27.09.07 We can't take another 2p now!

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Back in March 2007 Gordon Brown, then chancellor, announced that he would be adding 2p extra duty to fuel and as an additional result collecting 0.35p extra VAT on every litre sold at the pumps.

In March, October seemed like a sensible time to implement it, after all on the 1st of October 2006 prices for unleaded had fallen from a summer high of 99.5p right down to 87.4p.

You may think I am a cynic, but I think he had calculated this date as about the least controversial date to hit the motorists with yet more tax based on last years prices.

2007 turned out to be different.

Should the government do a U turn and scrap the extra 2.35p tax on fuel because of unexpectedly high oil prices already hitting motorists hard?

October 2007 hasn't quite turned out to be everything that he hoped for. In fact this year, instead of falling from summer highs, the average price of fuel in the UK has stayed steady at around 95p and soon looks set to rise even further with the price of oil reaching record highs of around 80 dollars.

So as it has turned out October 2007 might be the worst time to hit us motorists, and at PetrolPrices.com we want to let the government know how we feel. We have prepared a vote on the right hand side and I hope you will join me in voting for a U-turn on this proposed hike in fuel duty.

With so many PetrolPrices.com users, hopefully the government will have no choice but to sit up and take notice.

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Go for the protest BIG TIME! Cause huge disruption and even more embarrasment to Brown. It is a disgrace that petrol should be at such unprecedented price levels - it never comes down! Food and moat other essentials are going through the roof because of the knock-on effects. Our government will prosecute any business found to be in a cartel with competitors yet we and the world stand by while the biggest cartel on the planet is tollerated - OPEC. This organisation should be outlawed internationally and petrol sold on the free market.

Posted by Steve Rogers, 11th December 2007 11:22pm

I totally support the protest action against high fuel price. If the USA & UK had not invaded a country that posed no threat to us we would not have been in this financial dilemma, therefore the sooner both countries get out of the countries they have invaded the sooner we can get the oil price going down and start buying cheap oil from Venezuela

Posted by Tesh Rai, 12th December 2007 12:22am

About time this should have been done ages ago. Diesel at my nearest garage in west sussex is £112.9 its a complete rip off. I also have to pay the congestion charge which is another rip off as I work nights in london. I am now begining to struggle on my basic pay as I get no overtime ect to pay for these two things that I am thinking of packing my job in and goiing on the dole.

Posted by Michael Gorman, 12th December 2007 3:46am

To create and fund Government policies on the back of extra tax-revenue from rising prices of crude-oil seems a bit ostrich-like. If taxpayers have no choice but to tighten their belts, then neither should Government

UK businesses depend heavily upon road transport for their viability, particularly in getting workforces to the workplace. I can understand the view that says the man in the street can still afford to pay for increased fuel prices, but that view isn't necessarily shared in those parts of the country whose economies are based on the minimum wage. Neither should we forget that this is a double edged sword.............manufacturers will absorb higher fuel costs by increasing the prices of the goods on the shopshelf.

It's time again to let the people speak, and test the current opinion-public .............organise at least one national campaign, where motorists are asked not to buy fuel for at least 2 consecutive days, on nominated days.

Posted by Richard Starling, 12th December 2007 9:51am

a protest is long overdue. it is not only fuel that is soaring, bread is up, cat/dog food is still rising etc.etc. italy has just come to a stand still over their fuel prices and that is exactly the kind of action france would take. go italy and come on britain-----wake up!

Posted by Karen Ley, 12th December 2007 10:10am

the goverment have conditioned the publics mind over fuel prices well before the £1.00 barrier was broke,as a result when it was actually raised above £1.00 the general motorist was worried not about fuel duty,but about the disastrous effects the economy was having on the average homeowner,,ie: mortage prices and the ever looming credit crunch etc etc,which co-incidentally has been orchestrated by the very same person who we now find running the country,non other than GORDON BROWN,dont you think its about time people slowed down just a little,take 1 step back,clear your mind and have a good look at exactly how this goverment is fleecing the motorist,as a criminal in this country you are much better off than a law abiding citizen,as a law abiding citizen you are a very soft target for goverment to take your hard earned cash any way they feel is possible....as the roads become more gridlocked dont be at all suprised to see the road toll brigade spouting off in the news and media about how we need to charge motorists to reduce congestion,you see their ace up their sleeve is the fact that they actually love congestion on roads as it then gives them the perfect pre-text to start rolling out another tax on the LAW ABIDING CITIZEN,forget green tax which has already been implemented in many various shapes and forms,the toll tax is next,and lets not forget what tax it was that finally got rid of thatcher,yes youve guessed,the poll tax,sounds the same and hopefully it will have the same effect second time round,,every single motorist should gridlock the whole country for 1 week,stay off work and gridlock the economy,i know its sounds outrageous but unless collectively we all do something to stop GORDON and his cronies then they will simply carry on regardless,blair was the same and so it goes on,,STAND UP AND BE COUNTED

Posted by Maurice Keane, 12th December 2007 11:32am

Why when the £-$ exchange rate was at $1.6 were we told that we had to pay higher prices for fuel as oil was priced in $'s per barrell and now thw £ is at $2.05 to the £ we are still paying extra. Somewhere along the line my maths have gone t**s up.
Or is rip off Gordon at it again?

Posted by Michael Lewis, 12th December 2007 3:49pm

I don't agree with the government rising the price of fuel again, i have three children, one of whom is serverly disabled, and i need to use the car to be able to get my other two children to school and home. This time last year i was spending about £35 on a full tank of diesel now it's £45, if nothing gets done about it soon the price of fuel with be astronomical.

Posted by Tracey, 12th December 2007 4:49pm

the price of petrol is a joke right now am sick fed up of the goverment makein even more money out of us.they get plenty already.sumthing has to be done about this as the prices will only just keep going up&up&up.this is really takein a big dent out of my wallet as i have 2 cars.1 that runs on unleaded and 1 taht runs on super unleaded& the price of super unleaded is even more £1.06 per litre!iI will join in any demo or vote to help get the price of petrol back to what is a decent price cos its just crazy at the moment

Posted by Scott, 12th December 2007 5:35pm

Fossil fuels are being consumed at an unsustainable rate which is causing an accelerated rate of global warming that will have catastrophic consequences. Unless we radically reduce our consumption we will pass a tipping point, beyond which we will no longer be able to reverse or mitigate the effects of anthropogenically caused global warming. We are all responsible. Every day I travel and see single occupancy cars with drivers getting frustrated in long queues behind empty buses. We can all use buses more. Yes we may have to get up a little earlier and walk a little further, but that isn't beyond many of us. It certainly doesn't require governments to induce us to do that. So I am thankful that the price of fuel is rising, and yes it's costing me more. So be it. I have some sympathy with people whose livelhihood depends on car usage, and those living in remote rural areas, or the old and handicapped. In such worthy cases I think the government ought to provide a rebate on the tax that they pay on fuel. For the rest of us, quit moaning, get out of your car and do your bit for the planet.

Posted by Guy Milligan, 12th December 2007 7:09pm

amanda lightfoot is a muppet (message below)! who is she kidding? no one will stop driving, because every time they hike up prices when it comes to driving, they put up prices of all transport! and how much does that woman make each year for anyone to say that everyone can afford it!

a severe protest is now required, although difficult due to government putting convenient terror laws in place to stop us! so they set their rules and stop us from having our say by changing laws. i am pretty sure the nazis did that!

Posted by Ian Day, 12th December 2007 7:14pm

Why is each successive Government of this great country of ours so keen to tax the motor vehicle off the road ? This small Island, with such a rapidly expanding population due to several factors, cannot sustain such negative policies. Surely it is only a fool who fears the onset of paralisis, yet continues to invent more causes for it ?

Posted by Brian Gillis, 12th December 2007 7:27pm

Every week for the past few week when I have gone to get diesel it has gone up one pence, this is just not on, it used to be that deisel was cheaper than petrol, I am ready for changing my car but I think I will be going back to petrol from now on, I cannot use the bus so rely on my car for going out, but soon like lots of others I will be housebound........

Posted by Carole Bromehead, 13th December 2007 12:10am

I have no doubt this Government will harp on about we all need to make more use of Public transport, for possibly the majority of us that means Buses.I was going to attempt this method for getting to work. what do I find service cancelled through our village walk for a mile and you can get one.Sorry have said for years we are becoming a third world country.

Posted by Dave Mcgrath, 13th December 2007 9:06am

Buses! This I morning had a hand operation so I can't drive but I can't get the three miles to get my dressings changed at the doctors or get to a shop to buy food because there aren't any buses. In Norfolk where wages are low and buses are few and expensive you have no option but to pay the ever increasing petrol prices. I am a self employed chiropodist and no way could I visit my patients by bus carrying all my equipment if there were the buses. Most of my patients are pensioners so I cannot pass on the cost. Cars here are not a luxury but a necessity to survive. Being self employed there is no sick pay either for all the taxes the we pay.

Posted by Sue Garcia, 13th December 2007 12:06pm

we have come to far in society for any of these money making scheme to stop motorists getting on the roads, people will always try and find the money. the government want to stop people getting themselves into debt yet seem to do there best to cost us more. there are many areas the government could save money they are just unwilling to do so because the issues may seem contoversial or of an inconvenience to themselves. below £1 is reasonable and fairly acceptable and they will still be making money, that money should then be used on better, more affordable and more reliable public transport!!
the fact is the country is in a state and every government do nothing but harm, if they want to raise money for the NHS they should lower some of their ridiculous (and may i say unreasonably high) wages. they were going to fine people for having security lights for energy purposes yet won't do anything about the street lamps.... the fact is i could go on forever about the incompetences of the people who control our country but it will get us nowhere as they do not listen. they won't back down as they see it a sign of weakness, they won't change because our best interests are not at the root of these changes.
i dispair and hope that the positive actions of organisations such as this can do something to save our once great nation.

Posted by Amy Williams, 13th December 2007 2:04pm

sorry but just to add, as a previous person has mentioned why can't the government run a scheme whereby cars are altered to be able to run off alternative measures such as vegatable oil or animal waste, yes the smell would be bad but wouldn't it be better on the environment, peoples pockets and stop the need for invading other countries?? they should instigate it and pay towards it but i do feel most people would be willing to have such a thing done and pay the rest!?

Posted by Amy Williams, 13th December 2007 2:11pm

I think the british public deserve all they get with fuel prices, they just sit back on their backsides and do nothing but winge, were were they at the last protest? backing up the truckers? NO they were winging, and what will they do this time? nothing but say weres my peterol? Thats why the government puts the tax up and will continue to do so. I think gordon brown should take 40p a liter off for the truckers (who do the protests)and pass that on to the moterest.I wonder if that would make us protest? like boycot the petrol stations, i dont think so, we diserve all we get, the selfish brits.

Posted by Guy Mckeown, 13th December 2007 8:43pm

I'm absolutely friggin pissed off with this government and their attemp at Stealth. They have ripped off the motorist since coming to power over ten years ago and continue to do so to this day. WHY ARE THE BRITISH PUBLIC SO LAZY when it comes to showing they're disgust at the amount of taxes paid?
Fuel is made up of almost entirely of tax, as are cigarettes but that another story. This government just keep sitting pretty and saying THANK YOU BRITISH PUBLIC, MUGS we'll keep creaming you off.

I think its about time we had some serious action, or are we going to continue being mugs.

I remember a spokeperson for the government complaining, during the last tankers protest, that people protesting about the petrol prices were out of order and were holding senior citizens to ransom by their demands for lower fuel prices. No doubt the smokers that stop smoking are being selfish by depriving the NHS of money by giving up!

There is one question I would love to ask this bunch of cowboys! The UK is/was/has been a major producer and exporter of oil. That being the case, how come we are the most expensive for fuel in Europe?
We've been pulling the stuff out of the ground for over 30 years now and we have absolutely nothing to show for it, other than the highest fuel prices in Europe.
All this garbbish about the fuel prices being there to help the environment and stuff is rubbish.


Posted by Stewart Allen, 13th December 2007 10:39pm

The country has gone mental no smoking, moaning about the public drinking to much and petrol prices rising by the minute. The first chance i get im off out of it britain is going to the dogs!

Posted by Andrew Bamford, 13th December 2007 11:52pm

I'm glad that people are standing against this exploitation. I ask 'what else can be done to make the people in power really hear and adhere to the voice of the people. To long have we sat back and listened to propagander and politics, we are fed with soap opera stories and confused with plot after plot, we've been convinced that it is fair that they take such high tax.. I say no, turn of the media off that is confusing you, so no to this day light robery it is wrong......!!!

Posted by Daniel, 14th December 2007 12:15am

I have read on the news that the bank of England has put 50 Billion Pounds, to help stave of the credit crises in the World, under Mr. Brown instructions. There is also the 25 Billion Pounds loan to the Northern Rock bank.
Ordinary people in the UK are feeling the pinch, with the increase in fuel prices, which inturn has forced up the price of food etc., but the Government will not reduce the the tax on the fuel. I think this is a conspiracy to drive this country into the European Union, where by, the EU will be able to rule the UK.
Only Sixteen Weeks, and a couple of Days, to the next Tax Increase on the Fuel.

Posted by Jack Foster., 14th December 2007 11:32am

The government and the fuel companies alike are blackmailing motorists in the U.K. with their persistent hike in the cost of fuel. Manufacturers produce alternative fuel cars (e.g. Volvo BiFuel CNG) which the fuel companies and the government fail to supply fuel adequate for. The government is blackmailing everybody as they are aware they can use the climate change banner to hide behind and get away from answering to the countless sceptics amongst us questionning the point of charging us greater than £1.00 per litre.

Good luck to the protests......why couldn't this have been done sooner?...


Posted by Karan Jain, 14th December 2007 3:16pm

BLOCK THE ROADS . . . N O W ! ! !
BLOCK THEM ALL
SHUT THE COUNTRY DOWN

Posted by Ben Smith, 14th December 2007 11:20pm

I am thrilled to see so many comments here, it's about time people realised that as a collective we have huge influence..for too long there has been a policy in this country of devide and conquer. I am tired of hearing comments like 'what can I do I am only one person' Lets get it straight mass protest (about everything that is corrupt and unjust) is what we need!

Posted by Georgina Mckinnon, 15th December 2007 6:35am

I wonder hoe much more effective a protest like this would be, if it happened in the run-up to a General election, which, this over taxing government seem to be running away from.

Posted by Derek Spence., 16th December 2007 11:13pm

Mr Darling

I am already subsidising my company as you never put the mileage rates up very quickly and I can't keep affording this bottomless pit either.

Posted by Anthony Oliver, 19th December 2007 10:57am

This Government has increased the amount of money to the Northern Rock bank, to 57 Billion Pounds, and has given 10 Billion pounds to the World bank.
Mr. Brown states that the Government cannot afford to pay the police the money that is owed to them from September, as this will cause inflation.
The rise in the cost of the tax on fuel, has increased the price of food etc., but according to this Government, has not increased inflation.
Many people write that the public should start demonstrations, and protest against the tax imposed on the fuel. The problem is that, under the Labour Government, no group of people can, because of the Police Reform Act, and all can be arrested if they do.
This Government is nothing other than a Dictatorship, and there should be a vote of no confidence in the Parliament. All people should contact their local MP, and ask for this to happen.
This country has gone to war, to rid countries of Dictatorships.





Posted by Jack Foster., 19th December 2007 11:36am

9329. We now have a problem in how do we rid our country of its dictators. Things are going to get far worse in this country over the coming years if we let this dictatorship regime continue.

Posted by C Evans, 22nd December 2007 8:28am

Slightly off topic, but can someone please explain to me why MPs should get a 10% pay rise?

Posted by John, 23rd December 2007 11:02pm

The Government is just making money and we Work all day and ther is no increase in people Wages. How can pay for mortgage, rising council tax and other rising prices. To add on top High Rising Prices On PETROL.
This is affecting very badly in our life. Poor is geting poorer.

The UK goverment is so ..... I Do do not have a word to Describe them. Petrol prices are higher then Third World country and has always been.

If you cannot afford Wars, then why go for. Stop the immigration people. Take quick actions on immigration laws.

The people who are Sitting on the Chair and making the decision on The PETROL Prices are earning a VERY HIGH WAGE every Month and We do not even earn Half of their WAGE. Not jealous at all. Please do not take wrong meaning from the above words. But this is True.

Is this fare on us to Impose such High Tax on PETROL. When u do not have a Good Infratructure For Public Transport In the North West.
If we go to work and the Public Transport is not as good as LONDON.

We have to use our cars to travel to WORK or else it will take over 2 HOURS
1)using Bus form home to Train Station
2)Then again Bus from ther to work
3)Then walk.

This only for going work The same goes for going back.

If you are Driving by car to the Station You will Pay for the Car Park Again which is Expensive and Not Secure.

It does not Matter Nort west or London Prices for Petrol should be reduced for better Living.

Posted by Sajid, 28th December 2007 10:05pm

Happy New Year, to everyone.

Now the bad news, that train fares will rise Today, by 4.8%, on some routes, and by 9% on others. The tax on fuel will rise again in Three months time, and at this rate many people will not be able to afford to go to work.
On Your Bike, would be a good slogan, for this Government.

Posted by Jack Foster., 1st January 2008 10:55am

I have been reading these comments now for the last month, and each person has the same view, ACTION, DO SOMETHING NOW, but what is anybody doing? I put in an entry back along with an email address, asking people to get in touch if they want to do something, guess what, not one email. How do we collectively get together and do something. I am more than willing to take a stance, but one mother of two, living in rural england is not going to be heard.
COME ON BRITAIN, LETS DO SOMETHING BEFORE WE ARE ALL PRISIONERS IN OUR OWN HOME!
lsmeath@aol.com

Posted by Liana, 4th January 2008 1:15pm

More bad news, is that the price of fuel for transport, went up again yesterday, and that it will rise again in couple of weeks time, because it went up before the annoucement of a barrel of oil had reached $100.
Npower has increased the price of electricity by 12.7%, and gas by 17.2%, from tomorrow. This country will be bankrupt, by the end of this year, if this Government, does nothing about the price increases.
The Unions should call a General strike, across all of the UK, but I doubt that they will.

Posted by Jack Foster., 4th January 2008 11:26pm

I came upon this interesting website by chance and it's full of the usual "let's blame the government" lark for rising petrol prices. When are these people going to grow up and smell the pollution?

At the moment the prices of a cup of crude oil is cheaper than a cup of coffee (the second most traded commodity in the world). Coffee is a renewable resource and will stay that way as long as weather conditions allow the annual planting and harvesting. (that was not the case this year as weather related disasters cut production by 25/30 per cent worldwide. Oil is a "finite" resource and is running out by the day as we drive to the "end of the Earth."

Already demand for oil outstrips supply 4 to 1. When the "market" starts to reflect that reality, the price of fossil fuels will rise sharply- some say up to 300 dollars a barrel in the next decade. Already as you fill your SUV, you would think think it was the world population counter you were watching as you squeezed the lever at the pump.

Oil depletion is a "geological reality" that is unavoidable going forward. It will sort out all this cribbing and moaning and infantile blame game that only clouds the real issues. Sure all governments see fuel as a "cash cow" and are "in denial" as well as impotent to find more benign and sustainable transport alternatives. It is presently overseeing a motor and heavy goods vehicle transport dependent system that is running on "dead credit" and going up a cul de sac.

The United Nations launched its Millennium Ecosystem Assessment Report in 2006. The report, compiled by 1,360 scientists from 95 countries, confirmed that more ecological destruction has taken place in the last 50 years than throughout the rest of human history combined.

This report reads like the account of some "plague species" that is attacking the very basis of life itself and not the work of benign creatures with an ordered mind and a created conscience. It emphasises that current industrialism is systematically destroying the living fabric of the planet and that we, as individuals, are complicit in it by our crass, unhealthy and repugnant polluting lifestyles.

At the moment in the dead end oil dependent transport system we have, motor gasoline accounts for 45.7 per cent of total oil production. Diesel fuel and home heating accounts for 22.5 per cent of total production. With nearly 70 per cent of all oil output going mainly to transport, we don't need another Einstein to tell us what the catastrophic results of oil depletion will be.
Yet there seems to be very little movement in political circles to acknowledge this "Armageddon" type reality that is inevitable and approaching fast. There seems to be no political will to shift debates, plans, research, policy and management toward a longer-term perspective?

If we leave the future of this planet to the scheming of "clean shaven mechanics"(Engineers), technocratic whiz kids and designer politicians, then we will expedite the onset of "cultural suicide", and reach our evolutionary dead end faster than Richard Hammond and Jeremy Clarkson can take us.

Posted by John Fitzgerald, 5th January 2008 1:38pm

it seems nothing is happening to the fuel prices when is the next protest, the cost keeps soaring and we buy in dollars and its cheaper we get better value to the pound so why are we still paying these ridiculosly prices its time to cut the tax this goverment is taxing us to the hilt, I will never vote for this labour goverment again.... if I could leave this country I would there is nothing here to stay for the tax is the demise stop sending the billions in overseas aid to goverments that use it for their own uses and not the people it is sent for lets get our own house in order first hospitals, housing, homless, poverty, and just looking after our own, CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME, maybe it is time for a brand new political party that is for the people......

Posted by Ann Fryer, 7th January 2008 9:45am

It was with disbelive that I listened to the news last night. Gordon Brown, our non-elected prime minister, is stating that the public sector should only be receiving a 1.9% payrise this year, to help break the backbone of inflation (not sure how that works, as not politically minded), and that ministers should follow suit and not ask for bigger than a 2.8% payrise. I am sorry but by my equations that still equates to a 0.9% higher payrise than the backbone of Britain, and for what? Again it is the hard working people of this country that get penalised.

Posted by Liana, 7th January 2008 2:42pm

When the Government increases the Tax on fuel for Transport, this then increases every commodity in the country, including the Council Tax etc., which in turn, increases the Inflation rate. The Tax on fuel is to be Increased again in April, and the Council Tax, according to the Government, will be increased by 5% this year. Carry on at this rate, and nobody will be able to afford to go to work.
The Trade Unions should call an all out strike, across the UK, because this country is slipping into an abyss, but I doubt that they will.
A large group of people, can no longer to have a mass protest, because of the Police Reform Act, introduced after the mass protest in the year 2000.
I think that the reason, for the way this Government is acting over Tax Increases, is to try and drag this country deeper into the European Union, because this country will have no choice, but to have the EU Government take this country over.
Virgin Atlantic, have agreed a salary rise for the cabin crew, of 4.8% over Two years, and I think that Mr. Brown will not be to pleased with this.

Posted by Jack Foster., 8th January 2008 11:34am

Another rise in the cost of fuel at my local filling station yesterday, and only a couple of days since the last increase. This Government has to reduced the tax on the fuel, but I doubt that this will happen, as the Government needs every penny, that it can lay its hands on.

Posted by Jack Foster., 9th January 2008 11:05am

I am sick of how the goverment keep putting the petrol prices up, and we have no choice but to pay it. I rely on my car to get to and from work and it is not possible for me to use puplic transport, like many others i'm sure. It now cost me double to get to and from work and my wages have not gone up to cover this, so I am now worst off! As the cost of living goes up each week, petrol is part of this and it has now gone beyond a joke, and it must by stopped and bought down to a reasonable rate asap!!!!!!! Over a pound is not reasonable it is just ridiculous to think that they can keep putting it up and we are not going to do anything against it! Britian as a whole now needs to make a stand!

Posted by Victoria Hughes, 11th January 2008 11:07am

what i want to know is with diesel at nearly £1.10 /litre which approxiamates to £5.20/gallon how much extra revenue is he collecting from his original calculalion? my beleif is that he is colelcting nearly £20p more per litre due to the hike in prices and should consider a reduction in the duty to alleviate the burden on the motorist /tax payer.

Posted by John Anderson, 11th January 2008 1:38pm

My partner and i work hard paying our taxes to a government that dosent care about the people the are supposed to be looking out for, how can we show them that the poor job they are doing is ripping our country apart, we were one of the strongest in the world, now we are one of the biggest jokes.

Posted by Sean Denny, 12th January 2008 11:09am

More bad news for the motorists, if you over stay your parking time, or if you park your vechcile where you should'nt, because the parking fines are set to rise on the 31st. March, up by 20% for serious breaches.
Councils outside London, will be able issue fines by post using CCTV evidence.

Posted by Jack Foster., 12th January 2008 10:13pm

It's about time everyone stood up to the government petrol prices are extortionate and have been for some years now.

What we need to do is boycott the main company's like Esso and BP which I think are the most expensive. And use the other company's that are generally a few pence cheaper anyway.

The big boys like Esso and BP have to be forced into bringing prices down then the rest will have to follow suite to compete and so on.

PPL should forward this to all their email contacts.

*******************************************************

See what you think and pass it on if you agree with it

We are hitting 106.9 p a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying £1.10 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain

day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil

companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't

continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of >an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT,whoever
thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take
a ggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place
not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we
consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the
price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not
purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting
ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.


If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's
really simple to do!!

Now, don't wimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to
at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at
least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the
message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached
over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and
pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... ..

THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and
not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us
sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt,
all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the
next 8days!!! Acting together we can make a difference If this makes
sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE
RANGE

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your
petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. i.e.
boycott BP and Esso






Posted by Nicholas Deeney, 13th January 2008 10:01am

Where I live in a Four mile radius, the price of petrol, for Unlead is as follows, £1.059 at BP , £1.049 at Tesco, £1.039 at Esso. Years ago, the price set by an independent filling station, was by checking all the prices in a Ten mile radius, and then setting the price One pence cheaper, that way it increased the number of customers.
The Government was partly to blame, by increasing the Tax on Fuel, last October, and what will people do, when the Tax is set rise again in April?
Mr. Brown requires that wage increases, be kept at 1.9%, because higher than this, will cause inflation to rise. Increasing the Tax on Fuel, increases Inflation.
This country is going down hill very fast, and we need an election sooner than later.






Posted by Jack Foster., 14th January 2008 12:13pm

As I smoke drive a car and also on occasion drink,it seems that this government see it as their job to make me as poor as posible.WHY? I voted for them, but that will have been for the last time.In future it is the Monster Raving Loony party for me,they would at least make it cheaper for me to continue with my bad habits.

Posted by Peter Amoss, 14th January 2008 3:07pm

9345 : I am with you on this, I will send this to everyone I know. At least I will feel that I am doing something instead of just moaning about the muppets that run this country.

EVERYONE SHOULD READ COMMENT 9345 AND LETS GET STARTED WITH SOME ACTION.

I will support you daily, to get people blogging on this site, involved.

Posted by Liana Smeath, 14th January 2008 3:43pm

Reply to 9347. The reason to make you poor, is so that you cannot afford to smoke, or drink, and to change your car for a bicycle, so that you will become healthy, which in due course will allow you to work harder, and that will then save the NHS money, which in turn saves this Government money.
By using a bicycle, you will save this planet from CO2 emissions, and you will not be causing road congestion, thus helping this Government to save more money, by not building more roads.
I hope this answers your question. I'm alright Jack, springs to mind.

Posted by Jack Foster., 14th January 2008 7:44pm

I sent out my e-mails, as suggested by 9348, and this was once comment I got back:

Lets look at this another way, the GOVERNMENT TAKES the largest slice of your petrol Pound about 70% or so in TAXES, BLAME THE GOVERNMENT.
The oil price is high because of world wide demand and growing demands from China India, Russia, etc. You can do nothing, oil is getting scarcer if you think this is high you aint seen nothing yet.
I am sure any boycott of BP / Esso will mean nothing, who do you think refines for Tesco etc. If Shell has too much demand they will buy from BP
The only way is if everyone in the world stopped buying fuel. Impossible
I will not be fowarding the original.



I FEEL I SHOULD RESPOND TO HIM, BUT NOT SURE HOW, ANY IDEAS?!?!

Posted by Liana Smeath, 15th January 2008 9:38am

The nub of the matter is tax, the auctual cost of fuel is not that expensive without the tax.

If enough people get together and boycott the pumps (even as suggested above), for short periods and rotate throghout the country it will soon bite.

The people involved would have to be people who do not depend on their cars completely.

I notice a lot of sniping in some of the blogs. Well to those people who advocate us all giving up our cars, smoking etc, (I am a non smoker, and rarely drink) think of this: If everybody gave up their cars and stopped smoking drinking etc, taxes would go through the roof.

The taxes paid in by these people is not spent on roads and infrastructure, the vast majority of this money goes into the general tax fund and is spent on social services etc.

In my normal line of work, I tend to work unsocial hours and a reasonable distance from home. Buses and trains are not normally available to get me to work on time. So from the reasoning of some of the sniping comments above, I should pack in work, sit back and live off the state.

Posted by Eddiey Conroy, 16th January 2008 12:44pm

Another rise in the cost of Unlead petrol today, up by One Pence at my local filling station.

Posted by Jack Foster., 16th January 2008 10:37pm

If these petrol price hikes are going to reduce car use,and therefore
reduce global warming.When can we expect the goverment etc to trade in
there big cars for 1 litre models. Set the example Mr Brown and perhaps
the rest of the country will follow. Or just stop ripping us off.I for one are
fed up, sick, sorry ,and tired Of this goverment.

Posted by Keith Marshall, 19th January 2008 3:03pm

Has anyone noticed that certain groups of people, have had pay rises announced by this Government, of between 2.3% and 2.5%, though the Prime Minister as stated public pay rises should only be 1.9%.
The reason is that they all have had their union support, and in veiw of this, there needs to be a Union for Motorist, who will back a cut in the tax on the fuel. Anyone willing to start a Union?

Posted by Jack Foster., 19th January 2008 11:16pm

gd fr u

Posted by Jessica Randell, 23rd January 2008 12:05pm

If only the English nation wasn,t so passive, does any one realy believe the Frensh would put up with the ascalating cost of fuel, I dont think so !

Its time for action, and then and only then will the road user see any result to bring England in line with other EU contries.

Come on News papers get behind it !!

Posted by Philip Hall, 23rd January 2008 11:09pm

Well said Jack, there is a need for some sort of unity and leadership and this should come from the Motoring Organisations, who seem to be pretty silent on this matter.

Posted by Eddiey Conroy, 24th January 2008 8:38am

Heard today that Shell have approximate profits for the last year of £13.7billion!!!! Where has it all gone wrong?

Nobody in England is going to do anything, because we are all so passive (comment 9356). We just lie down and take it. I have read comments on here for months, and still the prices hike up and still nobody does anything. I am about ready to leave 'rip of britain', and find sunnier climates elsewhere, I have just had it.

I have been enthused enough to want to do something, any ideas passed around I have mailed onto everyone in my address book, but there is nothing concrete going on. Do we just have to admit that as a nation we are going to do nothing, and eventually become prisoners in our own home. It is a very very very very sad day, and not a good one to be British.

Posted by Liana Smeath, 31st January 2008 11:40am

test

Posted by C Evans, 9th February 2008 8:21am

we pay nothing but taxes in this country

Posted by Tony Eustace, 13th February 2008 7:58pm

Rip off britain and the people just accept it and dont stand up to this evil government. Worst country in europe.

Posted by C Evans, 15th February 2008 8:26am

My parents are currently on a very nice cruise. Lucky them.
They recently visited Oman where my dad wrote on a postcard, they get four litres of petrol for 50p.
Imagine that, four litres for 50p.
Not necessarily a country I would want to live in, but then neither is Britain!!

Posted by Liana Smeath, 15th February 2008 1:49pm

9345, Nicholas Deeney's simple solution will not work, even if the all the people of Britain stopped buying petrol for a month. It wouldn't work because the petrol saved would be snapped up with alacrity somewhere else in the world.

The problem that bloggers here have to face is that there is now, or will be in the very near future, more demand than there is supply. It is simply not possible geologically to get the oil out of the ground quick enough. Also, soon the oil will start to become more scarce because we are now using 9 barrels of oil for every new one that we find (BP CEO). The rate of oil discovery peaked in the 1960s and we have been using more oil than we have been finding since the early 1980s. So, contrary to what Nicholas said, in this situation the supplier really does control the market. The only way we can reduce the cost to ourselves is by using less.

If the government reduces the taxation on fuel it will either have to reduce its spending, e.g. by cutting jobs, or it will have to put up taxes somewhere else. If it reduces taxes on fuel, some people will use more which will mean greater demand in a situation of constrained supply. That will put the price back up again, only this time the oil company and oil producing country will make the profit.

Liana, even if you do move abroad your saving won't last long because the whole world will soon be in the same boat. Oil producing countries will be able to subsidise their consumption for a while but even they will have to increase prices eventually. Britain may seem to be a grotty place to live in but "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence", until you get to the other side of the fence. We have our problems but other countries have their's.

If you want the government to reduce the taxes in general, don't vote Labour or Liberal because they always like to spend your money for you. They know that they know best when it comes to spending your money. Always have, always will. And if you vote for the Monster Raving Loony Party you are a raving loony yourself because it will just help Labour or the Liberals to get in and waste even more of your money for you, just when you need to spend it yourself.

Posted by Ken Neal, 22nd February 2008 4:23am

I have just found out the Prices of Fuel around here ts12 and it is Hitting £1.14 so at that price the public will not be able to afford to use there cars and the bus service as it is around hear you willm not be able to get to work
And the fuel price in Austalia is 70p so what is this govenment think they are doing with this country when the price of oil is the same here as it is elsewhere but then they have to give themselves some Perks dont they

Posted by William.horner@btinternet.com, 24th February 2008 7:37pm

if the euro was brought in to GB ,the gouverment would have no option but to bring the fuel dow to the same level as the rest of europe.

Posted by Hamish Keenan, 26th February 2008 4:50pm

The price of fuel is on the rise again, and it is only a few weeks away, at the begining of April, when the tax increase on fuel comes into effect.

Posted by Jack Foster., 4th March 2008 10:25pm

9365, Hamish Keenan, is talking a load of rubbish. Recent fuel prices in Europe varied from 67 euros in Greece to 104 in the Netherlands. All bringing the euro into the UK would do is lock us into the fascist dictatorship that is the EU. If the EU is so brilliant why do our politicians have to lie to us and sneak the "not the constitution" in by the back door.

I have just put £99.67 worth of diesel into the Discovery that I use for work. It's no good moaning about it, I'll just have to make the fuel go further by driving more carefully and, above all, using the vehicle less. I can't change the vehicle for something more economic because, unlike many 4WD owners, I use it off road and I regularly tow a 3.5 tonne GVW trailer.

Posted by Ken Neal, 5th March 2008 4:38am

I really don't see a need to bring the price of fuel up again. as it is now £103 a litre and the date is march the 5th 2008. I very much agree that we should all boycott the pumps but not once a week but twice, also do what we did once before by bringing England to a grounding halt in and around LONDON.. Also if the was a lot more decent cycle paths in England, put along side the A roads then a lot of people would consider using their bikes, as I know I would. I mean what's the green part of the A46 for just to hold up a lamppost's and speed camera's.. if it were made of concrete we could all cycle along side them..
Also put up our wages so we can afford to LIVE....

Posted by Monica Jones, 5th March 2008 9:18am

RIP OFF BRITAIN. what a hell of a place . This evil, dictatorship government are taking us all for mugs and they know it. Why the hell do the british people allow this instead of making a stand for our rights and freedom. People have been brainwashed by their spin and propaganda

Posted by C Evans, 5th March 2008 5:56pm

petrol up another 2p in the next couple of weeks, car tax going up to over £1000.... yet the car only amounts to less than 5% of the UK's CO2 emissions.... the green argument doesn't add up.

Time we vote off the weakest link.

Posted by Cue, 11th March 2008 3:40pm

HOW MUCH MOPRE OF THESE PETROL PRICE HIKES ARE WE GOING TO PUT UP WITH???

BEFORE WE KNOW IT JOBS WILL BE LOST AS THE COST OF TRAVEL TO WORK WILL BE UNBEARABLE

Posted by Karen Williams, 11th March 2008 4:42pm

we would not mind paying the extra duty if we got the perks you mps get. nod nod,

Posted by Mr R Bailey, 14th March 2008 2:49pm

Well diesel is now at £1.15.9 a litre in essex, how long will it be until people just give up?, i drive an average of 1200 miles a month and this costs about £220.
Its money thats just not there any more and the prospect of further rises will be the icing on the cake, so i'll stop working, get rid of the car so i wont be able to travel for work, then the government can house me in a nice bed and breakfast, once the house is re-possessed of course, and there we are our very own financial crisis because the working people of the UK have been taxed to destruction, it really is something special when you have to work out how much you will spend on fuel before you take the children to buy new clothes.

Posted by J R Regan, 25th March 2008 12:14pm

why cant there be another fuel strike so the prices can come down again this country is just ran on tax thats its thats gordon brown for you hes a wxxker

Posted by James, 26th March 2008 6:20pm

if fuel prices keep rising so will food and drink prices i think the goverment should think what they are doing to there country

Posted by Jason Oliver, 10th April 2008 4:11pm

Fuel for transport is going up again, £1.089 Litre for Unlead, and £1.169 Litre for Super Unlead.
Back to the push bike, if the price continues to rise.

Posted by Jack Foster., 12th April 2008 4:28pm
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