The arrival of £5 a gallon diesel

The differential of now near 10p between petrol and diesel is due to oil company profiteering - the headline petrol price stays down but huge margins are invisibly reaped on diesel, which now forms a substantial fraction of the UK market.

The difference between the two on the wholesale Rotterdam market is around zero - in any case not more than the odd pence.

Why does Ofgen not inquire? Probably because it is not in the government's interest for the official inflation rate to be driven yet higher when its fuel basket understates diesel usage by cars.

the clown Brown brought in an extra tax on diesal in the 90's becauseit gives more miles per gallon. Just a staright tax swipe.

Since when did you ever expect a Scot, who did a phd in the history of the labour party, to be anything other than a robbing ba**ard. Tax and spend.

When he went to opec a few years ago lecturing them to pump more oil so the price would go down they sent him away with a flea in his ear pointing out it was his tax that made diesel dear, not the cost they extracted and sold it for. Who the f did he think hee was even trying to talk to them. Shows the man's delusional qualities.

I agree, I have never payed much attention to rising fuel prices as of late, every day it seems I pass my local garage the price of diesel which I use creeps up and up, I wonder how much it will go before someone does anything I for one agree with the blockades in 2000, and think we need another very soon. I've considered changing to a petrol car again, Alot of people switched to diesel thinking about MPG and savings they would make, it seems Labour caught on to this are now stinging us more. We pay Tax on our earnings, and to get to work we pay even more just to get to work. BRING ON A NEW BLOCKADE!

I can understand supply and demand can result in a higher price for diesel but it does not explain why the difference in price to petrol.
As an example Shell in Spain charges very little difference between diesel and petrol.
If I were cynical would it be because of the large increase in diesel cars over the last 5 years? Clearly these cars are using less fuel in their tanks and therefore less money goes into the tills of the petrol companies, so is it simply a case of clawing back money that would simply be lost. A local garage is charging a differential of 10p per litre for diesel, i.e. 1.07 for petrol and 1.17.9 for diesel.

Somethings needs to be done! The wife and I are even considering emigrating out of the uk due to so much taxation! It stinks, im up for a blockade anyday, Brown needs to be booted out NOW!!!!
Fuel duty is a complete CON so is so called ROAD TAX! BROWN OUT . NOW

in sudbury its 11 pence dearer for diesel than petrol. the goverment dont understand the problem of foreign lorries go down to the M20 see all the foreign lorries then proceed to clacket lane services and watch how many foreign lorries fill up Gordon my son you will be waiting and waiting see my point now Gordon Brown.

3 or maybe even 4 blogs ina row, no comments from ne1!!! evry1 must av agreed wiv me an rushed down 2 NO.10 2 petition Mr Brown, i wud come an join u all but i cant afford the diesel... well i fink its funny, unlike Mr Brown an his croanies.

Hi ther again, peeps or downing st r gona get fed up wiv me stirin it up. A thort went across me mind,. ifu own a boat i.e. TRAWLER u can use red diesel coz ur supplyin food 2 the country, (can use red in any boat as well, dunno y). Builders can use red in construction vehicles and sum of dem dat have number plates go on the road, not 4getin the good ol farmer in his tractor/ combine etc trundlin along the rd from 1 field 2 anuvr so y not the good ol lorries (only yanks drive trucks) who without this country wud STOP! Think 4a mo! the seaman in ther SEA TRAWLERS catch the food, the farmer wiv his FARM VEHICLES grows the food, the builders in ther CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES who make the buildins to process the food, so y shudnt the drivers in ther LORRIES who transport the food be able to use red diesel as well, theirs food 4 thort, (sory bout the pun). Dus it sho im obviously a lorry driver & if brains wer run on diesel wud i b able 2 claim a rebate? Then id have mor 2 put in me car!

This is to the people that run this site. (anyone else who agrees please comment). I think that your putting the comments (sorry blogs) on your site the wrong way round! Surely the newest the blogs should go to the top of the list so everyone can easily & quickly read the latest blogs, rather than have to click through 3079 blogs, or 42 pages as it is at the moment. when the gofors or assistants if one wants me to be politically correct get the job of checking the latest outcrys of the public, i.e. us. they want to be able to go to the first page. sorry to be a pain, but had to point this out after spending ten minutes (ok slight exageration) trying to find if my blog had been posted. Thanks if you do change it round, and i'll remember you all when i make Prime minister, can you imagine it? Prime Minister Peter the Pain. P.S. see i can type properly really, so ner!

Lets start wiva funny 2 cheer u all up, these fuel prices hav got us 2b like the americans! "coz we're in a state" ok larf L8r. I read above "that the UK got a lot of its Diesel from refineries from the Gulf of Mexico" Hmmm! wen i wasa schoolkid (oh sorry) student! i remember the joke about "wot cums outa the ground swearing, " CRUDE OIL!" well unless sum borin brite spark can tell me different, it all starts as crude oil an is then turned in2 the different fuels we use by different processes, DIESEL being 1, but ifu refine it sum mor which costs MOR £££ it becums PETROL. So as i c it, all a refinery has 2 do when makin PETROL, is stop when it gets 2 the DIESEL part, syphon out a few tanker loads & then carry on 2 the petrol, so ne refinery will do, simple!!! (like me) Ther4 never mind wot them idiots (who promise everthin until they get in2 government) say, the fact remains that DIESEL MUST COST LESS THAN PETROL. I rest my case Mr Minister. (& ne BOFFINS who wanna get technical bout refinin petrol & diesel, just go away cozu can afford the prices) P.S. Im sory bout the spelin, but it helps me 2 typ kwika, i'm no typist & an only good wiv 2 fingers on 1 or 2 hands at any1 time, again, plz blame this on the government, as it jus so happens that the 1 or 2 fingers that i use 4 typin r the same as i use wen directin my points at the government. I hope i'v made at least sum ofu fink about it an hada larf at the same time, hope iv made me point sumwer 1 way or the other, personally i prefer the other!!! P.P.S. if ne ovu out there tell me bout sex n travel 4get it, coz 1. i cant afford 2 waste diesel & 2. i aint gonna get dun 4 dangerous driving 4 no1.....

we now have diesel at 119p litre in Galashiels .....what a joke(being polite)

We seem to be making excuses for the Government here. Ultimately, the Government may not be held responsible for 'supply and demand' but this doesn't explain why diesel is so much cheaper than petrol across the Channel.

When the tax on petrol was bought up to that for diesel – note, bought up – we expected, quite reasonably, the price to be the same at the pump. As it is, I understand, cheaper to produce, we should actually see the return of diesel being cheaper than petrol. We can only change things at the polls but the taxes, Council Tax included, will never go down. It’s too easy to collect.

Thanks once again for the excellent forum and, of course, your PetrolPrice emails.


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We now locally have 116.9 per litre - thats down right rude! Yet unleaded is only 107.9 what the heck is going on? Diesel is the cheap product - why do we idoits in the UK put up with this - Brown is laughing all the way to the bank. They should cut the duty now and halt inflation - but will they - no chance........

Just been out the UK for 4 months and couldn't believe 106.9 for a litre of petrol, Its time for the truckers to protest again. In the states they are complaining that they might hit the four dollar gallon!

Ian note your comment from above!
has Dr who landed in your area or can you teletransport what you require via magic. As im aware it trucks of all sizes that deliver goods, food building material etc [including your daily paper - mail]
Dont suppose you know what it cost for HGV/ LGV Road Tax!

Ian please point me in the direction of an electric HGV truck & I will gladly exchange my HGV for one of these.

Krgds
Eck

Strike & blockades I agree with , but the only way forward is support from the General Public. When I took part in the last blockade, there were car drivers giving us the fingers etc & telling us to pull over. The only way this would work is not to block the refineries , but to block the Supermarket Warehouses - no food & supplies getting to the general public!! They will soon join our cause, as they benefit also from any de-crease.

Eck

the increas is stupid i agree that that oil is runing out but its not doing us any good if i drive when im older im may not be able to afford all of this eg to drive. only the well off people will.
prices have already increaced and many familys can not afford diesel or petrol for that matter.

tanka

Enough of the chat and banter and set a date for the strike and road blockades.
Actions speak louder than words as proved before, April wouldbe agood month just after the budget.

I work in a petrol filling station and I agree that prices are getting out of hand. Increasingly more and more people are relying on credit cards to pay for tanks of fuel.
The only people profiting are the petrol companies and the banks/Government.

People talk about £5 a gallon, but if you put it on your credit card then surely it is going to cost more in interest rates?

Something IS needed and if it means standing outside dispensing £10 of fuel per customer until prices drop, then so be it!

Has it ever occurred to any of you that are moaning about how far you have to drive and how much it costs you in petrol that you can actually do something about it? Move closer to where you work or change your job. There's no excuse for driving accross half the country to get to work. I don't care how much petrol costs because I don't use much. I ahve made a choice to not travel far for my work. Stop bitching and realise that travelling isn't some kind of god-given right and realise it's quite a privelidge to have the luxury of driving a car.
To those that moan on behalf of the haulage industry, get your facts right. Freight should be on the rails, where it belongs, and only taken for short trips at the final destination in trucks. If we took most of the heavy trucks off the road we'd have far less congestion, far less hold-ups (tell me a week goes by when you haven't heard a traffic reported saying "trafic is slow because of an overturned lorry", or "there's been an accident involving a lorry", or "carriageways are closed by to a lorry shedding its load"), less damage to the roads (have you ever seen the rutts they make in the slow lane?!?!?) that they do _not_ pay for, and consequentially less road works.
Fuel should get a lot more expensive to stop people driving so much. We're wrecking the environment as it is, and high fuel prices are a valuable tool for stopping people driving.
Grow up and deal with it.

Doesn't matter if your a driver or a non driver, your still going to have to cough up the costs of fuel increases and increases in tax on fuel.

Cost of food deliveries to shops, deliveries to homes and service companies will pass on any hike in fuel costs to customers, so that would be practically everyone in the UK that will be affected.

I agree they get you at anyway they can the government, they won't take action with increases in transport fares and they don't care how much they charge the driver. As a commuter and driver i'm punished in all ways when travelling.

I have just been to my local store (Tesco) to find that in 8 days they have put the cost of fuel from 107.9 to 110.9 then I asked them why the hike in price they said it was the local pricing for the area and government charges are mainly to blame. when are we going to do something about it, my car has gone from £54 to £65 all in a period of 9 months at this rate in 1 year it will be £100 to fill lets get a grip shall we the government doesn't need the money that bad can they if they just go around private sectors handing out fines (14million) on non completion of rail tracks line.

Whatever happened to the original boast of starting up a discount card for PetrolPrices subscribers? Was it simply a ploy to launch some useful but lucrative websites? Is it no longer a viable proposition - or was it a dead duck from the outset?
Bring on the electric cars. I am buying a bicycle.

Fuel prices at the pumps have reached a record high, according to latest figures from the AA.

Average petrol prices have now reached an all-time high of 104.85p a litre compared with just 87.27p a litre a year ago.

Diesel has soared to a record average price of 110.31p a litre, compared with 91.09p a litre a year ago.
In gallon terms, this means diesel has now passed the £5 mark, the AA said.

The company added that it was costing £8.79 more to fill a typical 50-litre fuel tank than it was a year ago. An average car owner is now spending £18.84 more per month on petrol.

AA president Edmund King said: "Record fuel prices will bring record levels of misery to many millions of drivers.

"The £5 gallon must surely concentrate minds at the Treasury and should be a warning to the Chancellor that his proposed increase of 2p per litre should not go ahead in the Budget next month.

"The Chancellor must accept that global oil prices are soaring out of control so he should not add fuel to the fire by hiking up the tax. Rural motorists, the disabled and car-dependent communities are suffering enough.

"In one week, the UK price of petrol has shot up a penny and diesel even more. At the same time, market commentators have reported a gasoline glut in the US, enabling them to sell cut-price fuel to Nigeria.

"Drivers in the UK are asking why their car fuel prices are soaring while petrol is being offered at a discount elsewhere."

why oh why dont we ALL do something about this. come on lets all make a stand this has to stop NOW. if we dont do nothing about it brown will do what he likes

We need another fuel protest this is just getting silly, the average price of fuel will soon go way above £1.10 how can they justify that.

Please if anyone is going to organise some kind of protest please let me know.

Its so hard to live these days, i find myself having to cut down on things because i need ot use my car. Earning 24k a year a few years ago i would have been quite happy.. not anymore the cost of taxing my car and the cost of fuel is killing me yet because of my job I have to use my car. The government know this and know people will pay no matter what.

Maybe if we stood up for ourselves now and then insead of just moaning about it we would get a cut in prices..


the french know where its at.

You, sorry, not just you, we, that is correct, we, are being screwed daily by the people we put forward to look after our interests.
Did you smile at the news of the Speaker of the House- now there is a job that requires honesty and impartiality, hah! who will be asked about lining his pockets......and he will resign in favour of someone else who will be cleverer at it. And all those MEPs, also busy..... not at the job we put them there for. They would make Don Corleone blush.

i filled my diesel car up at tesco on 20.02. it was 107.9 a litre. i filled up today(24th), its gone up to 108.9, 1p per litre in 4 days !!!! what the heck going on? whats the excuse this time? shareholder profits going down? why are we putting up with this? there must be some sort of price fixing among retailers because prices are more or less the same wherever you go. theres no sign of competition as there used to be, when garages in the same town could have differences of two or three pence per litre, and isnt it about time this farcical .9 of a litre was dropped? anyway why are metric measures used in england when we havent gone metric? oh, silly me,because if gallons were being used we would realise how much we were being ripped off. 108.9 litre doesnt look as bad as £5 per gallon does it? come on people anyone got any ideas how to stop it?

All these comments are very interesting about fuel prices NOW reaching £5 a gallon. In the north of Scotland (where cars are needed) they have been over £5 a gallon for years. Its only now that the price has risen in the south that so much fuss is being made about this price.

I agree that a message must be sent to the government but it should have been sent years ago. Soon only the rich and MP's will be able to run a car.

If this is a green tax to make users have smaller cars, how come you never see MP's getting out of small cars? (ie. lead by example)

Another thing when the price of fuel goes up (as the tax increases each year), this cost is added on to the cost of all the goods that are transported, since most of the goods have VAT added, the government gets even more tax income. This from the government's point of view is great, but not so great for everyone else.

It wouldn't be as bad if the taxes were spent on the things that the government said they were for. If the amount of money taken in "Road Fund" was spent on roads then you would think fore example there would be at least 1 good road running the whole of the country and if the "Green Taxes" were spent on the development of green research then we would be the cleanest country in the world by now.

It would be interesting to see if anything could be done in the long term but since every government has seen the taxation of the car as an earner, I can't see the tax stopping or coming down. Even as has been sugested we all moved over to other fuels due the the current cost, the government would start to tax them heavily.

As a car owner you don't stand a chance.

As usual, there is a glitch in your thinking. Oil is 'mined' from the same hole in the ground, or under the water, for all of the oil companies. Having refined it,they ' sell it' or lend it or whatever, to each other to meet the requirements of the day. So that, blackballing one oil company, in favour of another, however attractive that sounds, would accomplish nothing. To show what I mean, you only need to go to one of the fuel distribution points and see tankers of diverse hues queue at the same outlets, and then, sanctimoniously go to their branded fuel stations for delivery. Or for that matter, those superstore tankers getting filled up any old where. So, because I have personally witnessed that of which I speak, it follows that my beliefs in the probity, or honesty, if you would prefer, of one oil company over the other, is fairly moot. They are not the people at fault. They are merely taking advantage of the situation. The people to blame are those we have put in power, sanctimonious invertebrates all.

Deisel "was" cheaper than petrol once, but then the Government noticed that drivers were choosing the cheaper option, so "zoomed" in on another cash grabbing opportunity. Like VAT on more and more "essentials". We used to have to pay to have coloured bathrooms once, but now people are avoiding them, the Government cash in on white bathrooms. £7.5 billion was grabbed from our pension funds because BROWN decided they were in surplus. But has he stopped "grabbing" now that they are all in deficit? Most certainly not!!! Be interesting to see what they are eyeing up next.

See what you think and pass it on if you agree with it

We are hitting £106.9 a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying £1.10 a ltr. So what can we do about it.

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't
continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT,whoever
thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take a aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place
not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not
purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.


If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's
really simple to do!!

Now, don't wimp out at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the
message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and
pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... ...

THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt,
all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8days!!! Acting together we can make a difference . If this makes
sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso

It is an unfortunate truth that complaining about prices will get us nowhere. Look at the huge protests we had in 2000. Prices have contnued to rise ever since and are showing no signs of falling. Since I started to drive the price of petrol at my local garage has risen by 43p, but has my houlr wage risen by 43p???? NO! It is no lie that we are slowly being priced out of our cars, and even if new environmentally friendly fuels are found we will simply be taxed to the hills on that.

I work 4 hours a day and its 20miles to work and back, soon i will not be able to afford to work due to the rise in petrol. I can only work part time due to having kids and being single, but i enjoy going to work and would like to continue, may be the goverment wont more people out of work for some reason!!!

Saving me is the last thing I am concerned about. At the advanced state of affairs I find myself in, it is just a matter of dragging things along. I have even asked my doc for the little black pill that will end it all. He'll not give it of course, but there's hoping that the revolution will come in time. But, those following me may have a little respite from those rocketing prices before the Brown/darling policies catch up with them.
When you find the walls closing in round you, the way to go is to give up. If you had money in that fateful bank, and you saw those worthies trying to pull votes by offering those punters a couple of bob in the pound, well, buying the North East votes will cost you and me thousands of pounds, so worrying about the cost of fuel.....well, waste of time, would you not say?

I really wouldn't expect bio-diesel to save you. Consider there's a reason food prices are skyrocketing.

Details of places and availability please Ruth! e.g where do you get your recycled oil from? and what do you pay for it!!!

Biodiesel is a reat alternative, and we should be lobbying hard for tax breaks for this - especially if you can source biodiesel which is made from recycled vegetable oil. This is 100% recycled, and so should have a huge tax cut if the tax is about green issues, and not making money!
I have run my 04 Passat on 100% with no difference in performance, although I am running at an approximate 50/50 mix in the winter months.
Did you know as well, that if you buy your biodiesel in containers it counts as heating fuel.... you pay less tax, and you are allowed 2,500l as a personal allowance for this as fuel by the tax man.

So now we approach the £5 diesel gallon. I notice from the Home Page price charts that there is a fairly wide spread of price for diesel starting at 102.9 .

Can anyone tell us where the 102.9 litre is being sold ? It would be worth a short diversion if it's close to a route I'm taking !

Just what sort of diesel car only gives 40 mpg. Any 1/2 way decent diesel should give at least 50mpg and a really decent one about 60mpg.

I dont know what everyones problem is the percentage increase in the last 10 years is less than the previous 10 years. Sounds good to me.

If you haven’t heard the term ‘Peak Oil’; brace yourself as you’ll be hearing it a lot more in the years to come. It’s been a whispered term for many years, much like “global warming” was back in the 60’s.

In 1956, geophysicist Dr. M. King Hubbert predicted that oil production in the USA would reach its peak around 1970 and then go into a state of decline. He also predicted that global oil production would peak around the late 90’s/early 21st century. He plotted the increase, peak and decrease of oil production on a graph; and his theory is popularly known as Hubbert’s Peak.

Dr Hubbert also flagged with the world the issue not only of declining oil production, but the increasing cost associated in extracting what oil remained after the “low hanging fruit” had been picked.

There is no doubt that the cost of oil production in recent times has been huge - not only in the exploration and production itself in financial terms; but also in terms of environmental damage caused. Added to that has been the huge military expense and associated human suffering caused through wars that have been pushed on the public by their governments as being issues of national safety rather than their true motivation - control of oil reserves. The war in Iraq is a classic example of that.

Dr Hubbert was ridiculed by many when he released his research; but his predictions appear to have come true. USA oil production did indeed go into rapid decline around 1971.

The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), a cartel of countries whose members sit on around two-thirds of the world’s oil reserves have been in a state of public denial about peak oil theory for many years; but that seems to have changed recently also.

In the November/December 2006 issue of OPEC’s publication; “OPEC Bulletin”, on page 62 is an article by Dr Shokri Ghanem, Chairman of the People?s Committee, the National Oil Corporation (NOC) of Libya; discussing not the “if” of peak oil occurring; but “when” and he acknowledges that we may already be in that timeframe.

Fact: we are consuming more oil globally and the trend will continue

Fact: it is not a renewable resource in relation to our consumption levels

Fact: countries go to war over control of oil reserves

Fact: oil consumption has a negative impact on the environment

Fact: gas at the pump continues to, generally speaking, increase in price

Fact: many plastics and other trappings of the modern world are made from oil

Fact: the world is running out of easily sourced oil; i.e. production using current technology has peaked, and what oil is left will cost more to pull out of the ground using methods most likely to be even more unfriendly to the environment.

Paints a rather grim picture for our oil addicted society doesn’t it? If we’re willing to invade a country now for oil, how much more aggressive will we be when supply really gets tight?

How does food get to your table? Do you grow it in your yard, or is it trucked in to your supermarket? How do you collect it; do you walk to the supermarket or drive? How do you get to work?

How many affordable alternative energy vehicles are now on the market?

When the Iraq war and other geo-political issues pushed the price of oil to record levels; people stopped buying SUV’s. Within a couple of weeks of a drop in prices; they went back to buying them again. It just goes to show how little we learn. We had a taste of what really expensive gas was like, yet as soon as the pressure was backed off a little; we went straight back to our previous oil-greedy ways.

We won’t learn, oil will have to run out or become so horribly expensive that only few can use it to any degree. What will it cost? How much will it impact on the cost of other items? How many more people will have to die and how much more will our environment suffer while we squeeze out the last viable drop of oil that the planet has to offer?

These are important issues to think about - don’t rely on governments to provide the answers to a world without oil as they’ve all been in denial for way too long. Yes, there are renewable/alternative energy programs in place; but given the major role that oil plays in our lives; permeating just about every aspect; whether these new, cleaner technologies can be rolled out broadly before we hit the real crunch is something I’m not very confident of.

The time is now to start thinking about and making changes to the way you live so your life is not so oil-centered. Remember that a lack of oil extends far beyond just not being able to drive your car - so many other products, services and industries are based on oil.

N rudd it would probably be ignored if it was not effective but any serious threat of disruption would be dealt with. Dont forget its very easy now for the Police to take details they have this camera/computer tech stuff that instantly tells them if a vehicle is licensed, insured and who the owner is and they also have the power to seize vehicles and have them crushed !

I don't know if anyone will ever read this but surely it is still legal to hold a protest by slowing the movement of traffic on britians roads???
as the truckers have done in the past on our motorways.
If this is seen as an affective form of demonstraition why can't we all decend on the M25 for one day make the capital inaccessable surely this would get some attention from the goverment and make them realise that the people still have a great deal of power in their hands-I suppose GB will be grinning again at the thought of all the tax paid on fuel to get us there.
i agree something must be done but what and where and how???

Hey, Bambino, that's three sets of people you are maligning right there. Who are they, and what did they do to you? Unless you are talking about the members of the House, Ignorants to the left, Racists to the right and the Bigots down at the end, then I would agree with you. Just for the hell of it.

I think our government is so selfish in the way they tax our fuel to extremes, they seem to forget the older generation who have fought wars for them and this is the way they repay us, cutting down our social pleasure absolute disgusting.

Ignorant racist bigots

as an x h g v driver i now how much fuel they use the government needs to reduce duty if they cant for every body they need to for transport or we shall not be able to eat yours jim

i think everyone should avoid bp & shell & esso garages and stick to useing tescos sainsburys and murco and other small garages as this will force the big companies to reduce fuel prices as there profits plummit,which inturn puts us in control,the proble with this is getting enough people to do this

Mac
You are correct its one law for MPs and another for us. I guess we get what we deserve from either party. C Brown I am sure you are correct its difficult to know when and if they would use the laws but they are available and yes everyone needs to take care that some silly remark used in jest cannot be interpreted by a court as incitement. I dont know if anyone has been snatched from the street yet but Peak Oil has not been heard from for a day or two. ( sorry peakoil just a silly joke). Anyway folks I still say you would do better to boycott holidays to the USA Bush is the real culprit.