Would you opt for biodiesel?

377 Comments | Add Comment | Blog entry posted 24th August, 2006

Biodiesel is a type of fuel created from plants (e.g. rapeseed, soybean and sunflower) that can be used in modified diesel car engines instead of diesel. Benefits include:

It is cheap to produce.
It is cheaper to buy than diesel.
It can be grown anywhere in the world.
It is more environmentally friendly as it produces low or no CO2 emissions.
Biodiesel production could have a positive effect on our ailing agricultural industry.

Even sunflower oil off a supermarket shelf can be used as a biodiesel. Some diesel engines (do not try this without very thorough research!) are believed to be able to run on biodiesel without any modification.

So why do car manufacturers not produce cars which run on biodiesel? The fuel has been here for decades if not centuries! Yet we continue to rely on oil from underground which is environmentally damaging and costs an arm and a leg for UK motorists.

If biodiesel is so amazing, then why have governments not supported it more? Why have car manufacturers not made biodiesel compatible engines? Why is it not readily available on the forecourts?

Biodiesel has become a really hot topic. The consumer feels hugely let down by corporations with vested interests and ineffective government backing for these cleaner fuels.

{poll=7}We need to know more…

Do you currently use biodiesel in your vehicle?
Are you making great savings on your fuel costs?
Do you refine your own biodiesel from waste vegetable oil?

Replies to Would you opt for biodiesel?

Jayni Anderton September 6, 2011

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I have a Citroen Picasso 53 reg with HD engine..Has anyone tried using biodiesel in one & what were the results? Does anything have to be altered? & is it safe for the engine parts, seals etc....?

Richard Turner September 2, 2011

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I make my own Biodiesel from old cooking oil, I have used 100% Biodeisel in my 2007 Panda multijet for 5 months and it is fine and have not made any engine ajustments, I am now looking into additives to prevent waxing in the winter, if anyone has any tips as to which product and what quantities I wouild like to hear from you. My stepson has a Volkswagen Transporter Van and it warns not to use Biodiesel in it can anyone explain why.

Tabby June 17, 2011

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hi run my chrysler voyager turbo diesel and saxo 1.5 diesel also my vw t4 transporter 2.4 diesel all on bio for 1 full year now they all run great my mate makes bio as long as the bio is made right filtered washed and glycerin removed your cars will run great the reason people are getting problems with rubber seals etc going is becouse the glycerin is not removed corectly or mybe the bio diesel isnt made right, putting straight veg oil or used oil that has just been filtered will eventualy damage the engine

Dermot Coleman April 19, 2011

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Hi,
this is my first time using this site,so you must bear with me.I ahve a 2004 opel combo CDTI diesel van and i want to convert it to use veg oil.can anybody help in advising me what to do next
best regards
dermot

Dermot Coleman April 19, 2011

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Hi,
this is my first time using this site,so you must bear with me.I ahve a 2004 opel combo CDTI diesel van and i want to convert it to use veg oil.can anybody help in advising me what to do next
best regards
dermot

John Black March 22, 2011

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there are far too many outside bodies influencing government policy the power of the pound certainly does and can corrupt clear and fair policy making by government

K Campbell March 16, 2011

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were can i buy it in worcestershire can you let me no a.s.a.p thankyou

Keith Richards February 24, 2011

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24-2-2011 What a difference between Tesco petrol stations. Tesco Newport 128.9 for diesel Tesco Pontypridd 134.9 for exactly the same product how can this be justified. We here in the uk are having the urine extracted from us in a big way. Would the French put up with this or the Yanks not on your life. Soon it will be only the likes of Cameron Osbourn and cronies will be able to afford to drive. We are turning into a third world country, where by the way fuel is cheaper. Sorry about that I was only going to say about the difference in prices at Tesco.

D.e.pugh February 9, 2011

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Bought a 2005 KIA Sorrento, 2.5L car last April. I used bio fuel 50/50 for a few weeks then as often as possible. Car started to cut out on hills. After extended repairs I spent about 1800 pounds top get it back. New fuel tank, new sender, new fuel filter, reboot engine management system, one new fuel injector and workshop hours all had to be paid for. The garage weren't sure about the impact of bio fuel on the tank. I was told by someone who had worked in the States that ethanol reacts with the liner of some fuel tanks. The fuel was full of black sludge when they drained it.
SO - I won't use it again. Best check with your dealers or the manufacturers before you adopt what might be a false or even a fools' economy.

Chris February 1, 2011

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Been making Bio for a couple of years.
Had Seat Alhambra 1.9TDI 1999 model. In 2008 it had done 150K miles so thought I would try running it on new cooking oil, didnt start very well but would run on it. Then ran it on 100% home made bio for approx 20K miles - ran like a dream. I bought a Saab '93 (2006) 1.9 it doesnt like bio diesel, unfortunately didnt start well and after replacing a fuel pump (which I think was faulty when I bought the vehicle I havnt tried bio in it again - so it'll have to go !!) should have bought a BMW 320D instead.

My son has a Vectra 2 litre TDI (b type year 2001) absolutely loves bio diesel at 100% homebrew. Mixes in winter with regular as it gets a bit thick and dont want trouble but could add coldflow instead.

One important factor - only trust bio that passes the 27/3 test. (27 ml of methanol to 3 ml of oil shake it up and if any residue settles in the bottom there are some process fluids left in, very little of this is acceptable - but a special tube is available to test for this) Also I ran my bio though a drying wash tower to ensure all water removed. Then a 1 micron filtre - result beautiful bio!

Buying my daughter a polo pre 2005 diesel 1.4 TDI. Made for bio !

Ken Wilson December 26, 2010

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Hi all, i've been making my own biodiesel for about 2 and a half years now. i run 1998 ford mondeo 1.8 TD with 210k. Car runs fine on it, the only problem i get is the seal on the injector pump input shaft fails every 9 months. i can fix this myself, £15 for a new seal and a days work putting it in.
i have noticed from the comments on this site that some people are using new cooking oil, i may be wrong but i think the goverments tax exemption only applies to biodiesel, not cooking oil. New or used oil has to be processed with potassium/caustic soda & methanol to be classed as biodiesel.

Steve Hartland November 9, 2010

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I have been told that the Mercedes 2.7 CRD Diesel in my 02' plate Grand Cherokee would run very well on biodiesel and it does its only been a week now but I'm saving £16 per refuel. Just have to make sure on cold mornings I let the glow plugs do their job.

Used to frequently put to use fuel/injector cleaners through prior to trying biodiesel - so should I worry about changing my fuel filters still ?

Bobby Nahal October 21, 2010

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Hi all
Ive spent much of my evening reading through this whole forum its probably the best one I have seen relating to the use of bio-diesel.

I have a 2003 GT TDI 1.9 and have not found anyone here who has the same car and used biodiesel. I have recently found of a supplier who sells this for 99p from a pump 6 miles from me in Cradley Heath in the West Midlands.
However I am not brave enough to risk using something that in the long term will damage my car so I would like to know if anyone has used it on a similar model.

I have read that the new Golfs or VW cars with DPF(diesel particle filters) will not run so well on biodiesel but these are usually models produced after 2004.

It seems there were a few more in my area that have now closed.

One thing that does sound interesting is making it myself or forming a collective to do so but since diesel owners own different types of cars it would be very hard for anyone to be certain about using it, especially owners of brand new diesels.

One thing for sure is the goverment DO NOT want people using biodiesel or being able to produce it so easily, imagine the money they would lose. You would certainly be reading more about budget cuts if they lost out on taxing for fuel

R G October 17, 2010

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Hi, Change fuel filter again and if that's not the problem check your thank fuel pump...it may be cloged up a little. cheers

Rjw October 5, 2010

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As above it is totally legal to make or use bio fuel up to 2500 litres but the government will now put duty the same as you pay for Diesel 59.18p per lt for everything over. But if its for personal use then they wont ever really know. As for using it straight in your car/van 90% of cars should be fine as long as you change all your filters when using but if you live in cold areas below minus degrease then the cheapest way is to have a small second fuel tank that has derv in to just start the engine then switch tanks when the oil has heated. this stops the oil from solidifying

Mervyn Frayne October 4, 2010

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Contrary to popular opinion, it is quite legal to make and use your own bio diesel without paying any duty providing that the amount is limited to (I believe something like 2500 litres per annum) The accurate information is available from Customs and Excise, but they do not like discussing it so bully them.

Kez Dudley September 17, 2010

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The reason is simple. The goverment get somuch tax! Bio tax don't make bp money( or shud I say billions every month) think about it these oil companys run the goverments of the world what they say goes and that's it " final". So why would goverment encourage it.!!!!!! We need a body of people to kick this .!and I'm up for it .anyone else " in" or is it just me. I make my own bio very good quality too. So if anyone else is interested in creating a living forum one that meets ( swap ideas and spead the word and advertise the fact that all cars diesel with a viton seal upgrade can run on bio ) I don't what else to say .

Regards Kez

David Howell August 27, 2010

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does any one run a hdi piccasso on 100% bio for more than a year and have you had any problem and any one ran mondeo mark 3 tdci with or with out probs i have run a picasso for a year and garage say the rubbers on fuel pump have turned to mush

Ross Mcfarlane August 25, 2010

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hi all i have a citroen xantia 1.9td 1998 mrk 2 facelift and had it for 3 and half yrs and to be truthfull its a wicked car trouble free, but iv,e been reading on here about this bio-fuel and its supposed to be the bees knees of fuel.so can i run my car on it or the svo u can get in shops,but the diesel i use at the mo is bp ultimate and i no its a bit costly but im getting 50plus to the gallon.but would it be better if i changed to bio. thnks if u can help me.

Douglas,albert ,priestley August 7, 2010

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I bought a machine and make my own biodiesel,I use oil from my relations cafe. The end product is perfect for land rovers it is like warter when it is done.I have been running my cars on it and have had no trouble. My biodiesel costs me about 30 p a ltr.

Ken Richards June 20, 2010

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I drive a Kuga and have been thinking about using Bio Diesel, however, I have not found any filling stations in Liverpool. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
I await your replies with eager anticipation

Brian Timmins June 2, 2010

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A bit late I know (about a year ! ) hut, in reply to 326, a blocked fuel filter an expensive fix???????? Get yourself the right spanner and a strap wrench, the filters are about £6-£7 ............yep you must have rip off garages near you it's a 5 minute job mate.

Emma King May 3, 2010

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My understand is that the costs (financially and to the environment) for converting the rape seed oil, etc, into bio-diesel would far out weight the current cost of Petrol / Diesel. I have been told from a local farmer that the process of processing the bio-diesel creates a vast amount of C02 emissions, ect, in the environment and it would therefore be more harmfull to use this as a sustainable source of energy.

Christopher Lyons April 20, 2010

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i run my 1.9 diesel vw polo on sunflower oil..with no problems much cheaper then the rip of prise of diesel fuel

Scott Charrington April 15, 2010

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I was using Biodiesel almost exclusively in my Skoda Fabia for over 2 years with no extra wear and tear on the car, in fact I was getting increased millage on biodiesel, about another 10%. Alas, all the garages I used stop selling BioDiesel, and the nearest i know of is a 40 mile round trip away. I'd love to know of Petrol Stations in the Belfast and Greater Belfast area that still sell bioDiesel. Anything thing that helps the enviornment and puts extra money in my pocket is a good thing in my book.

Incidentally, VW guarentee that all their Diesel cars built since 1999 can run on bio fuel with out modification (VW, Skoda, Seat, Audi etc.)

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