY BUMMING OFF THE GOVERMENT BUT THOSE OF US WITH BALLS WILL DO THE FIGHTING. YOU ARE BEING BLOODY ROBBED YOU IDIOT.
Lawrenc Finnigan December 20, 2007
stop being nice and all uk drivers just stop your vehicle for 30 mins once a week until somthing is done
David Melvin December 20, 2007
The best way for this goverment to take notice is to make them suffer with moneytery problems and to do that is for just 1 day say a monday no one buys petrol on the said day this hurts them and then further threats to do it again and again until something is done about the 75% tax we pay on fuel, born free taxed till death
Tony December 20, 2007
A lot of people have to travel large distances to work now instead of working locally as we used to do, because of poor governernment policies (including local governernment) of raising company business rates, high company taxes, extra administration for companies, rising rental values, inflationary policies and a good proportion of all this caused by RISING TAXES etc etc all contributing to companies going out of business.
What choice do we have - we either move house (even tax relief on a mortgage was removed by the government clowns) or we travel to work. The government have caused this situation looking at it from nearly every angle, but they know better than the population - don't they!.
WE NEED A GOVERNMENT THAT KNOWS HOW TO ENCOURAGE COMPANIES TO BE PROFITABLE - NOT BEAT THEM TO DEATH WITH ALL THESE TAXES LIKE THIS GOVERNMENT HAS DONE. AND DO NOT MENTION THEIR OWN WAGE INCREASES WHICH ARE JUST TAKING THE P**** OUT OF THE ORDINARY WORKING MAN.
Tony December 20, 2007
Could post 1788 Geoff Lamb (or anyone really) please tell us what happens to all these TONNES of carbon dioxide that are produced and have supposedly been accumulating for 150 years.
I am not a scientist and cannot understand where it all goes to. It is supposed to be the heaviest gas so I would have thought that it would flood down into the valleys and stay there if there was so much. Some of it must blow around in swirls and then across the countryside but then into valleys again. Plants do absorb some but if the tonnage can be believed why aren't all candles extinguished, people dying from lack of oxygen, cows suffocating in the fields etc etc.
Also how does it get to the upper atmosphere to make the greenhouse effect and so called global warming. It has been said that the government would TAX THE AIR WE BREATHE eventually!!!
How is it explained that BEFORE there were no icecaps, that is, WHEN THE NORTH POLE HAD FORESTS ON IT, there was a period of ice before that, so global warming and cooling happened then. Was that caused by cars or industrialisation!!!! Of COURSE NOT, we are just being taxed to death on someone's good idea as a tax raising method.
Some high powered cars do not use as much petrol as smaller ones sometimes. I had a 2.5 litre Vauxhall Omega that did 32 miles to the gallon but a Ford escort 1.4 that did at best 28 mpg and usually less than this and the engine capacity was just under half the cubic capacity and about a third of the power not to mention after driving that all day I was knackered and started losing my hearing.
Mike French December 19, 2007
When ever the goverment is in a spot of trouble they always take the easy option, Stick more tax on the motorist i;e: PETROL,
If everyone in Great Britain who as a day or two off every week would use one of those days & don't use their cars (just have a restful day home) in my opinion would help our cause.
Try it after all you will also be saving money that day!
Regards, Mike
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